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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 08:22 AM
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"Bush's credibility is down the tubes and he doesn't seem to realize it."


President should fire Karl Rove

Whether or not there is crime and punishment in the outing of Valerie Plame, the president should keep his word and fire Karl Rove.

He made the statement that if any of his people leaked the information he would fire them. Now he's crawfishing on that statement by saying that if a crime was committed he would fire them. Bush's credibility is down the tubes and he doesn't seem to realize it. But then, what would Bush be without Rove? Getting rid of Rove would be like Bush getting a lobotomy.

If Rove were an honorable man, he would save the president the grief he's going through and buy himself a one-way ticket home.

Obviously there's another leaker in the White House or Judith Miller would not be sitting in jail to protect her source. What kind of man would sit back and let a reporter go to jail when he could come forward and admit that he was the leak? Most likely it's Dick Cheney's man Scooter Libby. There's very little that goes on in the White House that Rove and Libby are not privy to.

http://www.news-leader.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050725/OPINIONS03/507250318/1006

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greekspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 08:38 AM
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1. FROM SPRINGPATCH, MO? MY HOME TOWN!?!
Freeper central? The land of the Hatemongering Freeper? In the region voted most likely to have a crazy right wing extremist kidnap his grandchildren and hole up on his compound, then at trial call everyting a "Jew Conspiricy?" Good for Springpatch. Someday, maybe it will earn its full name, SpringFIELD.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 08:40 AM
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2. "...if Rove were an honorable man..." WTF?
Hardy Har Har
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 08:45 AM
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3. From what I have read Miller was supposed to have "Secret Clearance"
Was she on that flight to Africa with Colin Powell? She may have read the Memo first hand.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 08:49 AM
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5. Way back 69-73 when I was doing my time
They would never have given a mere reporter a secret clearance.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 08:46 AM
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4. "If Rove were an honorable man"
That line says it all-there is no honor in the bush crowd.
They can't even SPELL words like honor and integrity, much less know what they mean.
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 08:53 AM
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6. Bush is actively working AGAINST preserving credibility.
When the preservation of an employee's role counts more than your personal credibility, your jugment on everything is called into question. Bush seems unaware that he caused all of it!
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 09:23 AM
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7. Correction, it's not that Bush doesn't realize his credibility is shot
It's that he doesn't give a flying rat's ass that his credibility is shot.

And like the bully in a bad B-movie, he leans back against the jukebox, shifts his toothpick from one side of his smirking mouth to the other and issues a silent challenge: "What are you going to do about it . . . punk?"
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 06:22 PM
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11. My wish is that someday..
bush Does "give a flying rat's ass" and then IT'S TOO FREAKIN' LATE!
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 07:59 PM
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12. Correct gratuit
People don't realize that one of Bush's best traits is his discipline.

It makes him an aggravating but good campaigner. You can't get him off message. Listen to his debating style. He doesn't argue or debate. He has two or three points he wants to make, and he makes them over and over again regardless of whether they have anything to do with the question he's asked.

At the end of the debate, many will think he's a complete moron, but I bet the audience heard his three points.

Same with being president. He has the things he wants to do and he does them. He doesn't care about opposition or opinion polls or looking stupid or bad press. He doesn't even care whether his proposal has been proven to be wrong. He's not going to change his mind.

He's going to go plodding in the same direction until his last day in office.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 09:37 AM
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8. Dick Cheney and Bush are the kind that would let someone else
go to jail or war for them.
It's funny this guy actually thinks Bush is a decent human being...gosh, these guys are dull-witted.


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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 05:16 PM
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9. His handlers know it. They make him give speeches in front of a parade
of flags or in front of a backdrop of army. They never just put him out there himself. To deny the Downing Street Memo Blair (who somehow does have a little credibility) was flown in.

Perhaps George just thinks these changes are all because he is so popular that 'others' always want to be present & by his side. At least that is what they may be telling him.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 06:11 PM
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10. Bush** is a stupid a$$ but not a stupid man
The idea that for over four years Bush** has been kept out of the loop and mystified by what goes on around him requires a level of mental incompetence that would see him on a feeding tube. If he's not orchestrating all these backroom maneuvers and cover-ups he is certainly in on them and knows precisely what's what at all times. His back-pedaling on pledging to fire "anyone involved" in the Plame outing is proof.

Bush** has a clear understanding of right and wrong...and chooses wrong.
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