Can Kerry fight off Edwards AND Dean?

[robsul82]

Something I noticed today. If it comes down to Kerry/Edwards for the nomination, Kerry is not getting ANY of the Dean pie. Despite the stuff that goes on here, I really don't think that many of us are NBDers. We'd go over to Edwards in huge numbers, and I really don't think Kerry could fight that off at all. What do you think?

Later.

RJS

[Catch22Dem]

1. So what will the NBDers do?

I suspect people who advocate voting 3rd party won't be welcome at DU once the nominee is chosen.

[Lobo_13]

2. In my caucus

All but two of my people went to Edwards.

If Dean drops out, Kerry won't stand a chance against Edwards.

[dsc]

3. I would be torn between Kerry and Clark

but looking for a reason to vote for Clark. I am not at all happy with Kerry but his gay rights record is very good. Clark, if I could find a reason that he would be strong on that issue would be my second choice.

[robsul82]

4. Clark isn't still running in this scenario. Dropped out.

It's just Kerry/Edwards.

Later.

RJS

[bain_sidhe]

6. Then your scenario has little resemblence to reality

IMHO, of course.

[paulk]

5. I think you're mistaking DU for the real world

Of course many Dean supporters will go to Kerry, just as many will go to Edwards, or Clark, or perhaps even GW Bush. A big problem with the Dean campaign all along has been this notion of "we". The tendency by the Dean campaign to view Dean supporters as some kind of monolithic, exclusionary group cost Dean dearly in Iowa, where the Dean legions turned out to be a measly eighteen percent.

[Lobo_13]

7. As I said

Edwards got all but two of my people at that caucus.

So in the real world, Edwards will probably get the majority of Dean folks who remain in the fray.

Alot of Dean people will probably just drop out of the process again.

[JI7]

9. what do you mean by that ?

"Alot of Dean people will probably just drop out of the process again."

you mean they wont vote at all?

[Old and In the Way]

13. Remember that 3% who voted for Ralph?

They all went into the Dean camp. If Howard loses, we'll be treated to lectures about how we are all wrong, we should have listened to them, blah,blah,blah. Then like a good flock of homing pigeons they'll head back home into Ralph's camp.

Too bad for Howard....I think his "supporters" are really doing a disservice to him with the idiotic attacks and threats to leave if they don't get their way.

My advice: See yeah, don't let the door hit cha on the way out.

:-)

[Forkboy]

16. Greens dont like Dean

Any info to back up the charge that they all went to the Dean camp?

[Old and In the Way]

20. Since when do opinions need sites?

I've seen enough opinions on Kerry the last few days to make my opinion.

[isbister]

17. Re: Remember that 3%

Me and my better half didn't. (Don't worry, protest vote... Gore won here handily)

I don't see Nader as much of a match with Dean at all.

[HazMat]

11. I don't think so

Edwards' key positions are very similar to Kerry's. I just don't see how the core Deaniacs who hate Kerry because of his positions would go to Edwards.

[isbister]

18. Edwards and Kerry

Weren't all that close on the war issue and it seems to me that is one big issue for Dean's people. Seems to me those people are closer to Kerry's position than Edwards' position.

[HazMat]

10. Of course. There are many

Dean supporters/former Dean supporters whose natural second choice would be Kerry, who are not part of the Deaniac core . I'd say most of them at the height of Dean's polling were non-hardcore types, judging by how quickly they defected in the final weeks in IA.

[JI7]

8. what if dean drops out and endorses edwards ?

?

[girl gone mad]

12. I can't see Dean supporters..

going for Kerry, because of the IWR vote. Kerry has never been consistent on that issue.

[Old and In the Way]

14. I guess that leaves Clark.

And he was "sorta" pro-IWR.

[isbister]

19. Kerry has been consistent

Before, during and after the vote.

The thinking Dean people will probably mostly go to Kerry, the bandwagon jumpers will probably mostly go to Edwards. If they're anti-war and that's the deciding factor, Kerry and Dean are a heck of a lot closer than Dean and Edwards.... Edwards is closer to Lieberman's camp, isn't he?

[AnnitaR]

15. Worst case scenario is if both Dean & Clark are out.

IMHO.

But if that is indeed what happens... I will support Edwards. Kerry will have to be the last man standing before he gets my support.

Hopefully people will see that Clark is our best hope to win in the GE and this won't even be a concern.