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oxbow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 12:40 AM
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What about Rove's other victims?
On Rove’s trail of tears lie the careers of folks like Mike Moeller and Pete McRae whose political careers ended not in a lost election but a federal penitentiary. Other battered and broken political nemeses were Jim Hightower and Ann Richards.

No one, though, knows Rove¹s vindictiveness better than John Weaver. Were it not for Karl Rove, Weaver might still be a leading Republican political consultant. In Texas, Rove and Weaver had been successful partners, until Weaver chose to go out on his own and build a client list. A few months later, Weaver hired an employee away from Rove. Before too long, as competition grew between Rove and Weaver,disgusting rumors began to circulate about Weaver¹s personal life, and reporters and potential clients wondered about Weaver¹s judgment. The stories, which many reporters have said originated with Rove, dried up Weaver¹s business, and he left Texas.
Eventually, Weaver became the lead political strategist to Senator John McCain¹s presidential campaign. After McCain lost the bitter primary battle, Weaver discovered he was squeezed out of party work by Rove, who was now in charge of all things Republican. Weaver became a Democrat, an advisor to the Democratic National Committee, simply because Rove was never content to leave him alone.

Rove had his own office bugged and blamed it on his political rivals. He unleashed vicious whisper campaigns against opponents, calling into question their sexuality, their sanity and other dirty tricks. Every campaign he has been involved in has been characterized by these mysterious smear tactics. And even though nothing has ever been conclusively linked to Rove before Plamegate, the pattern of dirty tricks that follows Rove speaks for itself.

So why is no one talking about these stories? What about Pete McRae, who was hounded by a political hack of an FBI agent until he spent 27 months in jail for a crime he never even committed? What about John Weaver getting not only beaten, but blacklisted out of the Republican party before Rove was satisfied? Why isn't the DNC calling into question this pattern of dirty tricks? Why isn't the free press interviewing the political corpses that Rove left behind on his way to the White House? This Plame issue is small potatoes compared to the other crimes that Rove has committed. So why is everybody focusing only on this?
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oxbow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 12:41 AM
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1. One note:
note: the paragraph on Weaver was snatched from another website, as it was a good synopsis and I'm not going to do the work when other people have already done it.
Just thought you should know!
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 10:17 AM
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7. here is a link to an interesting synopsis of how Rove wipes
his 'prints' off his actions-
>>>>>snip<<<<<<
The “Mark of Rove” refers to Machiavellian maneuvers that leave no trace of their origin. In other words, Rove's involvement is but rumored. “The New Yorker” had a nice way of putting it: “Rove has an ominpresent quality.” During his first gubernatorial campaign in Texas, Rove announced that someone had bugged his office, and who but the opposition would benefit from that? Others in Texas politics thought Rove had planted the bug himself. Nothing was proved, and the Republicans won. In 1994, W Bush was campaigning for governor against the incumbent Ann Richards. A whisper campaign had it that Richard had employed a lesbian, and perhaps was one herself. Bush said nothing. A local campaign chairman who had worked with Rove whispered the rumors to the press. A scandal erupted and Bush, who had neither run for nor held any public office, won the governorship.
>>>>>>more at link<<<<<<<<<<



http://www.marciapally.com/rove.html
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oxbow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 11:46 AM
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9. I remember that
turned out the bug was battery powered. The battery had only a 10 hour life, and there was still like 6 hours left on it, meaning that it had to have been planted 4 hours before being found in Rove's office. very convenient, don't you think?
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 01:25 AM
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2. Whatta white house we have
a serial abuser and a psychotic working hand in hand. Kinda reminds me of the story "In Cold Blood" where the two personalities combined to make a horrid outcome.
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oxbow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 01:55 AM
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3. so which one is which?
Cheney's the abuser and Rove the psycho? Or wait, is Bush the psycho and Rove the abuser? There's too many freaks to choose from
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 08:33 AM
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4. That's a good question. My guess is that people are still afraid
of Rove. He's not out of this yet and if he gets away with all this, anyone who went up against him will be the target of his retribution.

Great country, ain't it? :eyes:
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Gatchaman Donating Member (944 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 08:46 AM
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5. I can't see how Bush can trust Rove
Seriously. Since the guy has no soul, what makes Bush think that his buddy Karl won't sell him up the river if it ever comes down to either saving Bush's presidency or keeping Karl's ass out of jail.
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TroglodyteScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 09:39 AM
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6. The Bushes have been very good to him.........
GW *is* Rove's political career. W may have been born into the family, but his entire public life has been shaped by Rove. W is Rove's life-long project. Rove knows that he himself could never get elected and effect change that way, so he molded this bit of aristoclay into a world's-most-powerful-man who is essentially a parrot on Rove's shoulder.

I'd say the time is far riper for Bush to drop Rove. The main barrier to this would be the fact that Bush doesn't know how to think for himself and probably doesn't know who, besides Rove, he can trust. But I could still see Bush dropping Rove - not to do what is right and just, but to free himself of a growing political liability.

I don't think it'll happen too soon, but I think it's more likely than Rove striking out on his own.

They're all parasites -- it just happens they can feed off of one another, too.
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oxbow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 11:40 AM
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8. The Bushes value loyalty more than ethics
For example, Rove and a rival were competing to become head of the College Republicans in 1971. The Camapaign was very intense and came to a tie. George H.W. Bush, head of the RNC at the time, was asked to mediate a winner. At that time though, a Washington Post article was released talking about Rove's teaching other college Republicans to use dirty tricks. Bush, senior believed that Rove's rival was reponsible. He gave the position to Rove as a result. He said as much when Rove's rival called up asking about the decision, and none too kindly either.

BUSH WAS NOT UPSET THAT ROVE WAS TEACHING DIRTY TRICKS, BUT THAT HIS RIVAL LEAKED TO THE POST. HE AND HIS CLAN VALUE LOYALTY ABOVE MORALITY. THAT'S WHY THEY'LL STICK BY ROVE TO THE BITTER END.
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Tippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 01:37 PM
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10. Bush's Brain
The Sundance channel has been running this documentry at least for at least two weeks... It's interesting.....It confirms much of what has been said since Rove's name has been linked to the leak...
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