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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:47 AM
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Who exactly is the primary group behind the anti-choice movement?
Dis this start out as a primarily Catholic movement? Is it an evangelical thing? Where did it come from?
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lynettebro440 Donating Member (950 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:51 AM
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1. Catholic & Christian rumble
over the past 30 years. Basically made up of white crazy radical men in war for the unborn child. That has always pissed me off, I don't think men need to be at the front of the line for the right of a baby. Until you can step in the shoes, you don't have an opinion.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:57 AM
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2. There are a whole group of them. This site
http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?pid=105

issued a list of:

Around the country, ideas that originated on the hard right are finding their way into the mainstream. In a number of cases, these ideas have become commonplace in American minds.

Organizations listed as hate groups by the Southern Poverty Law Center are indicated by an asterisk.



The American Cause
American Enterprise Institute
American Immigration Control Foundation*
The Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation
Castle Rock Foundation
Center for American Unity
Center for the Study of Popular Culture
Federation for American Immigration Reform
Free Congress Foundation
Institute for the Study of Man
Ludwig von Mises Institute
New Century Foundation*
John M. Olin Foundation
Pioneer Fund*
Rockford Institute
Scaife Foundations
U.S. Inc.

The site has info on all of them.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:57 AM
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3. depends on which part you refer to.
if you want the right wing extreme wacko portion, those that avocate assasinating doctors, that's Randall Terry's "Operation Rescue". They were the ones outside Terry Schaivo's (sp?) hospice with jesus on a trailer hitch.

If you want the most adamant antiabortionists who don't PUBLICLY avocate killing doctors, but who like to call abortion murder while supporting illegal wars and capital punishment, then you'd be looking for "evangelicals" (a bad name for that group, but it has become common usage term). their objection is primarily misogynist and the desire to enforce their own "morality" on others.

If you want firmly opposed to abortion on procreation grounds people, that would be the catholics. although they can be just as militant, for the most part they are simply against the act of abortion itself, with less trappings of wanting to control women in society in a more general sense. I also think they are less obsessed with making non-catholics follow their entire morality, except on this one issue.

I say this as a noncatholic, but this is how it breaks down IMHO.
If the only people opposed to abortion were catholics, the debate would be a lot saner, though it would still be deadlocked.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 08:25 AM
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4. I should note Catholics are fairly consistent, unlike other groups.
They are anti-choice and anti-birth control, but also anti-death penalty and anti-war. They at very least aren't as hypocritical as the Evangelists.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 08:29 AM
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6. exactly. that's what I was trying to say by mentioning the evangelical
hypocrisy.

thanks for making it more clear.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 08:31 AM
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7. and they were not on the front lines
of the real terrorist actions. there were individuals that were out there, joseph schiedler comes to mind. and the knights of columbus in my town had a billboard in front of their hall. but i don't remember the church itself taking a hard line and openly meddling in politics until the movement had gathered steam. these are personal recollections, tho. i could be all wet.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 08:27 AM
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5. You mean the forced pregnancy movement?
NGU.


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