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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 11:19 PM
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Rove may have LIED to FBI
An Unlikely Story
Karl Rove's alibi would be easier to believe if he hadn't hidden it from FBI investigators in 2003.

White House deputy chief of staff Karl Rove did not disclose that he had ever discussed CIA officer Valerie Plame with Time magazine reporter Matthew Cooper during Rove’s first interview with the FBI, according to legal sources with firsthand knowledge of the matter.

The omission by Rove created doubt for federal investigators, almost from the inception of their criminal probe into who leaked Plame's name to columnist Robert Novak, as to whether Rove was withholding crucial information from them, and perhaps even misleading or lying to them, the sources said.

(snip)
Rove, too, has told federal investigators he did not know that Plame had a covert status with the CIA when he spoke with Novak, and Cooper, about Plame.

http://www.prospect.org/web/page.ww?section=root&name=ViewWeb&articleId=10016
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 11:37 PM
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1. Children, can we say "obstruction of justice"?
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:00 AM
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4. I can , Obstruction of justice
:hi:

rove is going to look great in the orange jumpsuit
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:34 AM
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6. I'd rather see him on the gurney waiting for the big blue needle......
but that seems unlikely.
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meti57b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 10:46 PM
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19. I'm against the death penalty. Lock him up in a super-max cell for life.
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mandomom Donating Member (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 08:56 AM
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17. Is that anything like conspiracy to commit
obstruction of justice? How about conspiracy to interfere with the duties of CIA officers in the protection of national interests? How about slander? We all know that a sitting president isn't immune to private civil action. Plame is not a public figure, ya know.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 10:18 PM
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18. I think Plame/Wilson are just biding their time ..................
til they launch a HUGE lawsuit.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 11:39 PM
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2. Big Time, as Dick Cheney would say. (nt)
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 11:51 PM
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3. oooo, if jail is good enuf for Martha, it's good enuf for Karl. n/t
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:20 AM
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5. Recommended
Don't let this get drowned out by SCOTUS. Both/and people. Both/and!

I was just coming over here to post this actually. Glad to see somebody already did.
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cestpaspossible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 02:25 AM
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7. Fitzgerald interviewed Bush in the Oval Office for one and a half hours
I wonder how forthcoming Bush was in that interview...did he lie to a Federal prosecutor conducting a criminal investigation?

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ngGale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 02:30 AM
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8. Bush didn't interview under oath from what I remember ...
anybody remember different?
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cestpaspossible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 02:39 AM
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9. Doesn't matter.
It is illegal to make a false statement to a federal agent conducting an investigation, whether or not you are under oath. Also the burden of proof for obstruction of justice is much, much lower that that for perjury.
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 03:41 AM
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10. BINGO!! Uncle Karl, you're going down.
There is no way in hell that Karl failed to lie, either to the gand jury (perjury) or to the investigators. Either way, he's going DOWN!!

Bake
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 03:44 AM
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11. He probably lied to the Grand Jury too
So at the very least Rove will be indicted for perjury.

We impeach liars don't we?

(Any government official can be impeached, not just the president.)
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 04:23 AM
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12. Rove is toast
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 08:41 AM
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13. A little morning kick
:hangover:
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 08:43 AM
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14. Isn't that why Martha Stewart went to jail? Lying to the Feds
although, in her case I think it was the SEC, but still...
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Justice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 08:43 AM
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15. If true, it undermines Rove's claim he did not know about Plame's
status cuz it makes it look like he was covering it up.

Are we to believe that Rove was that confident that reporters would go to jail to keep their sources confidential? That smug? I find it hard to believe b/c of his past record with Novak and b/c he barely knew Cooper (he might have been right about Judy).


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mandomom Donating Member (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 08:53 AM
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16. Next Bush will be
sending his GOP house and senate soldiers into battle to create a new shield law protecting all WH workers from 2000-2008 from ever having to divulge their activities to Justice or any law enforcement agency. It'll be his CommonSenseActforPatriotProtection, COMSAPP for ort. How else can he get his hard work done? Bork will cry, DeLay will scream and Frist will whine all the way to the Fox cameras to tell tales of maltreatment of mere leakers and liars.
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