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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 09:58 PM
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Conyers - The Nixon White House Would Blush
http://www.conyersblog.us/archives/00000175.htm

Blogged by JC on 07.18.05 @ 09:58 PM ET

The Nixon White House Would Blush

Can there be any doubt after today that a president who rode into town promising “honesty and integrity” has brought our ethical standards to a new low? We now have...

Can there be any doubt after today that a president who rode into town promising “honesty and integrity” has brought our ethical standards to a new low?

We now have a White House operation in place that is a pure, unadulterated political machine, with no discernible ethical scruples. They think nothing of baselessly attacking any and all political opponents – just ask Senators Max Cleland and John McCain. And they will circle the wagons around their key loyalists, no matter how culpable – see Karl Rove and Scooter Libby.

We learned from Downing Street, that the White House was willing to “fix the facts around the policy,” no matter the cost in lives or our nation’s reputation. Rovegate involves the same modus operandi: When faced with a growing scandal before the election, Bush righteously promised to throw out any and all leakers. McClellan went so far as to tell us it would be “ludicrous” to accuse Rove or Libby of leaks. Now that there is no doubt that those statements are false and, presto, the standard has changed to “if someone committed a crime.”

The powers that be at the White House really can’t be so naive as to believe that the American public will fall for this charade, so the only possible conclusion is that they have entered into a “save Rove at all costs strategy,” even if it means making earlier statements “inoperative” and eliminating any and all White House ethical standards short of criminal misconduct. Apparently, “Bush’s brain” is so central to the White House operation, that Bush is willing to bet his presidency on the outcome of Fitzgerald’s investigation. To me that is truly scary.

Two articles out today to bring to your attention. First, the AP has a story on Bush’s changing the ethical rules in the middle of the game, including a quote by the undersigned.

Second, the LA Times has an excellent overview of where we are and how we got here. There is really no doubt at this point that two key political operatives in the White House, namely Karl Rove and I. Lewis Libby, set about to smear Joe Wilson. They used the media to out a CIA operative, vehemently denied they had done so, and now that they cannot deny it any more, Bush backtracked to change the standard for dismissal from leaking to criminal misconduct. Now they are simply hoping and praying that both the necessary level of legal willfulness cannot be shown and that the press and Democrats can be bullied or intimidated into thinking that ethics -- as well as internal security requirements -- don't matter.

Look for the White House to try to change the subject very soon.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2005/07/18/national/w151107D57.DTL

Bush Would Fire Leaker if Crime Committed
- By JENNIFER LOVEN, Associated Press Writer
Monday, July 18, 2005

(07-18) 18:55 PDT WASHINGTON, (AP) --

President Bush qualified his pledge to dismiss any White House official found to have leaked the name of a CIA operative, saying Monday that "if someone committed a crime" he would be fired.

In September 2003, the White House had said anyone who leaked classified information in the case would be dismissed. Bush reiterated that promise last June, saying he would fire anyone found to have disclosed the CIA officer's name. Democrats said Bush in his new comments had "lowered the ethics bar" for his administration.

Bush would not say whether he was displeased that Rove, the deputy chief of staff, told a reporter that the wife of administration critic Joseph Wilson worked for the CIA on weapons of mass destruction issues. A 2003 phone call with Rove was the first time that Matthew Cooper of Time magazine had heard that Wilson's wife worked at the agency, according to a first-person account by Cooper in the magazine.

The president, in an East Room news conference with Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, said there was a "serious ongoing investigation." "I think it's best that people wait until the investigation is complete before you jump to conclusions. And I will do so, as well," he said. "I don't know all the facts. I want to know all the facts."

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URL: http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/n/a/2005/07/18/national/w151107D57.DTL


http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-leak18jul18,0,4779848.story?coll=la-home-headlines

Top Aides Reportedly Set Sights on Wilson
Rove and Cheney chief of staff were intent on discrediting CIA agent's husband, prosecutors have been told.

By Tom Hamburger and Peter Wallsten, Times Staff Writers

WASHINGTON — Top aides to President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney were intensely focused on discrediting former Ambassador Joseph C. Wilson IV in the days after he wrote an op-ed article for the New York Times suggesting the administration manipulated intelligence to justify going to war in Iraq, federal investigators have been told.

Prosecutors investigating whether administration officials illegally leaked the identity of Wilson's wife, a CIA officer who had worked undercover, have been told that Bush's top political strategist, Karl Rove, and Cheney's chief of staff, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, were especially intent on undercutting Wilson's credibility, according to people familiar with the inquiry.

Although lower-level White House staffers typically handle most contacts with the media, Rove and Libby began personally communicating with reporters about Wilson, prosecutors were told.

A source directly familiar with information provided to prosecutors said Rove's interest was so strong that it prompted questions in the White House. When asked at one point why he was pursuing the diplomat so aggressively, Rove reportedly responded: "He's a Democrat." Rove then cited Wilson's campaign donations, which leaned toward Democrats, the person familiar with the case said.

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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 10:01 PM
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1. .........
Conyers :yourock:

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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 10:09 PM
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2. Greeby
Welcome to DU!

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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 10:14 PM
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4. welcome aboard matey
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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 10:13 PM
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3. Where did Libby and Rove get information on a CIA agents identity?
Perhaps a naive question as I am not familiar with the inner workings of this administration or the intelligence agencies.

But, assume that I am the other person who is not going to believe that a reporter told Rove who then told Libby. Also assume that this is critical information for any attorney general who may be conducting an investigation.

Two questions then.

1. How did they come to have access to this intelligence (The agents identity).

2. By what legal mechanism were they permitted to release this information to a reporter or anyone else.

We can speculate about the reasons for the release of the information and assume it was for political retribution till the cows come home. I want to know if they had clearance to have this information, and clearance to publicly disseminate it.

Is this not the crux of the biscuit?
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 11:24 PM
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6. well here's something that mentions a State Dept INR report that may help
Edited on Mon Jul-18-05 11:31 PM by Garbo 2004
give an idea of how they might have gotten hold of the info. And the other articles linked to there are worth a look too to fill out the story.

http://www.warandpiece.com/blogdirs/002271.html

The report wasn't declassified for public release when the info was circulated. Don't know about clearances to have access to that classified report. But seriously doubt that there was any legit legal clearance to disseminate info from it, given the the CIA filing a crime report as a result.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 01:09 AM
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7. Thank you, very useful. nt
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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 08:48 AM
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8. excellent information. The attorney general is piecing this thing
together by using these and similar timelines.

For me, it is starting to look like Mr. Rove in his hubris, is pitting his dirty tricks machine against the machinations of our intelligence communities. He feels invincible and wants to impose his will.

But I believe, that the majority of the men and women that serve in the intelligence community have a vested interest in honorably serving the country and doing their jobs. They have families and loved ones who live in the US and who look to them for protection from enemies without and within.

It is also starting to look like the president and his administration has been derelict in their duty to the American people.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 10:20 PM
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5. Thank you Mr. Conyers!
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 11:38 AM
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9. .
afternoon :kick:
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