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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 12:15 PM
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Repubs PLANTED their spin against Wilson in Senate Intel Report last year.
Edited on Wed Jul-13-05 12:38 PM by blm
They set up straw man questions about Wilson, like did Wilson lie when he said Cheney sent him to Niger....when we KNOW he actually said the OFFICE OF THE VP wanted an answer on Niger claim.

This entire report needs a better dissection, because there is no doubt everything they want to use against Wilson was planted in it last year.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senate_report_of_pre-war_intelligence_on_Iraq


Anyone else think that Sen. Pat Roberts should have to testify to Fitzgerald and the grand jury as to how he came up with his conclusions that Wilson lied?

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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 12:26 PM
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1. Yet, Bob Somerby attacks liberals again today for believing Wilson.
What is his problem? The man is incredibly bitter.

Does he still blame all of us that his roommate, Al Gore, lost in 2000? Somerby seems willing to believe, not only the hateful Deborah Orin from the New York Post, but the Senate Intelligence Committee--he neglects to report that the information that smears Wilson came from a minority report signed by only 3 of the 9 Reublican members of the committee, and no Democrats!

http://www.dailyhowler.com/
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Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 12:29 PM
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2. It's a friggin' PARTISAN REPORT. Why don't our talking heads say that?
No doubt this was inoculation against whatever would come in the investigation. And the conclusions I'm hearing that the Intel Committee reached seem to be incorrect ones - or just "assumed" information.

It's a partisan committee with a partisan report.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 12:37 PM
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3. I'm amazed that so few are noting that the report was never completed and
that Kerry's DSM letter is a demand to complete the second phase of the report dealing with the WHITE HOUSE'S involvement and use of intel.

I think Pat Roberts should be forced to testify to Patrick Fitzgerald on how he came to his conclusions.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 12:46 PM
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4. Indeed! Don't let DSM die! Urge Senators to sign Kerry's letter today!
Now is not the time to let up our pressure. Hold their feet to the fire! Email your Senators, particularly those of you with Senators on the Intelligence Committee. The only Senator who has signed is Corzine.

We must not let the Downing Street Memos die now!

http://intelligence.senate.gov/members.htm

________________________

From Salon War Room re Kerry's letter: "Where Are the Other Democrats?"

http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/print.html?blog=

Where are the other Democrats?

For those who have been itching for someone -- the national media, the White House, Congress, anybody -- to take the Downing Street memo seriously, the news today is mostly good: Even if the Republicans will never let it happen, John Kerry and nine other Senate Democrats have actually asked for an investigation that will include the revelations set forth in the Downing Street memo.

And yet -- where are the rest of the Senate Democrats? There are 44 Democrats in the Senate, and Kerry circulated a draft of his letter to the whole lot of them two weeks ago. In the end, he was able to persuade just nine of his colleagues to sign on: Jon Corzine, Tim Johnson, Frank Lautenberg, Ted Kennedy, Barbara Boxer, Tom Harkin, Jack Reed, Jeff Bingaman and Dick Durbin.

Where are you, Harry Reid? Any reason you didn't sign, Sen. Clinton? And while we wouldn't expect to see a signature from someone like Joe Lieberman on this letter, why don't we see your name there, Sen. Obama?

It would be one thing, we suppose, if Kerry's letter were outrageous somehow -- say, if it impugned the patriotism of millions of Americans or suggested their real "motives" were to put U.S. troops in mortal danger. But Kerry's letter isn't like that. It simply quotes passages from the Downing Street memo and highlights the "troubling questions" that they raise.

Is it that you don't think those questions are worth answers, Joe Biden? Or does the experience of Dick Durbin -- who did, after all, sign the Kerry letter -- have you too scared to raise them?

___________________________

Link to email your Senators and ask them to sign Senator Kerry's letter urging the Senate Intelligence Committee to complete Phase II of their investigation--how the administration used the intelligence they received in the run up to the Iraq War--which chairmain Pat Roberts agreed to in February, 2002.

http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 07:28 PM
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12. that phase was supposed to report on the politization of intelligence
and we wonder why its not being convened?
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 07:26 PM
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11. NO! Allegations Wilson lied were in a minority "additional view" report
Edited on Wed Jul-13-05 07:27 PM by kodi
it was contained in an addendum signed by only 3 of 18 senators on the committee. of the 9 GOP senators on the committee, only 3 signed that additional view, roberts, burns and hatch.

15 of the 18 senators DID NOT say wilsom lied

i posted the details earlier here.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1922091

and you ought to read it because it debunks almost every attack on wilson about him lying.

what was partisan was that many of the interviews of the CIA officials who testified about who recommended wilson was done only by republican appointed staffers.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 01:04 PM
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5. bump....Roberts should testify under oath how he concluded Wilson lied.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 01:23 PM
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7. Yes, Patrick Fitgerald. What are you waiting for?
You are our only hope to get to bottom of the outing of Valerie Plame and the smearing of both Plame and her husband, Joe Wilson--because we know the Senate, under Republican control, is not a co-equal branch of government and have surrendered their responsibility for governmental oversight, particularly of the executive branch--and will never investigate Dubya.

They have given up this power and become rubber stamps for Dubya's political goals--the architect of these goals is none other than Karl Rove.

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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 01:23 PM
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6. Roberts needs to be put under oath. I agree.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 01:56 PM
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8. blm, did you see my post about NeoCon's latest outrage? The Big Guns..
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 02:34 PM
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9. Caught it. thanks.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 06:13 PM
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10. It's amazing isn't it how full their "sack of lying s**t is! They seem to
have unlimited funds to think up lie after lie and diversion after diversion while our Dems...are left holding an "empty sack." :-(

It's enough to make one want to leave here...but there's nowhere to go...they OWN IT ALL ...with their WAR ON TERRA! :puke:
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