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Mark E. Smith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 09:36 PM
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Poll question: What Percentage Of "DLC" Posts Are Freeper Plants?
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CTD Donating Member (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 09:37 PM
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1. Pro-DLC or Anti-DLC posts?
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 09:38 PM
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2. Don't know about freeper plants...
... but I'm inclined to think that most of the ardent DLC supporters are DLC plants.... :)
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upoceg Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 09:44 PM
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5. lol
Edited on Wed Jul-27-05 09:44 PM by upoceg
well put,punpirate :rofl:
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 09:40 PM
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3. Because everybody knows how much the FReepers love Hillary Clinton.
:eyes:
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 09:44 PM
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6. Freepers want Hillary - and Freepers want to pit Dems against Dems..
And you know what --- it's working ---

The anti-Rethug posts float straight to the bottom here.

The Freepers are probably laughing their overly plump, lilly white asses off.


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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 09:48 PM
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11. Yeah it's not like the "fuck you Hillary" post did that at all.
That was an informative point of unity for us.
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 09:53 PM
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15. LOL
That's the best post this month
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 09:43 PM
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4. hehehe. Every one of them.
That's hillarious! Every one of them...We are all freepers here, I knew it...reminds me of a far side cartoon, where this wolf is taking of sheeps clothing in a field of other blatant wolves in sheeps clothing, saying "wait a minute, is there any real sheep here?"
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 09:44 PM
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7. Oh, sorry, shall I tell them to fall into lockstep with the DU majority
God forbid there should be a difference of opinion. And God forbid we should have a discussion about what they see in the DLC vs what others don't see in the DLC.

I can relate, actually. I was called an operative, sychophant and apologist for John Kerry. To hard to understand I like the guy, apparently.

Oh, no. I must be an operative of some sort.

:eyes:
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 09:45 PM
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8. LittleClarkie-
Why post a pic of a DLC'er on your site if you're so against them?
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 09:52 PM
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14. Where do I say I'm so against them?
I'm kinda neutral, actually. I don't know enough about them to go apeshit as some have.

I may disagree with some of their positions. And I think Al From sounds like a dweeb. But if you mean Kerry, I consider him a nominal DLCer at best.

Just as you can be a Dem, and not believe in everything on the platform, I imagine you can be on the DLC list, and not believe everything on their plateform. He's somewhat too liberal to be full-out DLC, it appears to me.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 10:22 PM
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31. I will testify for LittleClarkie on that issue.
He is more open minded and willing to have useful discussions than most on this site, including me. I usually don't agree with him, but always find his questions to be thoughtful, respectful, and pertinent, and his positions supported with logic and thought.

Make no partisan assumptions when talking to or about LittleClarkie.


LittleClarkie: PM me. I want my check!
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 09:45 PM
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9. We have to protect our minds from propaganda at DU.
But not because we are feeble and impressionable so stop saying that!
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 09:49 PM
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12. Oh, our BEAUTIFUL minds?
And apparently the definition of propaganda is "stuff I disagree with."

So the people from the side you disagree with must be operatives. O-B-K-B. Good luck proving it.

I know I was insulted mightily when I was accused of such things.

Btw, I do believe the protection you seek is the sole domain of the moderators, not us.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 09:52 PM
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13. Yeah - Big tent. The freepers are the ones who try and stir up
hatred amongst us. The ones who would try anything to smash the big Dem Tent.

Don't know how many there are. The occasional one for sure. Most DUers are just being themselves.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 09:53 PM
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16. Yep,
and I consider it uncool to call fellow DUers freepers because they disagree with something.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 09:55 PM
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18. If they are using obfustification tools instead of open discussion -
I'll say they are using obfustification tools of Freepers. Cause they are.

We have nothing to hide form open debate.

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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 10:02 PM
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21. Uh huh.
We have moderators for a reason.

And accusing your fellow DUers for no reason will get your posts deleted.

And actually, it's the far left who act like Freepers. Lefty freepers. More emotion than fact. That's what I've seen anyway.

A differing thought! Run away! Run away!
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 10:07 PM
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24. When you hear them parrot rightwing terms like "McGovernite"...
...you start to wonder.

Try Googling the term, it's amazing to see who DLCers borrow their language from.

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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 10:17 PM
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27. I don't agree with you there. I think there is just a slightly different
Edited on Wed Jul-27-05 10:18 PM by applegrove
belief system so they don't put anything past the nefarious WH. And they are more often than not right. I'm usually with them over there. The patterns of this WH are terrifying.

I'm a social Liberal and a fiscal conservative. Makes me a mod I guess.

Big tent. We need all of us.

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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 09:46 PM
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10. does this include DLC polls?
just askin.

dp
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 09:55 PM
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17. LOL - Mark, you struck a nerve! Kudos to you!
I especially loved the "Good luck proving it" comment.

:rofl:

In my opinion - your quested NEEDED to be asked! You've definitely struck a nerve though...

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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 10:00 PM
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19. Left wing McCarthyism sure is a hoot, innit
Enjoy.

Look out for that Communist...errr, I mean, DLCer, behind that bush.

If you want to spend your time on a messageboard accusing everyone you disagree with of being a freeper, knock yourself out.

But just so you know, it's insulting to those who are sincere. And since we're on a messageboard, we definitely can't prove it.

So, indeed, good luck proving it. Guilty until proven innocent, eh?

Yeah, that's the American way.
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Mark E. Smith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 10:05 PM
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23. Thanks.
A couple of days debate is fine. But this DLC obsession has turned into some sort of mania.

I vote for Democrats. I support Democrats. And anybody who works as hard as some of these characters to divide my party against itself over what are basically academic and narrow ideologically inspired agenda points really pisses me off.

People need to get over this bullshit and remind themselves who the real enemy is ...
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 10:14 PM
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25. I think she meant it in the opposite way
I on the other hand, agree with you. We're losing focus on the real enemy.
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 10:17 PM
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28. You're too much LittleClarkie..
Too.. too much.

Glad you finally realized though how it was distracting from the real enemy.

Mark's poll served a purpose. It didn't imply anyone in particular was a Freeper. He didn't "out" anyone by name.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 10:21 PM
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29. Finally realized, hell. I've been saying this since last night
when I posted a picture of Bolton gloating over his recess appointment and how distracted we were.

We can disagree and discuss the DLC without making them out to be the Great Satan. I've been almost making fun of the discussion for two days (the DLC ate my baby, etc).

At the moment I'm keeping a running tally of DLC threads in my ignore file. About an hour ago, I couldn't take it any more. So now I'm just speaking when spoken to, reply-wise.

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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 10:28 PM
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32. The real enemy is the neocon global fascist agenda.
If you rightly condemn Bush and his cabinet for implementing that agenda, then how do you also not condemn those who helped him along the way. Will Marshall, co-founder of the DLC is a PNAC signator. He recently held a seminar with Thomas Donnelly, the very bastard who is credited with writing the words "...Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a new Pearl Harbor.... in PNAC's Mein Kampf of the 21st Century with the Orwellian title "Rebuilding America's Defenses".

Several people who advised John Kerry's campaign (Marshall included) were PNAC signators.

Joe Biden is a PNAC signator. So are former members of the Clinton cabinet.

The DLC senators voted to authorize the Chimp's war, knowing full well it came from the PNAC plan.

Therefore, the DLC is willingly aiding and abetting the criminals who are destroying this country, and very possibly planned or at the least allowed the 9-11 terrorist attacks which their own agenda called for!

I cannot justify treason. Therefore I cannot excuse the actions of the DLC.
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Mark E. Smith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 10:44 PM
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36. Oh Yeah.
Kind of reminds me of the arguments you heard from certain Nader supporters a while back justifying their vote because there "really wasn't any difference between Gore and Bush."

This "DLC" nonsense is just an updated version of the same old shit.

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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 10:53 PM
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41. I quote you specific facts about your DLC heroes and Nader is all you got?
Nader has nothing to do with this. The DLC are WILLING PARTNERS IN THE CRIMES OF PNAC.

Absorb that reality. Then deal with it. Either leave them behind, or become a willing supporter of treason. Your choice.
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Mark E. Smith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 10:55 PM
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42. "Let's all sing like the birdies sing!"
Tweet! Tweet Tweet! Tweet Tweet!

You're nuts.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 10:34 PM
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35. They are not "narrow" and "ideologically inspired"
If you are happy with the corporate state, fine. But being opposed to that is not "ideological." It's just good old traditional liberalism.

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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 10:02 PM
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20. I refuse to vote in this until you define what "DLC posts" means. n/t
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 10:05 PM
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22. Same here. nt
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 10:51 PM
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39. See post #36
I think that clarifies which side the original poster is on.

And it was also stated in another thread. These sons of fucking bitches will now call you a "Freeper" if you dare to oppose the DLC.
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Kalish Donating Member (402 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 10:16 PM
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26. You think the DLC would waste time and money to come in here and post
to pay people to sit at desks and post?

Good God.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 10:31 PM
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34. The DLC does have the support of Corporate America,
I don't put ANYTHING beyond the advertising arms of Corporate America. They have LARGE budgets to employ Image Cunsultants, Permanent Focus Groups, Public Relations Consultants, Survey Groups, Impact Studies......There are even Consulting Firms that specialize in haunting the Internet to jump start AstroTurf support for their products.

The DLC might not pay someone to post here, but the Public Relations Firms and Corporate Packing Teams would be foolish not to!
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 10:22 PM
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30. Frighteningly enough, probably not most
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 10:31 PM
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33. Rats. Busted
Yep. I'm one of the freepers who have posted anti-DLC posts.

Those DLCers are just as bad as the rest of you commie liberals.

(Sarcasm)
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 10:46 PM
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38. We're going to have to ask for your ID and your DU company car back...
You're fired!!
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 10:51 PM
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40. How about my pension?
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 10:45 PM
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37. (peter.puma)Oh, two or three(/peter.puma)
Forever warped by Warner Brothers. Damn them.
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Skinner ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 11:42 AM
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43. Locking.
This is divisive. Last I checked, members of the DLC were still Democrats.
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