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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:29 PM
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Has anyone thanked Ralph today?
Thirty or more years of Roberts.

Thanks, Ralph.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:30 PM
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1. Thanks, Ralph.
Fucking asshole...
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 01:56 PM
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18. yeah, thanks ralph, you pr**k
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:42 PM
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2. Ditto. Good point.
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choie Donating Member (899 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:45 PM
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3. I'm sorry for the question, but who's Ralph?
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:49 PM
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4. This fuckwad
Not the guy on the right .........
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Flubadubya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:50 PM
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5. Nader
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choie Donating Member (899 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:56 PM
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6. although I totally agree with that -
it's the americans who voted for bush who are to blame.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 01:53 PM
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16. Funny. I thought the original poster meant Ralph Reed
We need to thank him and his bible thumping zombie followers even more
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 01:21 PM
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7. Mister "No Difference"?
Yeah, thanks for everything!
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 01:23 PM
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8. But, Nader voters were just exercising their right to choose!
JUST LIKE BUSH IS DOING NOW!!!!!
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CWebster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 01:33 PM
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9. So was Kerry
when he decided that winning wasn't worth his while.

and a slim win it was even with all of us ABBers lining up.

Thanks Kerry.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 01:42 PM
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12. Wait a second now, start your own Kerry-hating thread!
:spank:
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 01:34 PM
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10. Is this the "I don't believe in election fraud" thread?
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 01:41 PM
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11. No, but it is the thread where we can extend our heartfelt
sentiments to the person who sold out his principles to the Rs in addition to facilitating their election fraud. I seem to recall that the esteemed Mr. Nader took money from the Rs. I have no respect for him and hold him in lower regard than * even, because he knew better. So many people have suffered because of his duplicity. He did not have the support it took to win but was still willing to sell the nation out and for what? What has he and the Green Party really gained in this prolonged debacle? What has the nation lost?:
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 01:45 PM
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13. I never expected him to win. Never expected Gore to "lose". At the time I
voted for Ralph it seemed the perfect moment to cast that vote of dissent.. to tell the Dems that they aren't left enough for me, AND keep my own party alive in my state. (You do know that's how ballot status and party life has to be maintained, right, by garnering a certain percentage of the vote?)

But ** stole it and now instead of dying a death of a thousand cuts we get a slash across the throat.

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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 01:52 PM
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14. Nader was complicit in throwing two elections because of his
conniving with the Rs behind the scenes. Nader is just as much a user and abuser as any other politician. He's no saint. Where is he now?
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 01:52 PM
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15. So he's no saint. Do you vote for candidates based on their saintliness?
Edited on Wed Jul-20-05 01:53 PM by GreenPartyVoter
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 01:54 PM
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17. Obviously, not since I didn't vote for
Ralph.
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 01:57 PM
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19. That's a pretty pathetic excuse...
considering there were many more votes lost to Nader, than were stolen by Bush.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 02:08 PM
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20. More dems crossed over for * than for Nader in Florida.
Why don't you sort out the voters in your own party before you go after other parties?
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 02:11 PM
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21. He's not going after other parties...
He/She is going after Nader.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 02:14 PM
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22. More specifically.. Nader voters. And at the time of 2000 Nader was the
Edited on Wed Jul-20-05 02:15 PM by GreenPartyVoter
nominee for my party.

So yes, it's parties too.

We can sit around and debate whether or not people have the right to vote the way they want.. or we can backburner this issue until after we bring down the BFEE.

I vote for the latter.
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 02:17 PM
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23. What ever makes you feel better...
You are just as responsible as helping Bush win as Bush voters. Hiding behind, 'people have the right ot vote the way the want' certainly doesn't make me feel any better.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 02:21 PM
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25. Editing because my last post was too snippy. What I will say here
Edited on Wed Jul-20-05 02:34 PM by GreenPartyVoter
instead is that I voted for Kerry in the last election. Or rather I voted against Bu$h via Kerry ebcause I wasn't hearing a lot that I wanted to. (I was hoping that he was running right but would govern left. But we'll never know now.) Not only did I vote for Kerry I pushed a lot of other fellow greens toward voting for him too, on the off chance that ** might not get to steal this one.

So I am feeling bitter because I sold out my own party.. and didn't even get Kerry in return. Losing those Green votes matters where I live. We need to garner a certain percentage of the vote to remain a party. And here in Maine, where we have voluntary publicly funded elections, this means we can actually get Greens into office, so it's not just a moot exercise in screaming for chance to vote for what we want. We can actually vote for who we want and get that person into office. (To a degree. We still have to deal with the vote splitting issue even now. We came closer to getting instant runoff voting but because of the proce tag it got shot down. Again. *sigh*)
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 02:18 PM
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24. Uh oh.
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