***Replay** CSPAN1 Joint Hearing on Nat Security Plame Leak***

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Starting NOW (3PM Central)

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1. Thank You And Recommending

Don't want anybody to miss it!

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2. I'm taping it right now!!!

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3. Schumer speaking now.

Outrage and Fury within the CIA.

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4. Saw some of this this am

it was real good stuff.

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5. Schumer

1) Suspend Sec Cleartance of Rove and Libby

2) Bush* should FIRE anyone who leaked

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6. Thanks!

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7. Waxmann

Love the "Axemann"

I voted for the WAR because I was mislead about Atomic Weapons in Iraq!

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8. Watch it if you missed it!!!

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9. Waxmann

bush* admn. responede to the TRUTH with a smear campaign that harmed National Security.

There wasn't 1 leak, but MORE than 11 leaks targeted at smearing Wilson.

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10. Waxmann

President ignoring his responsibilities,
and Congress refusing to do its job!

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11. Conyers

:yourock:

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12. John CDonyers on n ow (3:22 Central)

91 members of congress joined together to ask the President to command Rove to "step forward" to explain his role, or resign.
Bush and Rove refused.



Watch Over-the-Net here:

http://www.c-span.org/watch/

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13. Louise Slaughter on now.

WOW. What a lineup. THESE are the REAL Democrats....The OPPOSITION Party...The TRUE Patriots!

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14. Slaughter

Grouping it all together!
Abu-Ghraib
DSM
Plamegate

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16. Slaughter uses the T word.

at worst, TREASON!

aided by Republicans in Congress!!!!!!

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15. She said "treason"

:yourock: :woohoo:

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17. This small group of DEMOCRATS....

..IS the reason I am still a Democrat.
FUCK the bush* appeasers and Republican-Lites!!!!!!

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24. right on bvar ~ (though im a green i do know exactly what youre saying)

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18. Slaughter:

The questions MUST be asked:
Is it possible that Bush* or Cheney was involved?

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20. Slaughter:

Far worse than Watergate.
National Security compromised in "Time of WAR"!!!!

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19. Slaughter just

asked whether Bush and Cheney are involved :wow:

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21. Slaughter:

Bush* broke his promises (regards to Rove leaking)

Abuses of Power in the very Heart of our Democracy

Justice and Responsibility in the White House has fallen by the wayside.

America deserves more than "No Comment"!

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23. Rep Inslee:

Nobody died in Watergate!
Over 1700 Americans have dies in Iraq.

Joe Wilson a hero for confronting SAaddam when he took ALL of his people out of Iraq before 1st Gulf War. Called a hero by GHWBush*.

Wilson deserves better than sliming by bush*.

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25. Inslee:

Bush* "with held the Truth" (LIED)

Inslee is HOT!!!!
America deserves better!!

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26. Dorgan

Introducing wittnesses.

ALL heavy CIA Background.

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28. Larry Johnson, former CIA Analyst: 3:39PM Central

Cia is Non-Partisan. Mix Repubs and Dems.

One witness was president of Young Republicans.

Introducing Col Lang.
Retired senior officer Special Forces, VietNam,
Defense Intelligenge Officer of Middle East.


http://www.c-span.org/watch/

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29. Col. Patrick Lang

former Defense Intelligence Officer for Middle East:

Plame leak an assault on the Intelligence Agencies.

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22. Inslee up

Holt coming up later

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27. thank you everyone for the details - they are saying the crucial stuff

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30. Col. Lang:

The obligation to protect covert assets is ABSOLUTE!

If the agent in the field cannot trust their superiors to protect them, people won't accept recruitment.
TRUST BROKEN by Bush* Administration WORLDWIDE!

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31. Col. Lang

The administration BROKE the TRUST for trivial reasons.
Shock heard around the World.

Mentioned Congress abdication of responsibility also.

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32. Johnson:

Plame STILL an agent. Cannot defend herself publicly.

The attack on her is the MOST vicious by a group of MEN on a woman who cannot defend herself. "BULLIES"!!!

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33. Johnson:

Plame WAS covert agent...STILL a CIA Officer. As long as she is an CIA officer, she is protected by the laws about outing assets.


Plame DID NOT SEND Wilson to Niger. She didn't HAVE the authority.
Cheney DID request info on Niger.

Bush* "Flipp--Flopped"!!!!! :evilgrin:

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34. Jim Marcinkowski, Fromer CIA Case Officer.

Will the USA EVER recover TRUST?

Undisputed Facts:

1) the US has irreparably DAMAGED the ability to gather information.
THE US Government EXPOSED the identity of an agent.
Officials REFUSED to take responsibility, jeopardizing the SAFETY of the American People!

2)No matter the DEGREE of cover (deep agent or paper pusher) the cover is inviolate. If Case Officer is exposed, their WHOLE network is exposed.

3)If cover cannot be guaranteed, overseas assets WILL NOT WORK FOR US.

How can we build networks when OUR OWN Governments expose assets.

DAMAGE FAR BEYOND Plame and Wilson!

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36. Marcinkowski:

Failure to take responsibility by the GOVERNMENT and the MEDIA continues to damage assets and recruituing of assets overseas EVERY DAY GETS WORSE!! Undermining the ability of US to PROTECT ourselves!!!

MEDIA and ADMINISTRATION!!!!


If you don't get CSPAN, watch Over-The-Net:
http://www.c-span.org/watch/

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37. Marcinkowski:

The US Public being purposely DISTRACTED by disacussion of MINUTIA (Media). The people overseas are NOT fooled by the distractions!!!

The people engaged in distracting the public from THE MAIN ISSUE are DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE for the continuing deterioration of the public safety!!!

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35. Holy Crap!

This is amazing testimony. I swear to god...I think Bush and the rest of the cabal are finished. End of Story!

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38. And they are repeating it again tonight at 8

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39. David MacMichael, former CIA Case Officer:

Responsibility of Congress is to reveal the TRUTH, and not let the system be used for partisan political advantage.

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40. Dorgan:

Explaining NOC.
Worked overseas without official cover, NO immunity if arrested.
Great risk and courage.

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41. Dorgan:

Outing Plame exposed her cover company, had ripples AROUND THE WORLD!

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42. WTF????

Interrupted by a police officer???!!!!

Someone called in a False Alarm to disrupt the hearings.
They knew it was a flase alarm, and are continuing

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43. Waxman:

Summarizing events.
You will just have to see this.
If wasn't so serious, it would be funny. Waxman shaking head as in disbelief.
Comedy of errors and lies in bush* administration from False info on WMD to outing Plame.

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44. Marcinkowski:

I've been in government service for 30 years, and I've NEVER seen ANYTHING like this.
NOTHING is being done, and assets overseas are WATCHING this!
Safety of Americans being jeopardized daily!


NOTHING BEING DONE!!!!

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45. Waxman:

Nothing DONE for YEARS.
Bush* promised to take action, but did NOTHING.
TRUST DESTROYED!!!!

Inaction sends the message!

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46. Waxman, Slaughter, Dorgan, Conyers.

I'll follow them to the gates of HELL.
FUCK the Repug lites and bush* appeasers!!!!!

THANK GOD there are a handful of REAL Democrats!

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47. Nothing but contempt for these kinds of Democrats:

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48. MacMichael:

Mentioned Chalabi and veiled reference to Miller(?), poilitcs with an agenda?

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49. Slaughter:

Didn't realize how widespread the damage was.

Clarified that all who have access to classified info are schooled and sign a form about non-disclosure.
Can't see any way out for these people. Force of LAW should be fully applied to those who did this damage!

Slaughter apologized to our agents.

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50. Rep. Rush Holt D-New Jersey:

Would this have been dealt with differently in the past?

How would other countries have dealt with this?

How unusual is this event?

Col Lang:
Seen it before, usually low level cocktail party stuff, BUT THIS IS DIFFERENT! Deliberate disclosure at the Center of Gov. is UNHEARD of!



Marcinkowski:
Different in this case is we are NOT ALLOWED to "turn this around" because we are not allowed to dialog or debate with this level of government. HUGE! I can no longer go to the White House with information.



MacMichael:
Watergate was "careless", this is deliberate.


This is precident setting. Nothing to compare to in the past.



I wish there was a Republican who would stand up and call this an "Ugly Dog". Where are the republicans with integrity who will stand UP? I watched McCain sell out last night.(said as a republican)


Too fast to keep up.
Watch the replay!

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51. Waxman:

Instead of taking action, the RNC is issuing "talking points" to further attack Plame and Wilson. LIES.

Highlighting Republican Leadership and Talking Points. Political dirty tricks, partisan attacks INSTEAD of dealing with the problems.

HOT!

Marcinkowski:
An AGENT at the CIA is COVERT until the day they walk out of the door. Doesn't matter if you are sitting at a desk.
Incredulous that the Republican Party is involved in this.
Thw WORLD is watching!

Waxman:
Talking Point,,, "Joe Wilson lied about Cheney sent him to Niger"......
Even if this is correct, doesn't justify OUTING of Plame.

Lang:
Irrelevant. Wilson could have had the impression that Cheney sent him.
There is a whole string of Talking Points issued by THE REPUBLICAN PARTY that don't make any sense or have any relevance.

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52. Waxman: The BIG Picture

This is DIRECTLY related to the trumped up reasons to justify the WAR. This is WHY the republican Party is frantic in thier atrtempts to destroy Wilson.

(my words)Offers PROOF that contradicts the bush* claims. Also offers PROOF that bush* KNEW and LIED anyway.

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53. One of the GOOD things.

They are correctly blaming the entire REPUBLICAN PARTY...not just bush* and his merry band of sociopaths.

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54. Gavel closing hearings.

Post #38 above states that this hearing will be replayed at *PM tonight. I assume that is eastern time.

Don't Miss this!!!!!!

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55. I wish Cspan had written transcripts...nt