Which is worse: Democrats falling for pub propaganda or Dems tearing down

[patricia92243]

other Dems?

I have been guilty of both.

When I realize that I have fallen for pub crap, I could kick myself. And, of course being fooled by the pub garbage can lead to criticizing other Dems - which is a BIG no no!

I realize there is a fine line between pointing out why I honestly think other Dems should NOT vote for whichever candidate - because I don't want us to lose in the GE - and actually criticizing another Dem. I'm still not sure what is the answer to this.

I would be interested in how other people feel about these two important problems.

[vi5]

1. I think it's all a bunch of BS....

I think at least in this forum and in this primary race there's a lot of people talking about wanting what's best for the country but I've seen and read little from anyone that would lead me to believe that the large bulk of it is anything other than people investing too much in the concept of one individual and internalizing everything that happens to that candidate. The natural inclination with such vicarious projection is to lash out at others and in this case it is almost always other dem candidates.

And because of this I'm quite convinced and quite fearful that we are toast.

[Rich Hunt]

2. they're one and the same

...in effect. I'm supporting my candidate, with a couple of back-ups, but I'm staying out of it, pretty much, because I don't like what it's doing.

[WilliamPitt]

Evidence of a bad trend

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=194794&mesg_id=194794

Check the results for option #2.

[Walt Starr]

9. Just a note, Will

If you had "Other" as a choice when I first voted, I wouldn't have felt I was forced into choice 2 because I could not vote choice 1 with a clean conscience.

[WilliamPitt]

13. You weren't forced to vote at all

If you found the two available choices unpalatable, you should have abstained. No one put a gun to your head. Thus, my point.

[blm]

3. Hey, you lived and you learned.

That's the best any of us can do.

Your post is what it's all about. Congratulations for a giant leap forward.

[blm]

6. Here's how the propaganda team works

and how they've been doing it for over 30 years.


From Barnes and Noble:
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?AR=Y&cds2Pid=371&ean=9780060565237

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John Kerry enlisted in the Navy in February 1966, months before he graduated from Yale. In December 1967 Ensign Kerry was assigned to the frigate U.S.S. Gridley; after five months of service in the Pacific, with a brief stop in Vietnam, he returned to the United States and underwent training to command a Swift boat, a small craft deployed in Vietnam's rivers. In June 1968 Kerry was promoted to lieutenant (junior grade), and by the end of that year he was back in Vietnam, where he commanded, over time, two Swift boats. Throughout Tour of Duty Brinkley deftly deals with such explosive issues as U.S. atrocities in Vietnam and the bombing of Cambodia. In a series of unforgettable combat-action sequences, he recounts how Kerry won the Purple Heart three times for wounds suffered in action and was awarded the Bronze Star and the Navy’s Silver Star for gallantry in action.

When Kerry returned from Southeast Asia, he joined the Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW), becoming a prominent antiwar spokesperson. He challenged the Nixon administration on Capitol Hill with the antiwar movement cheering him on. As Kerry's public popularity soared in April-May 1971, the FBI considered him a subversive. Brinkley -- using new information acquired from the recently released Nixon tapes -- reveals how White House aides Charles Colson and H. R. Haldeman tried to discredit Kerry. Refusing to be intimidated, Kerry started running for public office, eventually becoming a U.S. senator from Massachusetts. But he never forgot his fallen comrades. Working with his friend Senator John McCain, he returned to Vietnam numerous times looking for MIAs and POWs. By the time Bill Clinton was elected president in 1992, Kerry was the leading proponent of "normalization" of relations with Vietnam. When President Clinton officially recognized Vietnam in 1995, Kerry's three-decade-long tour of duty had at long last ended.
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[LuminousX]

4. My rule

Don't initiate a negative conversation regarding a fellow Democrat. Much like what your mom or grandmom said, "If you can't say something nice, try harder."

If someone is in a reverie regarding a candidate, don't interrupt it with negative comments.

If someone engages in a substantive discussion regarding a candidate, feel free to bring up your points about that candidate that may be negative in nature, but if you do not have conclusive proof of a point, be willing to back down from it.

Never use a weapon someone you don't trust hands you.

[Snivi Yllom]

5. media whore destroying candidates

Passion among voters is never bad.

[mmonk]

7. Some

fall under both categories.

[Walt Starr]

8. I think about 55% of the Dems tearing each other down

is attributable to Dems being fed Repub propoganda.

It's sad we've fallen into their traps.

[blm]

11. I'd go up to 80% on that.

.

[Doctor_J]

10. I am ready for one of our guys

to drop all of the attacks (actually Clark & Edwards have abstained so far) and start attacking Bush. And not about little isolated policies, about his character - call him what he is, a lying, hypocritical, coward who never made an honest dollar in his life, who blames all his failings on others, and who can't be trusted as far as I could throw Michael Moore.

THIS is what will bring voters flocking to the polls in the primary and in the GE.

[bigtree]

12. sadly both are bad, and relevant

[maddezmom]

14. both equally bad n/t