Campbell Brown smacks down John Fund, WSJ, on "Hardball" (Rove)

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

Fund was reciting the RNC talking points, saying Karl Rove committed no crime "other than perhaps perjury," and Plame Gate is a "tempest in a teapot."

Brown interrupted "Wait, wait, WAIT...you're telling me that PERJURY is a tempest in a teapot, and NO BIG THING?"



:toast:

[DesEtoiles]

1. then Fund stupidly said the perury was in the State Dept.

[flpoljunkie]

18. Isn't perjury what the Rethugs settled on to try and get Clinton? Damn

sure was--lying under oath--otherwise known as perjury.

[Justitia]

22. Yes, but perjury about sex is WAY worse than perjury about treason - silly

Of course, you know that already!

:sarcasm:

[Mike Nelson]

2. Nice to see formerly laid back...

...reporters are starting to challenge Fund scum.

[Fridays Child]

8. I cannot stand that liver-lipped slug.

It boggles the mind to think that he was ever involved in an abortion scandal. Who, in the name of all that's good in the world, could ever fuck that man? I'd eat the crotch of a dead man first.

[Justitia]

20. Oh yeah! That's right! Didn't he get his girlfriend's DAUGHTER pregnant?

I vaguely remember this....something to do w/domestic violence too?

[Pepperbelly]

25. link ...

http://www.americanpolitics.com/sc20010904connolly.html

[Justitia]

34. Ahhh...More Repub "family values" - and I do mean "family"!

Disgusting RW scum. I expect no less from the Hypocrite Party!

Yes, Fund has Woody Allen syndrome, apparently.

[Tennessee Gal]

3. Wish I had been watching..........

I'll catch it on the replay!

Thanks

[fooj]

4. She has been on fire today. About time these journalists do their jobs!

Woo hoo!:woohoo:

peace.

[KaryninMiami]

5. My tempest in a teapot is boiling over.

Give me a break. They mislead us into war and thousands died. This is but a small example of their crap. Give me a break. The need to be arrested for war crimes for goodness sake.

[blm]

6. Fund used to say Clinton should be "shunned" by all society because he

lied about having sex.

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

7. More from Fund:

"The scandal will dissipate once Bush names a Supreme Court nominee, and much of the scandal is the fault of the media."

[IChing]

28. That is the fourth Time I have heard that from talking heads

Bushenfurher will bring a name up for SC as quickly as possible
even if it is not a good name,
or a name he really wants,
or a name that will never pass
just to get the media off his back.

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

9. Fund: "IF it had happened it WOULD have been serious, but...

WE...KNOW...ONE...THING...NOW, she was NOT a covert agent!"

Smug little bastard is almost worse than Hannity.

[Justitia]

14. And GEE, if she wasn't COVERT, why would the CIA refer this to Justice?

I mean if the CIA didn't think it was "any big deal", and she wasn't covert with an ENTIRE CIA FRONT OPERATION going on - why the hell would the CIA refer this leak to the freakin' Justice dept as a criminal investigation????? Why?????

These traitor apologists are sickening.

[snippy]

31. The CIA referral is not the only flaw in that GOP talking point.

A primary point in the republican defense of the criminal leaks is that Plame was not covert. But if that is so clear how do the republicans explain the following facts?

1. After conducting an investigation, the CIA formally requested that the Justice Department begin a criminal investigation;

2. After the Justice Department investigation had begun gathering evidence, Attorney General Ashcroft found it neccessary to recuse himself;

3. The Justice Department felt that it was neccessary to appoint a special prosecutor;

4. The special prosecutor's investigation has gone on for many, many months;

5. Various media organizations filed briefs in the Cooper/Miller case arguing that no crime was committed because Plame was not covert, but the Court of Appeals did not accept that argument; and

6. Judge Tatel's concurring opinion in the Court of Appeals decision in the Cooper/Miller case referred to:

a. "criminal leaks,"
b. "the crime,"
c. "the plot against Wilson,"
d. the leak at issue being "harmful to national security," and
e. identifying the leakers is "essential to remedying a serious breach of public trust."

It seems odd that no one in the CIA, the Justice Department, the Attorney General's office, the special prosecutor's office, the District Court overseeing the grand jury, or the Court of Appeals would bother to check to see whether the status of Valerie Plame fell within the statute. It must be "hard work" to check something like that.

It is an indication of how weak the republican case is that they focus on such a flawed argument in defense of Bush and his criminal minions. After all, arguing that no crime was committed because Plame was not covert is a tacit admission that the leaks occurred and that those accused of leaking were responsible. Evidently, to Bush and his followers, restoring honor and dignity to the White House means using a legal loophole to avoid indictment.

[flpoljunkie]

17. Wilson said the moment she was "outed" she was no longer a covert agent.

And not before!

[DesEtoiles]

24. Fund is a shamelss liar

[bagimin]

10. Fund = shit n/t

[flordehinojos]

11. although, earlier in the program she kept trying to tell wilson's attorney

what it was that wilson had said and when ... only to have wilson's attorney repeatedly correct the turns she was trying to maneuver and bring her right back smack dead center.

[Justice]

29. Wilson's attorney was excellent

[DefenseLawyer]

12. Someone should play back a few of the thousands of sound bites

of fathead Fund saying "It's not about sex! It's about perjury!" during the Clinton impeachment witch-hunt.

[City Lights]

13. She smacked him once over the tempest in a teapot thingy, but

never challenged him on the numerous times he stated Valerie Plame was "not" undercover. :grr:

[Todd B]

15. I'm glad he thinks that no crime has been committed other then perjury sin

I'm glad he thinks that no crime has been committed other then perjury since, as we all know from the Clinton era, it's an impeachable offense.

Did anyone else nearly put their television through a wall when he kept running with the talking point that Wilson supposedly said himself that Plame wasn't a covert agent? Arrgh.

[Justice]

16. Campbell Brown allowed Fund to state several lies

Anne Kornblut and the guy from Slate were woefully uninformed. It is incredible these journalists have a job. All Anne cared about was whether this was an inside the Beltway or outside the Beltway story. Anne was surprised at the ABC poll numbers - guess this is a bigger story than she thought, that they (reporters) were wrong.

Fund said TWICE that Wilson said his wife was not covert on the day Rove outed her. No one jumped in to correct him.

The two lawyers on first had a good grasp of the facts. The lawyer for Cooper and for Wilson/Plame were good. Barney Frank was good, but didn't bring up the nondisclosure agreement, only focused on the one statute.

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

19. I think she locked on the "tempest" thing...

I don't think she was giving him a free pass. I think she heard that "tempest" crap, locked in on it, and maybe stopped listening a bit while she formulated her response. I don't know. All I can say is watch the repeat tonight. She actually had a PHYSICAL reaction to Fund. She looked like she wanted to vomit.

[Justice]

30. He made several specific false statements that no one corrected

she stumbled over the tempest thing (she actually stumbles over alot of words/phrases).

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

21. And Fund said Joe Wilson was the accuser which is total BS

I can't believe that neither Campbell Brown nor anyone challenged him on this statement. Joe Wilson is NOT the accuser. If it were uniquely up to Wilson there would be no Grand Jury convened. It's the CIA that filed the complaint with the Justice Department. Why can't these talking heads who make such good money remember that our very own CIA thought that this situation was critical to national security and initiated this investigation?

[Al-CIAda]

27. Because they are incompetent, cowed, easily led fools? n/t

[slor]

33. I agree with you...

everyone involved in that discussion was pathetic. That big liar fund was allowed free reign to spew his lies, and the other three did not try to stop him. It was disgusting!

[DesEtoiles]

23. there are so many people who should have this show instead of Tweety

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

26. I love Campbell Brown. I'd give the show to her.

She's not perfect, but she has class, she's smart, and she's tough.

What other qualities could possibly be required?

:toast:

[nicktom]

36. Plus she is a whole lot easier on the eye's.

For some reason I pay special attention to whatever she say's.

[City Lights]

32. I agree! tweets sucks.

My vote would go to David Gregory. I suggested it to Hardball after he filled in for tweets last week.

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

35. I forgot about David Gregory (and Poland)!

So yeah, they can give another show to Campbell Brown. David Gregory DEFINITELY knows how to play Hardball.

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