Could any other candidate take the beating from the press that Dean has ..

[patricia92243]

and still "come back" as far as he has.

If Kerry for instance had 24/7 coverage on a "negative", would he be able to bounce back?

[R3dD0g]

1. Clinton n/t

[Snivi Yllom]

19. yup

Clinton did bounce back after being almost erased.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

2. Dean has a 20 to 25% base

what has he come back from?

[JuniorPlankton]

3. I guess their point is

that other candidates would not be subjected to the same because they
are "better" than Dean.

P.S. I do not accept the argument, but I think this is what it is.

[AlinPA]

4. They are going after his wife too.

I saw part of an interview by MSRNC this morning where the airhead asked his wife a question related to her hair and style. The camera was on Mrs Dean and she was shaking her head slowly and then replied in a brave way, saying "I am who I am". This is only the beginning. They will go after any Dem and with Rove's several hundred million $, they will stop at nothing.

[MuseRider]

14. That will be the case

for all of them I suppose (except Kucinich) and this is one place they should never go. I hate that they do that but I can say that I was very happy and proud to hear her response. There isn't much they can do with that but they will try. Good for her.

[jpgray]

5. Kerry was declared DOA in Iowa

He was roundly mocked for waffling, being aloof, not being excited, etc. Don't worry, Dean can still turn it around in NH--it looks like it will be a close race! :toast:

[blm]

6. Kerry and Edwards candidacies declared "dead" and "irrelevant" for months

and that hurt because it dried up their fundraising. They survived.

Nothing is worse tor fundraising than having your campaign declared dead by the media.

[AP]

7. Kerry took a vicious beating and came back to win IA. Dean took a beating

AFTER he lost IA for two days in order to divert attention from his bad polices. We've talked about his personality for a couple days, and Dean is basically the only candidate who does better if you feel sorry for him personally, because then you aren't thinking about the fact that he barely has a tax plan, and you don't think about those secret governor's files.

[Jim Sagle]

8. Nobody gives a fuck about his files.

[bhunt70]

10. I do, I think people should know what may come up later...

You can't just go on lip service.

[AP]

15. ...that nobody cares is a problem. They'll come out if he runs in GE.

And Dean will lose, and he'll try to blame Republicans.

Will Democrats blame Republicans? Or will they hate Dean for KNOWING what's in those files and not letting everyone else know, knowing full well that shit was in there which could be used against him?

[Abigail147]

18. Your picture of St. John Edwards

bears a disquieting resemblance to those with Bush with the halo. What's up with that?

[not systems]

22. It is faith based campaigning.

He is using to play the "Jesus" card for the primaries.

I imagine it will "play well" with "real" Americans in the south.

[PAMod]

24. John Kerry took a beating? Not since the vietcong!

Being dismissed & ignored is not being beaten.

[LBJBestEver]

9. None of the other candidates (except Clark) spew off bizarre one-liners

like Dean. He should expect it. At least Clark isn't dropping a bunch of "Iraqis are not better with Saddam gone" bombs.

[eissa]

12. As an Iraqi,

Dean is not far off the mark. Having sharia law implemented to take take care of marriages, divorce and other social matters is not my idea of an improvement. Just because Saddam was a brutal dictator does not mean Iraqis are better off with an Islamic theocracy or Kurdish federalism.

[LBJBestEver]

13. You live there now?

PLEASE

Go to Detroit, and see how "mad" they are about it. <sarcasm>

[eissa]

16. No, but I have family there

and this is the first time they have contacted us about leaving the country. Living under Saddam was certainly no picnic, but living under the Taliban is much worse. Yeah, I know there are those within the Middle Eastern community who are happy -- most of my family here are (they are also life-long repukes, for what it's worth). But there are just as many who are not.

[killbotfactory]

23. Iraqi Taliban and Islamic Law is close to "shining pearl of democracy"

I guess...

Bush really screwed Iraq.

[MuseRider]

11. Yes. n/t

[John_H]

17. Dean supporters should count their blessings

without the GOP inspired Dean love fest that all went awry in IA, Dean would have been an also ran months ago.

[cthrumatrix]

25. maybe it's a double secret RW comspiracy .... thank god

[JaneQPublic]

20. Kerry would be "crying in his teacups." (nt)

[yellowdawgdem]

21. Dean vs Kerry

I think Dean makes intuitive decisions on the spot that are generally right-on. Then, if he does make a (perceived) mistake, as in the I've got a scream speech, he corrects it within a few days. This reminds me of Clinton, and I think its a winning hand.
As much as I like Kerry personally, and think he'd be a terrific president, he will have more problems getting elected. Because he doesn't have this same intuitive ability. Also, he can be boring- and he goes on and on when he should give a short answer and leave it at that. Sometimes, too, he goes way overboard on the war veteran stuff, of course that's impt, but not the whole ball of wax. I would worry that he'd select somebody for vp that was uninspired, or didn't balance the ticket. Also, his email mailings are really boring.
For all Dean's faults, I still think he has the fire to make it happen. I'm not ruling out Clark or Edwards, but just discussing Kerry vs Dean.

[ModerateMiddle]

26. Frankly

I think that the reason it seems as if Dean has received so much "negative" press is because of Dean's thin skin. He reacts to the press, and the press simply LOVES to witness his reactions. One of the reasons, pre "Dean is unstoppable" meme that reporters covered Dean so much was because of his tendency to "make news" by shooting off his mouth.

John Kerry was declared "dead" and his campaign was described as "desperate" and "struggling" for many months. But Kerry didn't exacerbate that coverage by reacting to it.

Just because Dean is loud in his response to the "press pushing", doesn't mean he has responded in an appropriate or desirable manner.

[THUNDER HANDS]

27. Kerry had six months of people telling him his campaign was dead

Dean's had a week of bad press.

Please, step back and remember how this whole process has turned out.