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the old gringo Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 11:10 AM
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Bush Changes his Tune re: Firing the Leaker
President Bush was hedging his bets today, by saying that anyone in his administration who was found to have committed a crime in a federal investigation of the leak of a covert CIA agent's name would be fired. Note the new framing: anyone who is found to have "committed a crime", not anyone who leaked the name, as he has insisted for the last two years.

How low can the man stoop? How much more will the American public stand for?
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 11:15 AM
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1. I guess it depends on what the meaning of "committed a crime" is.
Nope, I don't think Americans will fall for it, except for his clueless worshippers.
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 11:17 AM
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2. A whole lot...they're used to watching jugglers and magicians...
...especially that one trick where one of the balls gets tossed into the air and Never Comes Back.

Distraction, obfuscation, subterfuge...these are the tools to keep all the balls in the air and the missing one out of mind.
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wellstone dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 11:19 AM
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3. illegality
means someone found out, so you have to fire them.
immorality doesn't matter.

lesson learned.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 11:21 AM
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4. I believe he said "dealt with" not "fired"
Edited on Mon Jul-18-05 11:22 AM by leveymg
His phrasing was coached back then too.

Dealt with: "Okay Karl, how many cards? Scooter, you gonna ante up there, boy?"
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lojasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 12:50 PM
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12. Actually: "Taken care of" was the term he used
He's keeping his promise....really. :eyes:
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 01:17 PM
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13. I'm corrected.
Of course they're being very careful with him. If dropped, he might explode - Gawd, what a mess.:nuke:
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 11:26 AM
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5. Flip-flop, flip-flop,flip-flop!!
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 12:18 PM
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11. Time for us to use that meme against him! I'd love to hear Dean use it!
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 11:44 AM
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6. does he pardon the leaker before or after he fires them?
ya know it's gonna happen....
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 11:59 AM
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9. if Bush pardons the leaker, he won't have to fire him
because the pardon will take care of that whole "convicted of a crime" thing, now won't it.
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 11:54 AM
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7. Can you imagine that?
President Einstein here is saying he won't fire somebody, "unless they've been convicted". Imagine, the deputy chief of staff, walking around with security clearance, access to all kinds of sensitive information, and Your Truly won't do anything until this creep is convicted.

You're right: this is a new low. For Bush, for the US. And for the world which is watching: disgust.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 11:55 AM
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8. In other words, being indicted is no longer grounds for firing
We have to wait a couple of years for the trial to see if Rove is convicted.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 12:01 PM
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10. What happened to avoiding even the appearance of impropriety?
Once again, with Republicans in charge, government is not to be undertaken by selfless public servants working for the common good, but merely the plaything of corrupt individuals who haven't yet been convicted for their crimes.

But I guess it IS comforting to know that should someone in Bush administration actually be convicted of a crime, that Bush will promptly get rid of that person, and revoke his security access. Does Bush say if this applies should the person convicted appeal the conviction, or will they maintain their office and clearance pending any and all appeals?

Corrupt, corrupt, corrupt.
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