Bush family investing in solar technology companies

[Bluesplayer]

According to recent SUC filings, the Bush family is moving all of their oil-related investments to the solar technology industry.

In a related story, the governments of the Bahamas and Jamaica have begun planning for an American invasion to seize control of their sunshine fields.

[Deja Q]

1. I hope the filth fail.

Sorry but the BFEE, Reagan, Nixon, Clinton, and all the other politicians over th4e last 26 years FUCKED UP ROYALLY when it came to setting mandates to get us off of oil. They deserve to be in the same boat as the rest of us. Period.

[RPM]

40. fucked up royally....no - fucked us royally is more like it

they played us.

kept us hooked on oil so they could make their money that way while holding down alternatives until they had enough money to monopolize that.

they fucked us good and hard - and they meant to do it all along.

they'll be ready for peak oil - so that we can become fruther indebted / enslaved to them.

[havocmom]

2. Gee, if they had done this decades ago...

we'd already have the infastructure in place to deal with the facts about oil being a finite resource.

Seems they kept pooh-poohing the voices of progressives on alternative enegry sources until they could find a way to profit from it. Somebody must've invented a way to meter the sunshine...

Also seems that the oil crunch is coming soon if the oily Bushes are making this sort of concession to reality.

[FreedomAngel82]

13. Exactly

I've also heard reports at Cheney's place in Wyoming that he has solar energy all over the place and he's VERY prepared.

[havocmom]

18. We know some rich people who have built VERY strange home compounds

around Montana too. Lots of self-sufficiency stuff, renewable power from sun, earth, water and wind, huge food supplies being brought in, tens of thousands cubic yards of concrete poured...
And these are the same movers & shakers who laugh and point at 'loonies in the boonies' survivalist types while telling the general population 'all is well, just go shopping and play video games.' They work mighty hard to convince unemployed and underemployed US citizens the economy has never been stronger while working in a frenzy, 24/7, to steal every buck they can for themselves.

There is trouble brewing. And I think it goes beyond a bad year for stock investors.

I just took a drive outside of town today, to look at the wheat crop in nearby fields. The weather has been kind and the wheat shows about 60 bushels per acre which is about 3 times the normal production for this area. That's the good news. The bad news: They are just bailing it all for hay. Diesel fuel is so high that nobody seems interested in combining the grain to take it to market. Just too expensive to go through the steps to turn those beautiful amber waves of grain into food for Americans' tables.

If you have a yard or a flowerpot, learn to grow a vegetable or two. Might check the library for books on canning too. And remember, Soylant green is...

[texanwitch]

19. I remember seeing Soylant Green at the movies as a kid even then

that movie sent chills up my spine.

This is why I have a place in the country. My Grandparents went though the Depression of the 30's and they made sure we( the grandkids) knew how to can, and grow food.

[havocmom]

21. As 'women of the earth' you, me and our scattered sisters will need

to pass much knowledge on to young people. I work to encourage youngsters to 'get their hands in the dirt' and try to make their time in my wee garden pleasant enough that they will have fond memories and keep their hands in the dirt. It might make their lives more tolerable as the world changes from the one they were born into as free citizens morphs into the one the Corporate Rulers are herding them toward.

I remember my cousin having 6 lovely peach trees removed because "they were dirty" and thought how that would have appalled our grandmother. The waste of it all and the horror of having a philosophy in which the plants which sustain us and produce food was considered 'dirty'. Gads, what a silly, stupid woman my highly educated cousin is. Shop til ya drop is a drug too many are addicted to.

Our grandparents understood that cycles happen. Our parents tried to forget. The wise among us remember and pay attention.

[texanwitch]

25. Your so right, I have taught my younger family members how to

grow a garden and can. Chickens are easy to raise, I know because that was my job in the summer when I stayed with my grandparents.

My grandmother had fruit trees, and grew herbs as well.

I remember the stories my grandparents told me of the Depression, the only cash money they would have sometimes was my grandfathers Army pension. He was wounded in the leg, but he said that money small as it was paid the taxes on the farm.

I wouldn't like to have to live in the city if things go bad.

[htuttle]

34. Here in Madison, I recently learned of a new city ordinance...

...allowing city residents to keep a small number of chickens in their yards within city limits. I saw a flyer at our local food coop advertising classes on raising chickens at home to take advantage of this new ordinance.

First thing I thought: "Somebody has been thinking ahead!"

[LaPera]

3. Bush's ranch in Crawford is an alternative energy dream house.

It utilizes solar power, wind power and hydro power...It's a very self-sufficient ranch.

[Bluesplayer]

4. It's not a ranch.

It's a movie set. Bush is not a rancher, he's an asshole.

The whole "ranch thing" is just another lie, promulgated to make us think he's some kind of "man of the soil" who, reluctantly, left his ranch to serve humanity.

[LaPera]

10. Yes Bush is an asshole fake cowboy huckster puppet etc.-FACT REMAINS...

The ranch is alternative energy hi-tech dream...

"The ranch was designed "in harmony with the landscape." To reduce heating and cooling needs, prevailing winds and temperatures were taken into account in situating the building. The house also uses two lesser-known environmentally friendly technologies: geothermal heating and wastewater recycling."

"The ranch’s passive solar design, in addition to the geothermal heating and cooling system, (as well as wind power) allow it to reap much of its indoor and poolside climatic equilibrium from renewable energy sources independent of the electricity grid."

On edit: Quotation marks!

[EC]

11. I tell this to repuges all the time, with the addition of

he believes in solar and other alternatives as long as it is for his home, but not for the rest of us...It gets them thinking about why he hasn't promoted it for the rest of us....



By the way - last night on I Want That, they showed new roofing shingles that are solar cells and create enough energy to sell back to the electric company (on an all electric home) Said the price is about $20,000. for the unit (enough shingles to do one home)

[LaPera]

12. Well, I don't know how much Bush himself, had to do with the alternative

energy aspects of the ranch, or if he just bought it that way...

However, can you imagine the strides we could of made all these years in clean, efficient alternative energy sources, if just a tenth of the money went to developing new alternative energy sources, that they GIVE to big oil companies and other polluting corporate energy producers from OUR tax dollars. This Is True Corporate welfare!

It's so sad, we could be so much further advanced if it wasn't for these right-wing corporate ASSHOLES in charge, like Reagan, The Bush's and to some extent even Clinton!

(I love the idea of those solar shingles though)

[EC]

22. It's been pissing me off the last 30 -35 years

we shouldn't even be using oil now, all the missed business opportunities missed. Especially during all this building boom we've had the last few years..There should have been incentives built in to tax code to customers of alternate fuels, can you imagine if all the new homes built were on solar and sold back excess energy to be spread to the grid?

[Yupster]

37. Bush bought empty land

He had the buildings built.

[Bozita]

42. The final nail in the home on the Bush "ranch" was pounded on Election Day

... 2000.

The "ranch" was a pig farm prior to W's purchase.

The home is all new as of 2000. All alternative energy sources on the "ranch" were contracted for by Bush or his reps.

Peak Oil? Who wants more proof?

[GracieM]

32. Why don't we all get those?

At least people in climates with enough sun. If your electric bill is $200/month, couldn't that be used to finance the installation. That is ignoring the selling back to the electric company...

I think I'm in the wrong business....

[EC]

35. I know, you could conceivably have the electric company

paying you if you generated enough energy (put another kit on the garage roof) become your own electric company...(sub- contractor)

[AntiCoup2K4]

5. Goddammnit, can't we get some laws passed to prevent this?

NOBODY from any oil company or other current energy monopoly should be allowed to invest in solar, hydrogen, biodiesel, or whatever. These fucking pieces of shit have manipulated the world long enough. It's time these greedy pieces of shit were forced into extinction.

[Gregorian]

14. Arco did it.

They bought a solar company and drove it into the ground.

[Yupster]

38. Enron ran the wind farms near me

They went into the ground but the windmills are still turning.

Now owned by Florida Electric or some name like that.

[htuttle]

33. That's the whole point of 'hydrogen' cars

A hydrogen infrastructure is far easier to monopolize than electricity alone.

If you could power your battery-electric vehicle up on any old electricity, who could monopolize it? It's pretty easy to make electricity.

But if you had to fill it up with hydrogen, now you have a whole new government-subsidized infrastructure to monopolize. Plus you have a use for some of the old oil you still might have around (the 'plan' at this point is to make hydrogen from petroleum products...).

[Karenina]

6. Carter put solar panels on the White House.

REAGAN had them dismantled as soon as he took office.

[AntiCoup2K4]

8. Hell, I'm surprised Reagan didn't put a nuclear reactor on the roof

That was his answer for everything... nuclear weapons...nuclear power...nuclear waste....nuke nuke nuke :nuke:

[GreenPartyVoter]

17. Because Raygun was a frickin know-nuthin jerk

[medeak]

7. good time to sell with price of crude n/t

[Bluesplayer]

9. I had hoped

that the reference to the "SUC" would have indicated that this post was fake news.

[LaPera]

15. Doesn't really matter if it invokes thoughts & ideas on clean renewable...

alternative energy sources, that we desperately need in this world of ours...

Then even in jest, your post was necessary and made it's point.

[GreenPartyVoter]

16. No surprise. Always watch the rich. They will milk every last red cent

out of something then move on to corner the market on a new area and screw the little guys over with it.

[funkybutt]

20. Do you have a link to the SUC filings?

I'd like to take a look

:hi:

[slor]

23. Are you serious?

Because, while I hate the lot of them (chimp family), I want to see a push in renewables BIGTIME!

[Karenina]

24. Y'all seem to refuse to get it.

These *co folks have built themselves "shelter" having lit the fuse for worldwide chaos. They've got bunkers, secret gub'mints, plans a-z while they go around whacking hornets' nests willy-nilly which will provide them the excuse to push the red button and "reduce the excess population." Please resume your shopping. Blue light on kids' Esprit jeans.

[realFedUp]

26. is that one of the timeshares bin Laden's hiding in?

these people aren't worth saving.

[applegrove]

27. Now Bush is not allowed to know what he is investing in. Isn't this

some sort of crime?

[earth mom]

28. The * family is no longer investing Oil but instead in Solar Power?!

:wtf:

As was posted upthread...The writing is on the wall...

Hope we all can manage to survive...

[Bluesplayer]

29. shameless kick.

[Vickers]

30. "seize control of their sunshine fields"

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[Booster]

31. That's probably because they know Halliburton's going down

big time and they've finally read about Peak Oil. If they were really friends, Bush would clue Cheney in on this.

[NNadir]

36. This is because solar technology is largely a scam.

It sounds good, but doesn't deliver what it promises.

This is rather reminiscent of a certain middle eastern war.

[Booster]

39. I agree that they have MADE solar technology a scam - anybody

who has bought a solar light for their garden knows what a piece of shit that turns out to be. It always glows, but doesn't put out enough light to even see your own foot, but a friend of mine had a solar hot water heater and that sucker worked good for years til she decided she wanted one of them new roofs that weigh a ton and can't be nailed into - she chose the roof over the solar.

[Bluesplayer]

41. One word - NASA

OK, OK, it's not really a word, but you get my point. We aren't flying loads of gasoline up into space to generate power, are we? No. Solar works. An alternate-energy industry that was allowed to compete with the heavily subsidized oil industry would find ways to develop technologies, create jobs, help the environment, stimulate economic growth and make compost-heap-size piles of cash.

Someday, either the oil will be gone, or we'll have to go to war with a billion and a half Chinese to get theirs. Either way, we'll need some alternatives then, and they aren't going to just happen overnight. Hmmm.... maybe we should start now....

[medeak]

43. link please... I think post a joke. can't find anything on it n/t

[webjamn]

44. Sounds like a scoop from The Onion