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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 09:40 PM
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Creepy Grinning Condi interview with Jim Lehrer
Condi grinned and flirted her way through this softball interview with Jim Lehrer, whose Southern Charm cannot account for (all of) the bizarre, ghoulishly oblivious fun Secretary Rice was having. The linked transcript has photos that make her look dignifed-- may have been the same photo used repeatedly, because there was hardly a moment in the interview when she wasn't working her dimples.

Interesting the performance they do for the American people they think buy the act. Either Condi is a hammy actress or she was on the same happy drugs Dubya used in his Baba Wawa intewview.

“SACRIFICED LIVES AND TREASURE”?
‘Well, we're going to stand for the principles that we're standing for around the world, and most especially in Iraq, where America has sacrificed and -- sacrificed lives and treasure.’

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice discusses developments in Iraq, negotiations with North Korea and the effect recent attacks in London and Egypt are having on the U.S. (including Bolton nomination)

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/white_house/july-dec05/rice_7-28.html

Iraqi constitution and global terrorism

JIM LEHRER: On the violence, the insurgency, you, the president and many, many others have said, once the political process got underway, the violence and the insurgency would diminish. It has not. What happened?

CONDOLEEZZA RICE: Well, let me say that what I think we have said is that the insurgency will lose its political -- any political basis. Now, the fact of the matter is, it is -- it doesn't take that many people, unfortunately, to have a suicide bomb and to blow up innocent children, standing next to American soldiers, getting candy. That's something that can actually be done fairly easily by a few violent and evil people.

And so the pictures that people see on television every day, which are very dramatic of the bombings, are the work of not the majority of Iraqis, probably not even a substantial minority of Iraqis.

The political process, which is underway, is harder to see, but the Iraqi people are clearly tiring of the evil few who are determined to continue the violence in Iraq. And so the ability to get better intelligence, the ability of the Iraqi security forces, who are ultimately going to be very much better at fighting an insurgency than coalition forces will be, as their capacity improves they will also make headway.

But I don't want to give the impression that the violence or the use of suicide bombs, that there's going to be a direct correlation between improvement in the political process and the end of that kind of violence.

And, Jim, just one other thing, which is that the neighbors can help with this, too. And so the Iraqis are working very hard, we are working very hard, because on some of these borders the willingness of neighbors to cut off supply to the insurgents, and indeed the supply of people coming across the border to carry out these acts, is also very important.

<nip>

‘WHEN ARE WE GOING TO STOP MAKING EXCUSES FOR THE TERRORISTS AND

JIM LEHRER: What about the additional element here that, increasingly, terrorism experts and Muslim experts are saying that the combination of Iraq and other foreign policy decisions by the United States are actually creating more terrorists every day than they are eliminating them.

CONDOLEEZZA RICE: When we are going to stop making excuses for the terrorists? The terrorists on Sept. 11 attacked the United States. We weren't in Iraq. We weren't even in Afghanistan on Sept. 11.

They have attacked in places that had no forces in either place. They've attacked all over the world. They've attacked in Morocco and in Bali and in Egypt and in London and in Madrid.

When are we going to stop making excuses for the terrorists and saying that somebody is making them do it? No, these are simply evil people who want to kill. And they want to kill in the name of a perverted ideology that really is not Islam, but they somehow want to claim that mantle to say that this is about some kind of grievance. This isn't about some kind of grievance. This is an effort to destroy, rather than to build.

And until everybody in the world calls it by name -- the evil that it is -- stops making excuses for them, then I think we're going to have a problem. And I hope that after the bombings of innocent people in London, innocent people at Sharm el-Sheikh, innocent children in Iraq, that people will call this by name and stop making excuses for these people.

No one is making them do it. They're doing it because they want to create chaos and to undermine our way to life.

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“WELL, IT’S BEEN A REAL PLEASURE. IT REALLY HAS.” 

JIM LEHRER: Finally, you're talking about what you're up to. This week marks six months for you to be Secretary of State of the United States of America. Looking back on it, does it meet your expectations in terms of the trade-offs between frustrations and dissatisfactions and satisfactions and pleasures?

CONDOLEEZZA RICE: Well, it's been a real pleasure. It really has. Of course, there are days that are not so pleasurable. We're in a terribly challenging time. We have a lot of difficult issues. But you don't have the chance to change history, you don't have the historic times, unless it comes with challenge and difficulty.

And so I've been very privileged and I am so grateful to the president for his confidence in me. I am grateful to the Senate for the confirmation. I'm grateful to the team of men and women here at the State Department that get up every day and press and pull in the direction of a more prosperous and freer world.

And I'm enjoying it because I think we are in a time of consequence. We have a president who doesn't just see the world as it is, but the world as it can be. And when that's your mandate every day, it's pretty exciting.

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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 09:44 PM
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1. this woman is as clueless as bush
it is horrifying to know who exactly is running this country
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 09:44 PM
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2. All I can say is
:puke:
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rusty charly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 09:45 PM
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3. i was really boiling
watching this one and i had to turn it off. she didn't answer one question directly. not one. it was especially amusing to hear her announce that we were not going to let north korea "change the subject", since that's all the bushies have been doing for the last year.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 10:01 PM
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5. Very weak interview by Mr. Lehrer-- he could do better
but that was not the plan.

Her manner was truly beezarre. This is the Secretary of State of the United States and she delivered her lines as if there really is no trouble in the world.

"It's been a REAL pleasure." Unreal.
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TaleWgnDg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 09:49 PM
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4. Yeah. Condi must work on not showing so much teeth . . . eh.
Edited on Thu Jul-28-05 09:54 PM by TaleWgnDg
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Yeah. Condi must work on not showing so much teeth . . . eh. But, alas, you haven't noticed? She's buck-toothed!! Yikes. I guess a retainer on the Secty of State just wouldn't do, huh?

Now, that was said with all due respect to those that have had to endure the torture of retainers and painful orthodontist visits that accompany such teeth realignment (my own daughter being one of them). Wouldn't you think that Condi could have it done too?


Condi as Warrior-Princess


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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 10:10 PM
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7. Her teeth had nothing to do with it thankyouverymuch
Sounds like you didn't see it. B-)
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TaleWgnDg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 10:46 PM
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13. Au contraire, I did . . . n/t
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 10:03 PM
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6. This is not cogent or coherent thought
Edited on Thu Jul-28-05 10:04 PM by SpiralHawk
I know cogent thought. I have heard others articulate it many times. I have even attained that level of congruency myself on occasion. What Condi is spouting is not cogent.

CONDI: "Well, we're going to stand for the principles that we're standing for..."

ALERT ALERT -- MINDFUCK ALERT -- ALERT ALERT
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 10:28 PM
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10. The whole charade was to reassure The American People
and insert some new memes.

What's up with the "treasure" comment? I heard it from another WH official this week-- I think it was A. Gonzalez on NewsHour (THAT was a GOOD Jim Lehrer interview. But Gonzalez is even more smooth at the obsequious nonsense.)

He said we have sacrificed treasure. She said "we have sacrificed lives and treasure." :wtf: is that? Who are they talking to? Secret code for the elite Bush "base"?

‘Well, we're going to stand for the principles that we're standing for around the world, and most especially in Iraq, where America has sacrificed and -- sacrificed lives and treasure.’

"MINDFUCK ALERT" Is there a smilie for that?

:woohoo: :crazy: :evilfrown: :puke: :kick:
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 10:21 PM
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8. I noticed how "mellow" she seemed
Either she's taking something, or else she believes the WH spin and thinks she's one of the "gods" who are going to save the world.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 10:26 PM
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9. sneaky, calculated construction
"When we are going to stop making excuses for the terrorists? The terrorists on Sept. 11 attacked the United States. We weren't in Iraq. We weren't even in Afghanistan on Sept. 11..."

see? suddenly the guys that attacked us are obliquely identified and linked with Iraq. Smooth as silk!


now let's male the generalization wider:

"They have attacked in places that had no forces in either place. They've attacked all over the world. They've attacked in Morocco and in Bali and in Egypt and in London and in Madrid..."

see? Therer are all kinds of "links" between Saddam and AlQ. Just imply it.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 10:48 PM
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14. combined with "what, me worry?" aplomb at that moment
Not only the connection you so aptly draw-- she said it as if it MEANT SOMETHING but didn't say what. Another implication of REVERSED HISTORY THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

"We WEREN'T EVEN in Afghanistan on Sept. 11..."

Perhaps the audience these pantomimes are intended for are also heavily medicated. Smooth as silk indeed.

:evilfrown:

Talking points for the braindead:

"We WEREN"T EVEN in Iraq when they attacked us!!!!!!!!!"
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Flying Dream Blues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 10:28 PM
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11. I HOPE she's just clueless. Otherwise she's
completely evil. What a creepy interview. "It's been a real pleasure. It really has."
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 10:29 PM
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12. "it doesn't take that many people to have a suicide bomb"
Bullshit!

Only ONE civilian insurgent dies in the explosion, but it takes WHOLE communities, even towns to shelter, feed, train, and equip each bomber.
If even ONE person in this community was AGAINST the insurgents, they would inform the US, and they would be gone. The fact that the civilian insurgency is growing, and has lasted over 2 years PROVES that the insurgents have the support of the MAJORITY of Iraqis!
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 11:46 PM
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15. It's cuz she knows she's scary if she doesn't pile on the charm


(with major props to the illustrious SWAMP RAT!!!!!!!!!!!!) :applause:
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 09:21 AM
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16. SWAMP RAT FOR PRESIDENT!
:bounce:
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 09:25 AM
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17. Simplistic sentimental sap
appeals to those who don't think.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 03:39 PM
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21. Describes the president
aptly.

As well as the original "Simplistic sentimental sap" president -- Ronny Raygun


"....appeals to those who don't think."
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 11:18 AM
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18. The statement of the year:
"We have a president who doesn't see the world as it is...."

SOMETIMES, every once in a while, they let you know who they really are. If you read closely enough, they tell you who they are.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 03:35 PM
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20. With a catapult
"... they tell you who they are."
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 11:37 AM
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19. "press and pull" "press and pull" "press and pull" "press and pull"

traitor
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 03:47 PM
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22. condi, I have never had an original thought, rice looks like...
Rocky the squirrel when she smiles and looks like the Grinch when she's pissed. Normally, she just has a lollipop head. The Nancy Reagan syndrome. Big head little body.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 03:57 PM
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23. Actually, another Nancy
She wears her hair like Nancy in "Peanuts."

However, it was her behavior, not her appearance, that was creepily smarmy.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 06:04 PM
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24. Do you mean Lucy?
Yes, she is smarmy in very creepy demonic evil aunt way.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 07:06 PM
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25. AAAAAAaaaaa rrrrrRRRRRggggG!!
Here's a football-- hold it and I'll kick.

Nancy! Yes, Condi has cartoon hair. It never looks 3D.

It's amazing watching these WH talking head performances that completely GLOSS OVER the war in Iraq.

The NewsHour has given more and more watery interviews. Sometimes there are good hard questions from Jim Lehrer in studio. This pre-filmed formal (WH?) interview was a total pandering puff piece.

I noticed the night before that after a more substantive interview with Alberto Gonzalez that addressed (at least the questions did) Rovegate, the NewsHour followed with a filler report on black market nuclear arms trading in AFRICA (shades of yellow cake and aluminum tubes).

:sarcasm:
Subtle.
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