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sunnystarr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 03:53 PM
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Isn't this a CondeLIEsa LIE?
Press Gaggle with Ari Fleischer and Dr. Condoleeza Rice
Aboard Air Force One
En Route Entebbe, Uganda
12:15 P.M. (Local)
For Immediate Release
Office of the Press Secretary
July 11, 2003


DR. RICE: The IAEA reported it I believe in March. But I will tell you that, for instance, on Ambassador Wilson's going out to Niger, I learned of that when I was sitting on whatever TV show it was, because that mission was not known to anybody in the White House. And you should ask the Agency at what level it was known in the Agency.

Q When was that TV show, when you learned about it?

DR. RICE: A month ago, about a month ago.


Q Can I ask you about something else?

DR. RICE: Yes. Are you sure you're through with this?

(emphasis added)


As far as I know Joe Wilson's first TV appearance was on July 6, 2003, the same day his "What I Didn't Find in Africa" oped was printed in the NYT. That was only 5 days before CondeLIEsa LIES held that press conference on the trip to Africa aboard AF1. Not to mention the LIE that the mission wasn't known in the Agency or probably for that matter in the WH.

Maybe her mushrooms get her confused.
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Humor_In_Cuneiform Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 04:04 PM
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1. Easy answer: Was she talking? YES
Don't forget that she testified that if they had known the 9/11 attacks were coming, they would have moved heaven and earth to stop them. O8)

(Why would she know, since she only had a briefing that said Bin Laden determined to strike in US. PDB Aug 6, 2001?) :crazy:


If she would have moved heaven and earth to stop the attacks, why was she so uncomfortable, defensive, and reticent in discussing everything she was asked and confronted about during the 9/11 hearings?

:shrug:
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sunnystarr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 04:13 PM
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2. So this can be added to compendium of lies from her.
I think it's important to do that ... not as funny as bushisms but way more important.

It's times like this I wish I had learned MS Access ... but alas it sits on my puter untouched.
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Humor_In_Cuneiform Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 04:33 PM
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4. I imagine so
Is she also saying the IAEA International Atomic Energy Agency reported the attempted sale supposedly from Niger to Iraq?

That would be an even bigger lie, if so.

http://www.carnegieendowment.org/publications/index.cfm?fa=view&id=1595&proj=znpp

'Niger Uranium: Still a False Claim
By Joseph Cirincione

Publisher: Carnegie
Proliferation Brief, Volume 7, Number 12

Of all the controversies surrounding the non-discovery of WMD in Iraq, none has dominated the news cycle over the past year as much as the Niger uranium hullabaloo-and none has been so misconstrued by experts and pundits alike. A year ago, revelations by Joseph Wilson, a former ambassador sent to Niger to investigate whether Iraq attempted to purchase uranium from Iraq, forced the administration to recant its public statements on the subject. Now, with the Butler inquiry's conclusion that the British intelligence judgment was "well-founded" and the Senate Intelligence Committee's claim that Wilson's report had little impact on officials, some are calling for Wilson to publicly apologize. A little common sense shows that a Niger uranium sale-even if attempted-was always highly improbable and was never a serious threat.
Allegations Abound

In late September, a British white paper judged that "Iraq has . . . sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa, despite having no active civil nuclear power programme that could require it." In December 2002 and January 2003, several administration officials, including Condoleezza Rice and Donald Rumsfeld, repeated the allegation-without citing the British report. In his January State of the Union address, President Bush said the now-infamous sixteen words, "The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa."

Evidence Deflates

Iraq purchased uranium from Niger, Portugal and Brazil during the early stages of its nuclear program in the 1970s, but by the next decade halted these imports because it became self-sufficient in uranium production. In March 2003, Iraq had an inventory of over 500 tons of natural uranium and almost two tons of low-enriched uranium. This uranium was kept under IAEA seal and checked annually by the nuclear agency-theoretically unavailable to the Iraqi regime for use in a nuclear program.

No unclassified CIA assessment prior to 2002 discussed Iraqi attempts to acquire uranium from Africa, although most noted, "A sufficient source of fissile material remains Iraq's most significant obstacle to being able to produce a nuclear weapon." The now-declassified October 2002 National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) claimed, however, that Iraq "began vigorously trying to procure uranium ore and yellowcake," reportedly in Niger, Somalia, and the Democratic Republic of the Congo. The NIE said that "foreign government service" reports indicated that in early 2001 Niger and Iraq "reportedly were still working out arrangements for this deal, which could be for up to 500 tons of yellowcake," although the NIE said it could not confirm the reports on possible Iraqi uranium procurement. (The Department of State's intelligence bureau, INR, noted in a separate dissent: "the claims of Iraqi pursuit of natural uranium in Africa are . . . highly dubious.")

The primary evidence for the Niger uranium claim was a series of documents purporting to show a uranium purchase deal with Iraq. On March 7, 2003, IAEA Director-General Mohamed ElBaradei concluded that the documents provided to the IAEA by the United States were unsubstantiated and likely forged. He told the UN Security Council, "Based on thorough analysis, the IAEA has concluded, with the concurrence of outside experts, that these documents, which formed the basis for the reports of recent uranium transaction between Iraq and Niger, are in fact not authentic. We have therefore concluded that these specific allegations are unfounded."

.It was not until July 2003, however, that the administration acknowledged the problems with the forged documents-when Joseph Wilson revealed that he had visited Niger at the CIA's request in February 2002 to investigate the alleged uranium sale. Wilson said that he not only found the allegation "bogus and unrealistic," but said that his conclusions were likely forwarded to the vice president, who made the initial inquiry in a CIA briefing...'


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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 04:20 PM
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3. From what I remember
She said that "No one could have predicted what happened". Yet, we know that there was existing intelligence that said otherwise prior to 9/11.

She is quite a liar...and, up until recently, the Bush admin thought she was quite good at it. Wonder what they think now.

I really detest her.
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Humor_In_Cuneiform Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 04:34 PM
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5. I can't stand to listen to
her anymore than smirk or rover.

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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 05:12 PM
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8. Welcome to DU!
She speaks with such a forked tongue that I've come to refer to her as Contradicta. That's all she does.

Remember when she was mewling and whining all over the Sunday talk shows and everywhere else - "it was SIXTEEN WORDS!!!" As if this were a talking point (probably was) to minimize the flat-out LIE in the State of the Union address. It was SIXTEEN WORDS!!!" Wow, Contradicta, that PhD of yours is being put to good use: you can count to sixteen. I'm impressed. NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can a woman be a complete tool? I've only heard that applied to men. But she certainly qualifies.
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Lord_StarFyre Donating Member (592 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 05:11 PM
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6. Kindasleezy Lie?
...nah, never. She'd never lie...

She's so EVIL she believes everything that spews from dumbshitula's evil lips
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 05:11 PM
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7. Link
Edited on Sat Jul-23-05 05:12 PM by igil
Don't know if it was repeated on a tv show or not (these things tend to echo around a bit), but here's a WaPo June 12 '03 article:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&contentId=A46957-2003Jun11¬Found=true

'... Armed with information purportedly showing that Iraqi officials had been seeking to buy uranium in Niger one or two years earlier, the CIA in early February 2002 dispatched a retired U.S. ambassador to the country to investigate the claims, according to the senior U.S. officials and the former government official, who is familiar with the event. The sources spoke on condition of anonymity and on condition that the name of the former ambassador not be disclosed. ...

' "This gent made a visit to the region and chatted up his friends," a senior intelligence official said, describing the agency's view of the mission. "He relayed back to us that they said it was not true and that he believed them." ...

'The CIA's decision to send an emissary to Niger was triggered by questions raised by an aide to Vice President Cheney during an agency briefing on intelligence circulating about the purported Iraqi efforts to acquire the uranium, according to the senior officials. Cheney's staff was not told at the time that its concerns had been the impetus for a CIA mission and did not learn it occurred or its specific results."

Did Rice mean she heard about the mission to Niger, or she heard that it was *Wilson's* mission?

edited to fix date I attributed to the article
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