Full debunking of RNC talking points from TheLeftCoaster

[EarlG]

A number of rebuttals have been provided around the liberal blogosphere to the fakery from the GOP and their media arms about the Valerie Plame expose. Here's a roundup.

(Please feel free to add items in the comments if I missed anything - and distribute far and wide).

http://www.theleftcoaster.com/archives/004870.php

[skids]

1. Recommended. A "must-have" resource. n/t

[MsTryska]

2. that's awesome......

i'm spreading it around.

[papau]

3. Excellent!

:-)

[SheepyMcSheepster]

4. nice, kick

[slutticus]

5. This is excellent. Rate it to the top!

Bookmarked also.

[wryter2000]

6. Nominated

This should be on the home page. Please, EarlG...

[slutticus]

8. It is.

That's where I found it.

:)

[wryter2000]

10. Cool

I see it there now.

[October]

7. double super secret kick!

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Did you see Jon Stewart last night! LOL he took that "double super secret" quote and made it into a playground game. Very funny.

[Orion The Hunter]

23. RE: Jon Stewart

How's about when Stewart mentioned, during the WH Briefing clip, that the people in the audience in the clip had been replaced with actual reporters with spines? I almost fell out of my chair I was laughing so hard!

[democrat_patriot]

9. Needs links and references

"TALKING POINT:Valerie Plame (Joseph Wilson's wife) was not covert.
FACT: She was."

OK wheres the proof she was undercover? It's out there somewhere..

This will convince nobody as it stands.

TALKING POINT: Bush is NOT a liar.
FACT: He is.

See what I mean?

I'm recomending though :>)

[skids]

12. How about you try clicking....

On those two purple hyperlinks "She" and "was".

[democrat_patriot]

35. I'll nominate myself for the liberal idiots #1 issue

Thanks for the correction.

[democrat_patriot]

36. I'll nominate myself for the liberal idiots #1 issue

Thanks for the correction.

[melissinha]

11. Excellent resource, now a "favorite"

Thank you very much, very well done.

If you included true references to unequivocably allow us to debunk the right's BS. that would make it perfect.

[ananda]

13. I bookmarked it.

Thanks.

Sue

[LSK]

14. kick!!!

This is a great link.

[Up2Late]

15. "...while eating rice pilaf..."

"...deserves a medal in prison, to define the "role model" for fellow prisoners at Gitmo - while eating rice pilaf in the process)...."

Hey! Don't forget, Two types of Fruit too!!!

[Arkansas Granny]

16. Great info.

Easy to follow. Will recommend to friends.

[Name removed]

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[bear425]

18. I'm sure you would love to have this info

http://www.theleftcoaster.com/archives/004866.php

-snip-
First, let me cite Armando's response to Bob at Daily Kos:


Common sense tells me that 2 years into the investigation, the Plame prosecutor would have gathered enough facts to make such a determination. Seems a simple enough question. Heck, to me 2 hours seems sufficient. Served overseas? Check. In the last five years? Well, the CIA would know that one hopes. And the CIA referred the case to Justice. My application of common sense tells me that the answer is probably yes. Not enough? How about this:

The CIA declined to discuss Plame's intelligence work, but an agency official disputed suggestions that she was a mere analyst whose public exposure would have little consequence. "If she was not undercover, we would have no reason to file a criminal referral," the CIA official said, insisting on anonymity because of the sensitivity of the investigation.

-more-

Not exactly proof, but I think the CIA would concur.

[myrna minx]

19. Read this essay.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=103&topic_id=139106

[Totally Committed]

22. Here ya go....

The Big Lie About Valerie Plame
By Larry Johnson

From: TPMCafe Special Guests
The misinformation being spread in the media about the Plame affair is alarming and damaging to the longterm security interests of the United States. Republicans' talking points are trying to savage Joe Wilson and, by implication, his wife, Valerie Plame as liars. That is the truly big lie.


For starters, Valerie Plame was an undercover operations officer until outed in the press by Robert Novak. Novak's column was not an isolated attack. It was in fact part of a coordinated, orchestrated smear that we now know includes at least Karl Rove.


Valerie Plame was a classmate of mine from the day she started with the CIA. I entered on duty at the CIA in September 1985. All of my classmates were undercover--in other words, we told our family and friends that we were working for other overt U.S. Government agencies. We had official cover. That means we had a black passport--i.e., a diplomatic passport. If we were caught overseas engaged in espionage activity the black passport was a get out of jail free card.

http://www.tpmcafe.com/story/2005/7/13/04720/9340

TC

[KoKo]

20. Now how do we debunk NeoCon's saying Wilson leaked his wife's name

to reporters himself. This is the Big Shot out of the NeoCon/PNAC Gun from John Podhoretz on the National Review Blogsite. They want to discredit Wilson plus Fitzgerald and the whole investigation. They are dancing as fast as they can with the spin.

Here are the quotes about Wilson and Fitzgerald.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1926075

[rasputin1952]

21. Same things I've been saying, but added a few I could use...

:)

This 'spin' ain't gonna take...Rove is a severe liability...he's going down in a 'damned if I do, damned if I don't' scenario; bush can't win on this and he knows it.

[Hatalles]

24. This is great... anyone know if anyone does counter talking-points...

... on a regular basis?

[October]

25. Thanks. I did just that this morning! Excellent rebuttals!! /eom

[skids]

26. Another similar document.

...is linked here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1926588

[Shredr]

27. Brilliant.

Nominated.

[fishnfla]

28. I have one to add!

RW talking point: Wilson was a Kerry supporter
Response: and he was RIGHT about the yellowcake, which gives us a glimpse as to the type of admin JK would have had. truth men, not yes men

[Lucky Luciano]

29. I showed this t oa right winger who immediately

discredited it due to the fact that the links in the rebuttal page merely go to other left wing blogs or the LeftCoaster itself. He does have a point. The LeftCoaster should also offer citations in the links to sources they would not scream "BIAS!" about. Are there such links that are easy to find rather than wading through all the various links to links in the leftcoaster?

[mom cat]

30. Great piece of work..

:applause:

[Justpat]

31. Wow. Thats great.

thanks.

[NMDemDist2]

32. check out MSNBC's time line of the WH comments on Rove's involvement

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8550312/

[norml]

33. Thanks EarlG!

Keep up the good work!

[NMDemDist2]

34. kick for some good timely info we all need n/t

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[UrbScotty]

37. Kick!

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