CAFTA MARATHON THREAD 3

[ncrainbowgrrl]

Thread #2 is over here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1963154

[ncrainbowgrrl]

1. Go Nancy Pelosi!

[meganmonkey]

2. Thanks for the new thread!

:toast:

[Coexist]

3. Awww... Bill Thomas is getting all warm and fuzzy

over great Dems of the past.

[ncrainbowgrrl]

6. What a great clip to use as campaign footage for a Dem campaign! (n/t)

[ncrainbowgrrl]

4. Bill Thomas (R-CA) on now.

:puke:

[senseandsensibility]

7. WTF?

He implied that unions are for CAFTA!!! Lying creep. Will someone call him on it?

[proud patriot]

13. Bill Thomas"this is a move in a progressive direction"

x(

[TheFarseer]

5. what the hell is CODEX? n/t

[wli]

8. pure evil; requires prescriptions for OTC cold remedies, aspirin, etc.

[GOPNotForMe]

9. Permanent majority - how frightening.

Thomas is frothing.

[Coexist]

11. I was moved to tears!

[Tux]

As Buddha said

Nothing is forever. Given time, failures, and the hate conservatives have for America, they will be voted out and disgraced as well as dishonored.

[meganmonkey]

10. Dems provoke fear?

Oh. My. God.

:puke:

[Coexist]

12. wasn't that cute?!

[Idioteque]

14. I'll bet my left nut that this won't be a 15 minute vote. n/t

[ncrainbowgrrl]

15. 15 minute vote. Yes, a 15 minute vote. (not 15-held open until 3am!)

I'm nervous right now.

[Robbien]

16. Looks like the "free traders" on the floor are cranking up the

Looks like the "free traders" on the floor are cranking up the Wollansak 8-Track and playing the same, tired, old songs about how "great" this CAFTA is. It is a real turkey for the American worker and the middle class:

This is not my post. I cut and paste it from freeperland.

[Sgent]

19. Many/most Freepers

feel the same about this bill as we do.

Its scary, when DU and FR agree.

[meganmonkey]

22. What's even scarier is when FR and DU agree

but the bill is this close anyway!

:scared:

[Robbien]

23. Posts over at the libertarian site also match up with ours

The bill has nothing anyone wants, everyone will be hurt.

[1932]

28. Your avrg. FR'er works for a living and should be voting Democratic if...

...they were voting in their best economic interests.

[Zhade]

26. Of course, that 8-track was manufactured in China by wage slaves.

NT!

[Tux]

33. ACK!

What I hated is how they compared CAFTA to fair trade.

[acmavm]

17. 79 yes 70 no, but a whole lot who haven't voted yet.

NO NO NO NO NO this can't pass.

Anyone voting for this, knowing how bad NAFTA is for the country, needs to be looking for work come 2006.

[bvar22]

21. Well, at least any Dems who sell out.

*

[bvar22]

18. Thank GOD CRangel called for Roll Call.

Now these assholes will have to go on the record.!!!

I HATE voice votes and they should be outlawed!!!

[proud patriot]

20. Voting now

:-(

[ncrainbowgrrl]

25. 125-103 right now

[Robbien]

24. Please be on the watch out for Bean's vote

[meganmonkey]

27. Oh boy - callers...

Uuuhhh

Praise the lord. Horse and Buggy. Go Cafta...

[ncrainbowgrrl]

30. That was one of the funniest thing I've ever heard!

:hi:

[meganmonkey]

32. It sorta relieved the tension a little!

:D

[Robbien]

31. The RNC must be paying people to call in

since no conservative would support this without some kind of deal

[acmavm]

29. This old dude "thank the Lord, praise the Lord" is off his meds.

They need to keep his senile old ass away from any communications equipment.

Why are the yeas ahead???????????????????

Most call in voters are against it too.

[Coexist]

34. 155 / 135

10 - R nays
9 - D yeas

[ncrainbowgrrl]

35. 160-151

[ncrainbowgrrl]

37. "If CAFTA Passes, we'll have to look for a new way to make money"

Wow, succinct caller.

[Coexist]

39. 169 / 162

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42. 174 / 173

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43. 176 / 175

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46. 179 / 186

[ncrainbowgrrl]

44. 195-198

[Coexist]

48. 184 / 192

[meganmonkey]

50. Whaaa???

Oh boy! Oh boy!

:bounce:

[Coexist]

51. But if the rest of the R vote Yea, we lose

23 of them left.

[Coexist]

53. 199 / 204

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55. 201 / 204

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58. 204 / 207

[Coexist]

60. no time left.

[Coexist]

61. 207 / 207

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65. 209 / 207

[Coexist]

70. 209/209

is this annoying anyone - I can't sit still and therefore must type.

[meganmonkey]

71. THANK YOU!!!

I have no video, so I just keep refreshing to see your numbers.

THANKS!

[ncrainbowgrrl]

210-209

:scared:

[MuseRider]

73. Me too!

THANKS TO ALL OF YOU!

[Coexist]

74. still 209/209

[Coexist]

75. 210/209

[Coexist]

77. 210/210

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80. 212/210

[Coexist]

81. 213/210 damn - still 9 Rep. left.

[meganmonkey]

83. *fingers crossed*

[ncrainbowgrrl]

79. 212-210

[Coexist]

82. 214/210

[Coexist]

87. I wonder what they're offering the last minute holdouts.

[meganmonkey]

90. I'll give them the ability to sleep at night

if they do what's right.

Otherwise I hope they have nightmares the rest of their lives.

[Coexist]

95. are they trying to give me a heart attack?

[meganmonkey]

97. I know whatcha mean

Thud Thud Thud!

[Coexist]

102. 214/211

that was an R that voted nay. One D left, 8 R.

[meganmonkey]

104. okay.....

[ncrainbowgrrl]

106. Please let that R have several friends who are about to kill this.

Not holding my breath though

[Coexist]

107. you and me both.

I can only imagine how hard they are being worked right now. Campaign contributions, etc.

[meganmonkey]

108. This is intense

I can't believe how close it is. Evn DU and FR agree on this one!!

[meganmonkey]

40. 9 D yeas

I'm getting nervous.

:yoiks:

[Robbien]

36. Those 9 yea votes are worrisome

With just a little over half of the Dem votes committed, nine is way too high.

[ncrainbowgrrl]

41. make that 11 votes now.

[ncrainbowgrrl]

54. Make that 14 votes by dems for this crap.

[Pithy Cherub]

57. 14 now...

:(

[Idioteque]

38. I swear to god if those 11 democrats cost us this vote...

...I'm going to break something >_<.

[union_maid]

45. Anyone know which Dems? n/t

n/t

[Coexist]

47. it will be up at house.gov soon.

[senseandsensibility]

49. I'd like to know too!

Anyone know?

[Robbien]

52. This morning the estimate of how many we could lose

was 15

[Coexist]

56. we lost 14 so far

[meganmonkey]

59. Oh god a LaRouche caller

[Coexist]

do they all giggle like that?

[meganmonkey]

67. He sounded so dreamy

:P

[ncrainbowgrrl]

62. "he's a genius." (n/t)

[GOPNotForMe]

69. Ha!

Same thought I had. :freak:

[Idioteque]

63. Steny Hoyer..GET OUT YOUR WHIP!

We're losing :(.

[ncrainbowgrrl]

66. Where are the last 5 dems?

[senseandsensibility]

64. The callers are almost ALL against it!

eom

[sadiesworld]

68. The c-span callers supporting CAFTA are making absolutely no sense.

:crazy:

[Tux]

76. Of course

They must be freepers or conservative libertarians who would support free trade at al costs. Can't stand them.

[TheFarseer]

100. I support cafta because we're all one world

God bless the world! WTF is wrong with that guy? Sounded like an old fart that doesn't have to worry about his job anymore, but maybe his stock portfolio OR he's just a crackpot

[sadiesworld]

72. It's over, isn't it?

:cry:

[Armstead]

78. Arrgh

So far more Republicans are voting against it than Democrats voting for it. 23 No GOP votes and 14 yes Democratic votes.

If not for those turncoats, this could very well have been defeated.

[sadiesworld]

89. Quibbling over the price of pork at this point, I dare say.

:(

[Idioteque]

84. Another dem just voted yea!?!?!

What a bunch of bullshit. These turncoat dems have a lot of explaining to do!!!

[ncrainbowgrrl]

85. Seriously.

WTF?!

[acmavm]

86. Traitor dems cost us this vote. Right now it's 15. Watch closely for

who they are.

Ben Nelson of Nebraska is a given.

[Pithy Cherub]

99. thought he was in the senate...

Isn't this just the House right now :shrug:

[acmavm]

109. Yeah. I haven't been paying attention to who was voting on this. I

wasn't paying attention, although I knew that the numbers were pretty screwy.

I've been so wound up over this that even when I pay attention I'm not paying attention.

Still 9 to go.

[AndrewJacksonFaction]

88. What is the tally?

I can't see it online, too damn blurry.

[GOPNotForMe]

91. ha ha, same boat :) nt

[meganmonkey]

92. 214/210

[AndrewJacksonFaction]

94. A big thank you and CRAP!!!!!!

[Idioteque]

93. Nancy Pelosi should switch to Yea and move to reconsider...

...this time pointing out to the caucus that voting Yea is not an option!!

[ncrainbowgrrl]

96. LOL- I like the "strategery."

[proud patriot]

98. I wonder which 15 Dems voted yea

x(

[Idioteque]

101. Under fast track, does an agreement require a majority of those present...

...or a majority total. If a majority of all members is the case, they need four more votes. That could be why they haven't called it yet. They could still be twisting arms.

[Armstead]

103. You mean there's still hope?

But the NV's are mostly Repubs, alas.
Damn those 15 Democratic traitors. If not for them, this would have gone down.

[Robbien]

105. They need the four

they are just deciding which four has to fall on their sword.

The games over, we lost. They are just deciding who will be the losers on their side.

[ncrainbowgrrl]

110. locking for length- continue in #4

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