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Joey Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 08:25 PM
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Fuck Roberts - Let's concentrate on Traitorgate
We need to nail Rove, and then the house of Bush will begin to fall...
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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 08:27 PM
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1. agree
Roberts will be confirmed. He got a unanimous vote to the court of appeals.

Back to treasongate
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 08:27 PM
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2. I agree. Nothing will be done until Congress
is in session again after their break. Keep RoveCo front and center as well as * not firing or suspending him.
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 08:27 PM
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3. Roberts isn't that big of a threat, based on current info.
"Pressed during his 2003 confirmation hearing for the appeals court seat for his own views on the matter, Roberts said: "Roe v. Wade is the settled law of the land. ... There's nothing in my personal views that would prevent me from fully and faithfully applying that precedent."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/19/AR2005071901518.html
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Rick Myers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 08:28 PM
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4. AGREED
This is a SMOKE screen!!!
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 08:29 PM
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5. Exactly. They are shitting themselves as we speak.
Why do you think they "changed" their SC strategy? They want an EXTREME reaction out of us to deflect attention. Screw them. We've got them on the defensive---lets keep them there.

Peace.
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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 08:31 PM
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9. I thought they would appoint a rabid right winger for that very reason
could have been a lot worse
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YDogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 08:30 PM
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6. I concur.
As important as this is, it will take a while to sort out, but rove is still simmering.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 08:30 PM
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7. I agree. Rove, Libby and their bosses
All must go.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 08:32 PM
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10. IMO, Fitz is moving in that direction.
Peace.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 08:30 PM
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8. here here
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colbushwhacker_2000 Donating Member (161 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 08:34 PM
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11. Treasongate must be kept front and center
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 08:34 PM
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12. Let the oxygen back into Rove-Cheney Plamegate
Roberts is going to be confirmed. Bet the farm on it, unless you know of some obvious skeleton.

Call Bush's bluff and frustrate him, by letting the oxygen back into Plamegate. The Dems should be absolutely quiet about Roberts nomination until the Senate hearings. There they must come down heavy with probing, searching questions, and then let the nomination slip through quietly on a party line vote.

Get the focus off the nominee and back on Rove / Cheney.
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ribrepin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 08:35 PM
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13. Agree
He'll be confirmed. This senate would confirm Roy Moore(late of the ten commands in Alabama.)

Back to traitorgate.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 08:35 PM
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14. Lewis Libby’s involvement represents an even more insidious abuse of power
Edited on Tue Jul-19-05 08:36 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
Lewis Libby’s involvement represents an even more insidious abuse of power. The Bush administration is being accused of leaking the name of Valerie Plame in retribution for a New York Times op-ed article written by her husband, diplomat Joseph Wilson. Wilson wrote that he never found any evidence in a 2002 trip to Africa, contrary to claims made by President Bush in his 2003 State of the Union address, that Saddam Hussein was procuring uranium from Niger for nuclear weapons.

Bush would invade Iraq over weapons of mass destruction that were never found. But Libby, Cheney, and the other influential right-wing hard-liners, such as Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Armitage, Richard Perle, and Douglas Feith, saw their dreams come true. Back in the administration of the senior President Bush, Cheney was defense secretary and Libby and Wolfowitz were two of his aides who, after the first Gulf War left Saddam in power, drafted a document advocating ‘‘preemptive’’ war against possible threats.

They said the United States should be ‘‘postured to act independently when collective action cannot be orchestrated.’’

Such provocation was kept at bay when President Clinton beat Bush in 1992 and took office for eight years. But when the junior Bush became president in 2000, the hard right on foreign policy took the helm. They used the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11 as an excuse for invading Iraq, even though President Bush’s own 9/11 Commission found no tie between Saddam and 9/11.

Libby was in the thick of whipping up fear over the thinnest of evidence. The level to which Libby and Cheney stooped to get their war was highlighted by the momentous presentation of Saddam’s ‘‘threat’’ before the United Nations Security Council by then Secretary of State Colin Powell. Powell gave a presentation six weeks before the war where he said, ‘‘every statement I make today is backed up by sources, solid sources. These are not assertions.’’ Those assertions resulted in grudging acceptance of the war from many Democrats.

Virtually all of Powell’s solid sources fell apart when the United States turned Iraq upside down, killing thousands of Iraqi civilians in the process. He would have looked much worse had he listened to everything Libby and Cheney tried to feed him. It was Cheney’s staff who wrote the first draft of Powell’s UN speech. It was Libby who suggested, in strategy meetings at the White House, playing up every possible, conceivable threat of Saddam — with the emphasis on the word ‘‘conceive.’’
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union_maid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 08:35 PM
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15. I tend to agree
Unless the nomination can be stalled until 2008, I can't see the point in fighting it. Of course he sucks. Who would Bush appoint who didn't suck. If anything, I'd just as soon see Democrats give him a pass and watch the Freepers worry about that. They won't be happy with anyone that Democrats can live with.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 08:43 PM
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16. yeah
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Hope springs eternal Donating Member (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 08:43 PM
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17. Hmmm...
Speaking of Iraq, if everything was pre-planned (pre 2000), yet hinged on 9/11, how did that fall into place?
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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 08:48 PM
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19. hello?
Is there a John Roberts connection here or are you free associating?
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 08:44 PM
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18. bullshit
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