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The Blue Knight
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Tue Jul-26-05 09:49 PM Original message |
I am a proud supporter of the Democratic Leadership Council. Sue me. |
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Jacobin
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Tue Jul-26-05 09:52 PM Response to Original message |
1. Well, here's some more, just to get it all out at once for ya: |
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Cha
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:43 PM Response to Reply #1 |
49. I read that on billmon's earlier.. |
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Arkana
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Tue Jul-26-05 09:53 PM Response to Original message |
2. Not everyone who dislikes the DLC says those things about those two. |
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The Blue Knight
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Tue Jul-26-05 09:56 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. They don't want to sell out pro-choice Democrats. |
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MisterLiberal
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:13 PM Response to Reply #4 |
26. So I guess you are saying that |
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renaissanceguy
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Wed Jul-27-05 09:01 AM Response to Reply #26 |
88. and these anti-choice whackjobs |
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SaveElmer
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:58 PM Response to Reply #2 |
56. Interesting your comment about their pro-choice position... |
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tsuki
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Wed Jul-27-05 04:06 AM Response to Reply #2 |
79. You forgot "don't ask, don't tell." |
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Dr Fate
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Tue Jul-26-05 09:54 PM Response to Original message |
3. I agree- lets talk about everything in terms of 2006 strategy. |
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The Blue Knight
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Tue Jul-26-05 09:58 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Look, I happen to believe the center is ripe for the picking. |
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Dr Fate
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:06 PM Response to Reply #5 |
18. I pretty much agree...the question is how to do it... |
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PassingFair
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:12 PM Response to Reply #5 |
24. The problem is: |
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MisterLiberal
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:16 PM Response to Reply #5 |
28. What? |
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fujiyama
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Tue Jul-26-05 11:28 PM Response to Reply #5 |
71. I'm willing to make peace with the DLC |
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SeanQ
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Wed Jul-27-05 11:04 AM Response to Reply #71 |
115. Amen! |
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SCDem
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Wed Jul-27-05 11:01 AM Response to Reply #5 |
114. That is the Democratic problem |
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Eloriel
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Wed Jul-27-05 09:02 AM Response to Reply #3 |
89. But that's the problem, Dr Fate |
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Vickers
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Tue Jul-26-05 09:59 PM Response to Original message |
6. "the DLC produced the only 2 term Democratic President since FDR" |
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tsuki
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Wed Jul-27-05 04:07 AM Response to Reply #6 |
80. Tried to sink Dean, Michael Moore and other Democrats. The |
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smiley_glad_hands
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Tue Jul-26-05 09:59 PM Response to Original message |
7. The DLC is the |
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The Blue Knight
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:02 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Corporations are always going to have a hand in politics. |
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wli
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:13 PM Response to Reply #11 |
25. unless they're legislated out of it |
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MisterLiberal
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:19 PM Response to Reply #11 |
31. So your argument could be summarized as |
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Hippo_Tron
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:40 PM Response to Reply #11 |
47. McCain/Feingold was passed under a Republican administration |
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rman
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Wed Jul-27-05 05:15 AM Response to Reply #11 |
82. It used not to be like that: |
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smiley_glad_hands
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Wed Jul-27-05 08:54 AM Response to Reply #11 |
86. Seems like we Democrats have been getting fucked |
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SaveElmer
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Tue Jul-26-05 11:04 PM Response to Reply #7 |
61. Question about that... |
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smiley_glad_hands
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Wed Jul-27-05 08:56 AM Response to Reply #61 |
87. You have a star so you can do your own search here at DU. eom |
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SaveElmer
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Wed Jul-27-05 10:17 AM Response to Reply #87 |
101. Thanks, appreaciate the help!!! |
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noamnety
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:00 PM Response to Original message |
8. I don't really know what a "moderate" democrat is |
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:03 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. I think that's the whole point of being a moderate/centrist. |
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noamnety
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:07 PM Response to Reply #12 |
19. Well, that cleared nothing up |
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Mairead
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Wed Jul-27-05 07:15 AM Response to Reply #19 |
85. It means "I'm a Republican at heart, but don't want to own up" |
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union_maid
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:01 PM Response to Original message |
9. The New Deal was killed by Republicans |
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The Blue Knight
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:03 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. The DLC is not right-of-center. |
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union_maid
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:06 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. The center has moved |
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Mairead
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Wed Jul-27-05 09:32 AM Response to Reply #13 |
96. "it isn't by a majority of Americans" |
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MrSlayer
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:01 PM Response to Original message |
10. The problem is the "center" is now middle-right. |
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Q
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:05 PM Response to Original message |
14. And I'm tired of the DLC taking credit for CLINTON... |
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MisterLiberal
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:33 PM Response to Reply #14 |
42. Well said |
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KoKo
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:45 PM Response to Reply #14 |
50. Well said, and there are many who agree with you. The time has come |
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MisterLiberal
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Wed Jul-27-05 11:44 AM Response to Reply #50 |
119. Yep |
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:05 PM Response to Original message |
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Lydia Leftcoast
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Tue Jul-26-05 11:15 PM Response to Reply #15 |
67. The "West Coast Set"? |
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mitchtv
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:06 PM Response to Original message |
17. DLC, aka Wm Clinton advised kerry to betray |
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LittleClarkie
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:11 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. Don't mention pink fucking tutus |
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elshiva
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:28 PM Response to Reply #22 |
39. AMEN! Pink TUTUS pic is homophobic/sexist. |
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LittleClarkie
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:09 PM Response to Original message |
20. The DLC killed my brother!!! |
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mitchtv
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:14 PM Response to Reply #20 |
27. not only that |
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LittleClarkie
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:18 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. Jokes on them |
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Q
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:18 PM Response to Reply #20 |
29. Make light of this debate all you want... |
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LittleClarkie
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:21 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. That's nice dear |
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Q
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:26 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. I just told you what I'm going to do: NOT VOTE FOR DLCERS |
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LittleClarkie
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:28 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Centrists attack Liberals |
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whitehousemoron
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Wed Jul-27-05 09:15 AM Response to Reply #37 |
92. response to Q |
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CWebster
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Wed Jul-27-05 11:36 AM Response to Reply #92 |
117. Winning what exactly? |
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MisterLiberal
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Wed Jul-27-05 01:18 PM Response to Reply #37 |
125. The DLC |
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TexasLinda
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Wed Jul-27-05 10:34 AM Response to Reply #29 |
104. I believe you |
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rman
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Wed Jul-27-05 05:18 AM Response to Reply #20 |
83. Corporations will save us!!! |
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Pithy Cherub
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:11 PM Response to Original message |
21. The DLC has a black eye right now. You may want to give |
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BIG Sean
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:11 PM Response to Original message |
23. Great Post! |
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The Blue Knight
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:21 PM Response to Reply #23 |
32. You expect any Gays to support homophobe enablers?. |
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The Blue Knight
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:22 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. And, without the DLC, there would have been no Clinton. |
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:25 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Perot too, you know. |
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Hippo_Tron
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:37 PM Response to Reply #34 |
43. No, Clinton was a once in a generation politician |
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bread_and_roses
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:26 PM Response to Original message |
36. There was an "energized, unified base in '04" because.... |
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The Blue Knight
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:30 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. Then you guys follow Howard Dean. |
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The Blue Knight
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:33 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Perot helped Clinton. |
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union_maid
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:39 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. OK, I'll bite |
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stevietheman
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Tue Jul-26-05 11:45 PM Response to Reply #40 |
72. Dean is a greater leader than any in the DLC... |
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mtnester
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Wed Jul-27-05 09:06 AM Response to Reply #40 |
90. Hey, we followed DLC direction in 00 and 04, and LOSING then |
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fooj
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Wed Jul-27-05 12:19 PM Response to Reply #40 |
122. Who's "you guys"? Isn't the DLC still democratic? |
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chaumont58
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:37 PM Response to Original message |
44. Clinton won because he is the best candidate in recent years |
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The Blue Knight
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:42 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. union_maid |
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union_maid
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:45 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. Been there, not impressed |
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chaumont58
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:54 PM Response to Reply #48 |
53. I've been there and read the essays on the war on terror |
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KoKo
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:56 PM Response to Reply #44 |
54. His "personality" won him the election. And, after four years of "idiot |
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bvar22
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:40 PM Response to Original message |
46. The basic premise is flawed. |
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The Blue Knight
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:51 PM Response to Reply #46 |
52. I don't support NAFTA or CAFTA. |
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union_maid
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Tue Jul-26-05 11:02 PM Response to Reply #52 |
58. Trade is the stuff for me |
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bvar22
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Tue Jul-26-05 11:05 PM Response to Reply #52 |
62. NAFTA/CAFTA is a CORE issue with the DLC. |
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CWebster
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Wed Jul-27-05 11:42 AM Response to Reply #46 |
118. Exceptional post nt. |
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Psephos
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:57 PM Response to Original message |
55. 2 kinds of people here: some want to stay pure, the others want to win |
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The Blue Knight
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Tue Jul-26-05 11:00 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. You also ask what the DLC has done for Labor and the Poor |
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union_maid
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Tue Jul-26-05 11:04 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. You've got your values backward |
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Eloriel
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Wed Jul-27-05 02:38 PM Response to Reply #60 |
128. Eggsackly |
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bvar22
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Tue Jul-26-05 11:13 PM Response to Reply #57 |
64. Besides showing up at the polls regularly |
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CWebster
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Wed Jul-27-05 11:52 AM Response to Reply #55 |
120. Here is the thing |
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IChing
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Tue Jul-26-05 11:04 PM Response to Original message |
59. YOU'RE A SUPPORTER BUT NOT A MEMBER IF I MAY QUOTE YOU |
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The Blue Knight
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Tue Jul-26-05 11:09 PM Response to Reply #59 |
63. Union_Maid |
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The Blue Knight
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Tue Jul-26-05 11:14 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. Lol, Bvar. |
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union_maid
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Tue Jul-26-05 11:15 PM Response to Reply #63 |
66. Labor is people |
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IChing
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Tue Jul-26-05 11:16 PM Response to Reply #63 |
68. The split that happen was that union member are fighting |
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Lydia Leftcoast
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Tue Jul-26-05 11:23 PM Response to Reply #63 |
69. Oh, you mean that the "moderate" Democrats standing idly by while |
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rman
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Wed Jul-27-05 05:11 AM Response to Reply #63 |
81. But it's not as though the DLC is worried about Labor being its own emeny |
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seabeyond
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Tue Jul-26-05 11:25 PM Response to Original message |
70. i am not a democrat. if all this bullshit fighting between dlc and dnc |
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stevietheman
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Tue Jul-26-05 11:54 PM Response to Reply #70 |
73. I'm pro-business too... |
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Wed Jul-27-05 12:13 AM Response to Original message |
74. How dare you bring your rational and fact-based thoughts to DU. Didn't |
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seabeyond
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Wed Jul-27-05 12:34 AM Response to Reply #74 |
76. let me ask you, what is the difference between the dlc and repugs |
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Wed Jul-27-05 10:54 AM Response to Reply #76 |
108. I'll take any DLC member over W and Frist. |
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seabeyond
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Wed Jul-27-05 12:20 PM Response to Reply #108 |
123. not my point. the dlc takes the repug talking points in describing |
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Wed Jul-27-05 10:48 AM Response to Reply #74 |
106. Didn't *you* get the memo that the 'didn't you get the memo' cliche |
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Q
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Wed Jul-27-05 10:57 AM Response to Reply #74 |
112. Perhaps you could tell us what is 'extreme'... |
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Capn Sunshine
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Wed Jul-27-05 12:29 AM Response to Original message |
75. The Big Lie |
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stevietheman
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Wed Jul-27-05 01:52 AM Response to Reply #75 |
77. Exactly spot on! n/t |
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depakid
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Wed Jul-27-05 02:56 AM Response to Original message |
78. Welp, I don't accept it |
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CWebster
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Wed Jul-27-05 05:48 AM Response to Original message |
84. Then don't complain |
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whitehousemoron
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Wed Jul-27-05 09:09 AM Response to Original message |
91. I am a member of the DLC too. |
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Connie_Corleone
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Wed Jul-27-05 09:18 AM Response to Reply #91 |
95. Welcome to DU! |
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CWebster
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Wed Jul-27-05 10:28 AM Response to Reply #91 |
103. The Centrists have been calling the shots for years |
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Wed Jul-27-05 09:16 AM Response to Original message |
93. Tell From to quit attacking fellow Dems |
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Wed Jul-27-05 09:17 AM Response to Original message |
94. DLC, the Grima Wormtongue of the Democratic Party |
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dolstein
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Wed Jul-27-05 09:38 AM Response to Reply #94 |
97. Actually, if one must draw analogies to Neville Chamberlain |
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Wed Jul-27-05 10:50 AM Response to Reply #97 |
107. And you wonder why the 'left' resents the DLC? |
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Wed Jul-27-05 09:54 AM Response to Original message |
98. I'm not a member of the DLC, but thanks Blue Knight |
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emcguffie
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Wed Jul-27-05 09:56 AM Response to Original message |
99. Do you not think the election was stolen? |
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Wed Jul-27-05 10:01 AM Response to Original message |
100. We do not need an education and we do not need thought control |
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brentspeak
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Wed Jul-27-05 10:40 AM Response to Reply #100 |
105. What are you talking about? (n/t) |
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ArkDem
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Wed Jul-27-05 10:24 AM Response to Original message |
102. This thread is guaranteed to be a long one! |
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brentspeak
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Wed Jul-27-05 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
109. Bottom line(s) are this: |
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stevietheman
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Wed Jul-27-05 12:14 PM Response to Reply #109 |
121. You're out of line on #5 |
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brentspeak
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Wed Jul-27-05 01:12 PM Response to Reply #121 |
124. I believe it's you who are out of line |
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Wed Jul-27-05 10:56 AM Response to Original message |
110. I won't sue you, but you won't get my vote either. n/t |
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SeanQ
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Wed Jul-27-05 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
111. I have two problems with the DLC - BIG problems |
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brentspeak
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Wed Jul-27-05 11:01 AM Response to Reply #111 |
113. The DLC is lacking a truly great leader |
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Wed Jul-27-05 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
116. hey, knock yourself out. |
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Wed Jul-27-05 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
126. I support your right |
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Wed Jul-27-05 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
127. i've been watching this debate for awhile |
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Wed Jul-27-05 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
129. Locking |
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