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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 08:42 PM
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Teresa Heinz Kerry on cspan right now 8:40 eastern
john kerry's wife teresa heinz kerry is on cspan right now. it's on live right now.
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Monte Carlo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 08:46 PM
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1. If Teresa ever became the first lady, she'd be more hated than Hillary.
She's a lot more outspoken that Hillary Clinton ever was.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 08:49 PM
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2. nay
more loved.
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 08:53 PM
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4. Not if she made ketchup free
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auburnblu Donating Member (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 08:54 PM
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5. Question I would ask her
What's the fuel economy of her private plane? How many flights she and John K made a year before he started running. I understand the need to maybe fly on a private jet with a campaign schedule, but he wasn't running three years ago. Ask if all the trips were really needed. Explain to her the concept of excessive consumption. When John Kerry talks about conservation of energy, the first word that comes to my mind is hypocrite. Sorry if this offends anyone.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 08:59 PM
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7. I hope you're kidding...
You're concerned about someone's fuel mileage on their private plane?

Do you drive a car or are you on a mule? Oooh, wait, mules take craps...
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auburnblu Donating Member (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 09:03 PM
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8. I am serious
Why aren't you. If someone is talking about fuel conservation and they take frivalous trips around the country all the time on a private jet, wasting who knows how much fuel, hell yes that concerns me. Do they get an exception because they are rich? Don't you get pissed off when you see someone driving a behemoth Exercursion.
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SahaleArm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 09:04 PM
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9. The mule is having some issues...
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 09:04 PM
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10. mule crap= methane
Control of methane emissions would reduce both global warming and air pollution

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2002-10/agu-com100902.php
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Monte Carlo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 09:14 PM
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12. The use of fuel is not a crime, you know.
Jet engines are much more energy efficient than car engines, Mr. Know-It-All. Excessive consumption? The whole country is guilty of excessive consumption, so let's not pick and choose because some may use more. Besides, let's worry about the message, and not the messenger.
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auburnblu Donating Member (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 09:33 PM
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14. Oh please
Give me a break. You have the nerve to claim that flying on a private jet is being fuel efficient, holy smokes. Yes it is an issue, if someone is telling the public to conserve, they should also be conservation minded. I bet some on here get tired of seeing W drive his truck on his ranch. Does she get a pass because she is rich? You seem to want to not give a damn. Americans are big time excessive consumers, and she and John Kerry for the last decade have probably been in the top 1% of those excessive consumers, so yes to me that is an issue.

Let me guess, you're a huge fan of do as I say, not as I do.

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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 09:42 PM
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15. She is involved with a lot of good causes and I think that's awesome
How is she supposed to travel here and there all around the country for all of her advocacy?

Did you watch her speak? Did you listen? Hope so.
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auburnblu Donating Member (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 09:50 PM
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16. She could fly commercial?
Oh the horror of that thought. A lot of people feel that Bush is out of touch with the common man, well Kerry is going to have a hell of a time convincing most Americans he's in touch these days with the common guy either. Dean, even though he's as much of an Ivy Leaguer as Bush and comes from a pretty well off background, i.e. the Dean in Dean Witter, I never get an out of touch with the average person vibe from him. Kudos to her for being involved, but on the environment, please, there are many others I'll listen to first.

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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 09:53 PM
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17. good
at least, as you say, you will listen to someone.
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hedda_foil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 12:53 AM
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18. I agree with your point but Dean isn't of Dean Witter.
Dean Witter was one guy (first name=Dean last name=Witter) Howard's dad was an executive at the firm. No relation.

Kerry is one of the Forbes family, an heir to part of the Forges family fortune, and with family marriages into all the blueblood Boston families for centuries. That's before he married Theresa.

Dean's family was certainly well off (though he lives a much more middle class lifestyle than most doctors, whatever their background) but nowhere near the same league of moneyed aristocracy of Kerry's.
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SahaleArm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 03:00 AM
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20. Dean and Dean Witter...
POLITICS Dean and Dean Witter: Related? FORTUNE Monday, October 13, 2003 By Melanie Shanley

Ever since Howard Dean began running for President, his lineage has created some mystery. In August bloggers at sites like rightnation.us and freerepublic.com misinterpreted a Jimmy Breslin column in Newsday saying that Dean's "father was the head of Dean Witter stocks." They figured Dean was a Dean Witter scion. Nope. Dean Witter was one guy; he founded his firm in 1924 with his brother Guy Witter.

So who were Dean's ancestors? The family, which settled in Sag Harbor in the 1600s, had become wealthy by the early 1900s: Press clips say Dean's great-grandfather had a box at the Metropolitan Opera and toured New England by auto. His grandfather Herbert followed the family path from Yale to Park Avenue to Wall Street (he was a governor of the NYSE and a member of exclusive clubs like East Hampton's Maidstone), then went on to be a vp at Pan Am. Dean's father, also a Yalie and Park Avenue denizen, ran dozens of branch offices for Reynolds Securities before it was bought by Dean Witter in 1978, then stayed with the firm till 1986. Young Howard was also a stockbroker before becoming a doctor. Lest confusion remain, we confirmed that he is no relation to James Dean, either.

From the Oct. 27, 2003 Issue
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auburnblu Donating Member (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 05:16 AM
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22. I stand corrected
Thanks for the clarification.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 01:04 AM
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19. Bzzzt... Dean is NOT the Dean in Dean Witter
Thanks for playing...

Do you use FedEx, the US Postal Service or UPS?

They USE PLANES!!! AHHHHHHHHHH!

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auburnblu Donating Member (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 05:14 AM
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21. Too true
Edited on Tue Dec-23-03 05:20 AM by auburnblu
Got that confused, his father was an exec at Dean Witter Renolds. Which I believe is the same Dean Witter. Yes I realize Fedex uses planes to do business. Amazing how some are just sooooo eager to defend excessive consumption, why? Just curious. Geeez I wonder why the Green party is not towing the Democratic party line these days, could it be that they believe EVERYBODY should be true fans of the environment and believe in conservation. I give up. Maybe I'll go out and buy an Execursion tomorrow.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 08:51 PM
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3. I absolutely love Teresa
Edited on Mon Dec-22-03 08:56 PM by zulchzulu
Really... She's amazing.

Speaks 6 languages, knows all about the political games around the World, donates her time and money towards human rights, civil rights and the environment, has been involved in the UN since she was 24. And best of all, she has a great sardonic wit and wonderful sense of humor. I've met her a few times and even made a DVD of a visit she made in a midwestern college town recently.

If interested in a copy, email zulchzulu@yahoo.com
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auburnblu Donating Member (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 09:05 PM
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11. She does donate a lot of time, which is great.
Edited on Mon Dec-22-03 09:05 PM by auburnblu
She really is involved with a lot of good causes and I think that's awesome.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 08:57 PM
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6. thanks, listening now.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 09:25 PM
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13. great line about the million dollar landing by bush*
Paraphrasing, but the point was we have a long way to go in the US in accomplishing the mission of our veterans.
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 05:42 AM
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23. She's alright in my book
How could she have ever been married to a Republican?! Unless he was one of the vanishing breed of reasonable, civic-minded Republicans.
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