http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8666472/#storyContinuedMCCAIN: We all know why Karl Rove spoke to the reporters, because at least we know this, that he believed that Wilson was putting out false information concerning whether Dick Cheney sent him to Africa, which he didn't, whether there was actually some contacts between Saddam Hussein's regime and Niger on yellow cake, which the British still maintain that there was, and several other aspects that were, just simply—according to a study by our Intelligence Committee, were false, statements that Ambassador Wilson made. And so, it's understandable why Rove would say to a reporter, “Hey, look, the vice president did not send Wilson to Niger. It was done at the recommendation of his wife,” etcetera, etcetera. Now, whether, during that period of time, Karl Rove or anybody else in the White House leaked her name, I don't know the answer to that. I really don't. Now, they...
MATTHEWS: If it—so, if he did, do you think that's serious enough to fire him? The president, in the first instance, said they had to be taken care of, in the second instance, said, if they've been proven guilty of a crime. He's lowered the bar for acceptable behavior.
MCCAIN: Well, look, I can't be responsible for the comments of the president, but I do believe that every American has the right of presumption of innocence until proven guilty. Now, Karl Rove has stated that he did not do anything wrong and break any law. I take him at his word.