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CTLawGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 09:21 PM
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Is there ANYTHING redeeming about Roberts?
If not (or too little), we must fight him, (and if we don't even try, we are worthless)

If there is enough redeeming about him to prove that he uses his brain to make some decisions, then we should thank our lucky stars that the system works and let him go in.


I think a good way to think about it is "is he predictable"

O'Connor wasn't really predictable, she was the swing vote that everyone wondered about.

Scalia and Thomas are extremely predictable. You can guess how they will rule in any case. thats what makes them poor justices. they are just political hacks for the Repubs.

Do you think Roberts will be predictable or unpredictable?
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 09:25 PM
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1. Yea. At least he isn't a famous , known, Republican slime ball.
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phillysuse Donating Member (683 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 09:27 PM
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2. Roberts is a Preparation H
Harvard College
Harvard law school
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CTLawGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 09:31 PM
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4. that just proves he is
an overambitious, self centered jerk who doesn't know how to have fun ;)
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 09:29 PM
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3. My husband said: "at least he's not stupid, and he's not from the South."
Pretty slim pickings but that's all I've got.
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CTLawGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 09:36 PM
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5. I restrained myself from making a snide observation
please continue.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 10:34 PM
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12. That's kind of ODD thing to say since Rehnquist isn't from the South
either and he's an evil bastard.

Got some more logic for us?

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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 09:37 PM
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6. I don't think there's any way to answer that right now.
I was just listening to Jeff Greenfield on CNN a few minutes ago. He said "it is true when Roberts argued against Row before the SC, he was representing his client, who at the time was GH Bush's WH. When he told the Senate Row was settled law, he was being confirmed for the Fed court, and the last thing you want to say is that you disagree with the SC court when you're in that position. So we don't know how he really feels."

I agree with that assessment. You have to remember though, the RW doesn't know either!

All the talking legal heads have very positive things to say about him as far as his ability, intelligence and personality. I suspect he will be confirmed, and we'll just have to watch what he does.
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liberalpragmatist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 09:38 PM
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7. He's not a total nutjob
Jeffrey Rosen picks out some redeeming features:

John Roberts, 49. U.S. Court of Appeals for the Washington, D.C., Circuit. Top of his class at Harvard Law School and a former law clerk for Rehnquist, Roberts is one of the most impressive appellate lawyers around today. Liberal groups object to the fact that, in 1990, as a deputy solicitor general, Roberts signed a brief in a case involving abortion-financing that called, in a footnote, for Roe v. Wade to be overturned. But it would be absurd to Bork him for this: Overturning Roe was the Bush administration's position at the time, and Roberts, as an advocate, also represented liberal positions, arguing in favor of affirmative action, against broad protections for property rights, and on behalf of prisoners' rights. In little more than a year on the bench, he has won the respect of his liberal and conservative colleagues but has not had enough cases to develop a clear record on questions involving the Constitution in Exile. On the positive side, Roberts joined Judge Merrick Garland's opinion allowing a former employee to sue the Washington Metropolitan Area Transit Authority for disability discrimination. He pointedly declined to join the unsettling dissent of Judge David Sentelle, a partisan of the Constitution in Exile, who argued that Congress had no power to condition the receipt of federal transportation funds on the Metro's willingness to waive its immunity from lawsuits. In another case, however, Roberts joined Sentelle in questioning whether the Endangered Species Act is constitutional under Congress's power to regulate interstate commerce. The regulation in question prevented developers from building on private lands in order to protect a rare species of toad, and Roberts noted with deadpan wit that "the hapless toad ... for reasons of its own, lives its entire life in California," and therefore could not affect interstate commerce. Nevertheless, Roberts appears willing to draw sensible lines: He said that he might be willing to sustain the constitutionality of the Endangered Species Act on other grounds. All in all, an extremely able lawyer whose committed conservatism seems to be leavened by a judicious temperament.

http://www.tnr.com/doc.mhtml?i=20041129&s=rosen112904
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 09:53 PM
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9. That's a good article. I appreciate seeing a little common sense here
tonight. There have been far too many people who wanted to slam this guy, even before they heard his name. I don't like that attitude. I wouldn't want the Pubs to slam every candidate a Dem President presented, and I'm not going to do it to Roberts!
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 09:40 PM
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8. Anyone brought forward by this traitorous administration is damned
by association.
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election_2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 10:24 PM
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10. He's not Edith Jones
Not that that's saying much...
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countingbluecars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 10:31 PM
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11. Tonight he thanked bush, his parents, and his wife.
He did not thank god or say "god bless America". Maybe he's not a total fundie type.
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