Heads Up: Today's McClellan Press Briefing in 1 hour (12:30 Eastern)

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

"Watch the Press Briefing LIVE with White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan. Today's Press Briefing is scheduled to begin at 12:30pm."

Watch it live on the White House Web Site: http://www.whitehouse.gov/



:grouphug:

[TayTay]

1. Thanks

This should be another one for the 'Comedy Classics' channel.

[wtmusic]

2. *salivates*

proof that I am desceneded from Pavlovian dogs

[Moochy]

3. Will Scotty prove the existence Spontaneous Human Combustion?

Just saying, he's melting down, but at some point there may be a flashover.. (watching too much CSI reruns I guess !)

[whistle]

11. Agreed, McClellan is no Nietzsche superman, that's for sure....

....but who in the Bush Administration does resemble such a superman?

<snip>
Nietzsche's Superman
"that which must overcome itself again and again"*
by Anna Knowles

Faster than a speeding bullet! More powerful than a locomotive! Able to leap tall buildings in a single bound! Yes, it is Superman, but Nietzsche's Superman is not battling for truth, justice and the American way. Rather, Nietzsche's Superman (which literally translated from the original German ubermensch is Overman) is a human who has battled modern values and overcome the flaws of humanity. Nietzsche's philosophy has been associated with everything from socialism and fascism to Marilyn Manson.

Superman, according to Nietzsche has reached a state of being where he is no longer affected by "pity, suffering, tolerance of the weak, the power of the soul over the body, the belief in an afterlife, the corruption of modern values (Nietzsche's Overman: Blueprint for the Antichrist Superstar)." Superman is constantly changing and in a state of rebirth and growth. He determines what is good and what is evil, not allowing religion or society to determine these things for him. The Superman finds his happiness in this way. He uses a reason that is independent of the modern values of society or religion. He determines his own values. This creation of his own values gives him joy, and in order for the Superman to cope with a changing world, the Superman must constantly change. This constant state of change is a constant source of joy, leaving little or no room for suffering.

The Superman does not believe in an afterlife or the power of the soul over the body because he does not believe in religion and has no proof of an afterlife or a God. Therefore, he makes the most out of this life, not depending on a reward in Heaven or a punishment in Hell for what he has done on Earth. The Superman does not pity or tolerate the weak. He feels that human compassion is the greatest weakness of all because it allows the weak to restrict the growth of the strong.

In 'Thus Spake Zarathustra', Nietzsche, through Zarathustra, says "I teach you the overman. Man is something that shall be overcome . What have you done to overcome him? All beings so far have created something beyond themselves; and do you want to be the ebb of this great flood and even go back to the beasts rather than overcome man? What is the ape to man? A laughingstock or a painful embarrassment. And man shall be just that for the overman: a laughingstock or a painful embarrassment... (Towards the Ubermensch, also Course Reading: Overman)"

<more>
<link> http://personal.ecu.edu/mccartyr/great/projects/Knowles.htm

Ask KKKarl Rove if any of his actions are accountable to a Higher Power such as God and I will assure you that he would scoff at such an idea and would say with total conviction that God would approve of any action that he, Karl Rove, feels appropriate to take for the purpose which he, Karl Rove, believes he serves. For Karl Rove his actions are neither good nor evil, but by Rove's judgment alone, all are necessary. That is the Nietzsche superman.

[Moochy]

12. Uber!!

I know that in this context superman doesnt mean the guy with the big S on his chest, but, maybe a more porcine supervillain might be more apropos for Rove? just saying... :shrug: :)

[whistle]

13. In practical application Nietzsche's Superman = Super-villain

...all that separates them is what society or state which they serve says is good verses evil. In our case theocratic principles prevail as the higher good and any real or perceived challenge to these theocratic principles are considered evil and intolerable.

[Moochy]

16. Theocratic front

Their front is theocratic, but it's a put on, to quote the Who.


Behind an eminence front
Eminence front - it's a put on
Come on join the party
Dress to
Come on join the party
Dress to
Come on join the party
Dress to
Come on join the party
Dress to kill
Dress yourself, dressed to kill.

[whistle]

4. Main issue will be: "...so that we can get to the bottom of this"

...Take any Scott McClellan press conference and replay what his responses have been and that will pretty much sum up what he'll have to say today. For all we know, the WH may be using a life-size projected holograph image of McClellan at these press conferences.:hide: :yoiks:

[earthboundmisfit]

5. From cube rat: Yesterday's play-by-play was AWESOME - today too PLEASE?

Thanx again to all those who kept us updated yesterday - next best thing to being there! PLEASE - lots & lots of us hungry cube rats would love the same great play-by-play for today's show! Thanks again - Y'ALL ROCK!

[Moochy]

7. TiVo vs BFEE

Never have Tivo boxes across the country held so many press conferences.
:) du's WH transcriber corps will be out in force, I'm sure ! :hi:

Mine holds the last two right now.

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

9. Yep, I'm going to do a play-by-play, and I hope many others join me

:toast:

[CottonBear]

6. Ongoing, ongoing, ongoing, ongoing... BRAWK!

:popcorn: ;) :popcorn: ;) :popcorn: ;) :popcorn: ;)

[Norquist Nemesis]

8. Can't wait to hear him say...

"I won't comment on an on-going investigation from this podium."

Q: Yes, Scott. But are you going to tell the American people whether you or anyone from the White House is conducting behind the scenes operations to surrogates regarding defending Karl Rove while making Joe Wilson's credibility and charging nepotism in the CIA? Are you or anyone else in the White House coordinating talking points away from "the podium?"

[naturalselection]

10. Goody!

Can't wait. Thanks for the update!:woohoo:

[ticapnews]

14. Over/under on how many times he says "investigation"

I count 54 in yesterday's briefing. I'll take the over.

Which brings me to my latest idea:

The Scott McClellan Drinking Game!

Everytime Scotty says, 'investigation' take a sip.
Everytime Scotty says, 'ongoing investigation' take two sips.
Everytime Scotty says, 'I've already answered that,' finish your glass.
Everytime Scotty says, 'criminal' chug a beer.
Everytime Scotty calls a reporter a Dick down a six pack.
When Scotty has to resign in shame and/or is fired for incompetence and/or is frog-marched out of the White House for his part in covering up an act of treason, go to your local bar, put your mouth under the tap and open 'er up. Or just down a keg.

Feel free to add to this...

[KelleyKramer]

23. ""Everytime Scotty says, 'criminal' chug a beer.""

Sheesh, you need to change that one.. my fridge wont hold that many brews (much less my stomach).

Besides, we would all end up in a 12 step program if we did that regularly.

Heh heh.

[ticapnews]

30. He only said it twice yesterday...

He made the mistake of saying it repeatedly on Monday, and the reporters are saying it again and again.

It's like on The West Wing when Danny scolds CJ for being the first person to use "subpoena." Scotty made a mistake by using the phrase and now the reporters are repeating it back to him.

[Scout1071]

15. Thank you so much. I was just wondering what time the PC was

going to be today.

I'm going to log off and head to my home office for the show!

[Scout1071]

24. Being broadcast anywhere? CSPAN? Help, I want to see the

grilling!

[tedzbear]

17. But where it the link at the website?

I see the press briefing heading but no link on it.

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

18. When they are ready to go live...

...you will see that heading change to a "watch now" graphic.

You basically have to get the page up and keep hitting your "reload" button until they are live.

Yesterday they were 15 minutes late. Be patient, it will happen.

:toast:

[tedzbear]

19. Thanks!

I can't wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[seshers]

20. B_E_B

Cube rat needs play by play in Atlanta

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

22. You're gonna get a play-by-play, my friend. Sit tight.

:toast:

[seshers]

25. I'm so excited

and I just can't hide it.

[democrat_patriot]

31. "I'm about to lose control....

And I think I like it."

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

21. Signal just came up...this should be happening soon.

Just a "press briefing" graphic, probably to be followed by a soundcheck and then McClellan.

[Janice325]

29. It's starting but my 'puter is gonna crash,

DAMMIT!
Stupid Internet Explorer

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

26. They're doing the sound check now...n/t

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

27. We're LIVE, Scotty's on. n/t

[MaineDem]

28. Is C-Span covering it live? (nt)

[KelleyKramer]

32. 'Cut the deficit in half'

Yeah, we've been hearing that for years, and it just goes up up up and up.

[ticapnews]

34. See, if they can get it up to 750 billion or so...

it'll be that much easier to cut in half... :sarcasm:

Of course, considering they came into office with a surplus...

[Scout1071]

33. He sounds a little defeated already and he hasn't even started

taking questions.

Still can't find it on TV so that I can Tivo.

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

35. "Why no endorsement for Rove from the president"

"He wasn't asked about his confidence in Karl."

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

36. "He expressed confidence in Karl THROUGH ME, and...

...I just expressed it again."

PRESS: "He expressed confidence in Al Gonzales WITHOUT BEING ASKED" (laughter from press corp)

DAVID GREGORY: "Legalistic and sleazy defense. You're parsing words."
"Even if Karl Rove were trying to debunk bogus info...as Ken Mehlman said yesterday...you'd better make sure that person is not covert before discussing them in any way"

McClellan: You heard from the rpesident earlier. We've exhausted this.

[ticapnews]

37. ongoing investigation...

Good job David, but he's been parsing words more than the last few days...

[KelleyKramer]

38. Dave is going at him!!!

'Parsing words'.

'Is it appropriate to speak about a covert agent in any shape or form'

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

39. "I appreciate your question"...

"Again, I have nothing to add on this discussion, and if you have any other topics you'd like to address"...

"Again, we've been through this for the last two days. The briefings are available online."

[ticapnews]

43. Third-rate burglary...

that statement is inoperative...

Deja vu. :)

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

40. "We can continue to go around and around on this..."

PRESS: "Let's talk about the leak from the White House that affected a family...

McCLELLAN: "I'm not going to discuss this"

PRESS: "Is there any regret from the White House?"

McCLELLAN: "It doesn't change what I just said."

[DemsUnited]

41. It's Scotty roasting time again

Monday & Tuesday redux.

Only relief Scott is getting so far is from foreign journalists (just like the last two days).

[Scout1071]

42. Quick! Call on a foreign reporter!

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

44. "We're also working to spread freedom!"

Well, at least that's SOMETHING.

:spray:

[ticapnews]

45. Good job job Scotty!

He worked in a 9/11 reference! He also made reference to fighting "them" over there, and spreading freedom.

Way to deflect, Scotty.

Now, back to Karl Rove...

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

46. "War is difficult. War is tough."

He's really EDUCATING us today. Go, Scotty, GO.

:silly:

[ticapnews]

50. Not that anyone in THIS White House has any personal experience with it...

Remind me again, Scotty, in which unit did you serve?

[Scout1071]

47. "I'll get back to you in a minute Terry." He's so afraid of Terry Moran.

Go Terry go!

[ticapnews]

48. "radicalized Muslims"?

Faux News reporter?

Has David Gregory been dragged out of the press room? Or is Scotty just ignoring him?

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

49. Terra, terra, terra, terra, hijacking a religion, firm in our resolve...

...spreading freedom.

[JohnnyBoots]

51. How many of these reporters are plants/subject changers?

[bunny planet]

76. that hijacking a religion thing Scottie, could that be what the religious

wrong was doing with the Terry Schiavo case?

[tedzbear]

52. Fuck! They stopped asking about Rove!

I was hoping they would be relentless.

[ticapnews]

54. He is ignoring David and Terry...

Or the Secret Service shot them with tranqualizer darts.

Oh Jesus, now they're talking about nuclear terra!

[JohnnyBoots]

56. I thought the home run derby was on tuesday

[AndyTiedye]

79. That Should Have Been an Opening to Ask Why KKKARL Blew our WMD-Hunters

Karl Rove made nuclear terror more likely by blowing the cover
of Valerie Plame and her whole organization.
:nuke::nuke:

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

53. Press: President backing off on Social Security?

"We continue to work closely with congress. It's a high priority on the president's second term agenda."

Says we are "on track" to cut the deficit in half by 2009.

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

55. "In the event of nuclear terra on U.S. soil"...

These reporters have GOT to be PLANTS today.

Mentions WMDs and destroying ideology of terra-ists.

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

57. "It may not look like it, but there's a little flesh...

...that's been taken out of me in the last two days. Ha Ha HA!"

[ticapnews]

58. Oh good, now Iran.

Gotta get that cranked up again.

Wag the dog!

[JohnnyBoots]

59. more like a stump speech than a pres conference

[tedzbear]

61. This is a big disappointment...

My dream of Watergate 2 is greatly diminished.

[ticapnews]

67. Don't lose heart...

Here it comes again.

Remember: Ziegler tried to stonewall too. He wound up in prison.

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

60. Wants an "objective guarantee" on Iran nukes...

NO Rove questions. They're GONE. Everything is focusing on the president's "accomplishments" and "agenda."

[JohnnyBoots]

63. I feel like someone just stole my puppy, this is BS

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

62. Condemns attacks on Iraqi kids in the strongest possible terms.

"Terra-ists made Iraq central front in the war on terra. They will be defeated."

[ticapnews]

64. Well, now that Scotty has condemned car bombings "in the strongest...

possible terms" I'm sure they'll have second thoughts, report to the nearest US military base and sing "Kumbaya"

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

65. Educating us on Islam. Those who seek to hijack it, blah blah blah.

:grouphug:

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

66. ANOTHER ROVE QUESTION!

"Has Karl Rove offered his resignation?"

Ongoing investigation, I have nothing to add, etc.

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

68. "I WANT TO help the invesigation succeed...

...and the best way to do that is to not get into discussing the investigation from this podium. There's really nothing to add. We've exhausted this issue."

[tedzbear]

69. You got an Iran question?

Fuck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ticapnews]

73. He wants to "help" the investigation the same way

a lion wants to "help" a wounded gazelle.

[ticapnews]

70. He is so f*cking smug...

He totally blows off the question to take a softball on Iran.

Keep trying Scotty. David, Terry et al smell blood and they aren't going to back off. They can't be ignored forever.

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

71. Press making jokes about asking "Non-Rove Questions"

"Scott...I have a NON-ROVE question. A NON-ROVE question."

Ha ha ha.

[tedzbear]

74. They should not joke about this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is about treason!

[bunny planet]

72. LOL

Les asks Snottie a sodomy question.

[ticapnews]

77. So Scott, if it's a married man and woman...

is it still a crime?

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

75. Dragging out a space shuttle monologue to fill up time.

THAT'S IT.

"THANK YOU"

[ticapnews]

78. Kudos to the woman at the end, as Scotty was walking away

who simply shouted "Karl Rove" just before the camera went black.
:applause:

edit: I doubt that makes it into the official transcript ;)

[MoonRiver]

80. I've been boycotting circuses for some time due to animal rights

issues. Today I think I'll make an exception and watch the clown perform. :D

[jmcon007]

81. Here's a sneak preview:

As you know we've talked about this and decided it best not to discuss an ongoing investigation......

No one wants to get to the bottom of this more than the president...

There again, you're asking something connected to the investigation....

You all know me and I like you guys and I'll be happy to discuss this with you when the investigation is over.....

[earthboundmisfit]

82. Thanks, DU WH Briefing Corps - another great job!

It is most appreciated!:toast: