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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 07:14 AM
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Is Judge Roberts Opus Dei?
Scalia and Thomas are Opus Dei. Thomas was baptized by an Opus Dei priest when he converted to that brand of Catholicism. How about Roberts?

Is Judge Roberts Opus Dei?

Posted on Salon:

Is Roberts Opus Dei?
All indicators point to "yes" --

Roberts & wife left their DC parish to follow their pastor when he was re-assigned:

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Msgr. Peter Vaghi, who has been pastor of St. Patrick Church downtown for nine years, has been appointed pastor of Church of the Little Flower, Bethesda. He will replace Msgr. William Kane, who is retiring.

Born in 1948, Msgr. Vaghi attended Gonzaga College High School here; Holy Cross College in Worcester, Mass.; the University of Salzburg, Austria, where he studied as a Fulbright Scholar; the University of Virginia School of Law, Charlottesville; and the Gregorian University, Rome. Ordained in 1985, he was later appointed assistant pastor of St. Patrick's and became pastor there in 1995, the same year he was named a monsignor.

He has been active in numerous Catholic organizations such as the John Carroll Society of which he is chaplain and the Downtown Washington Serra Club. While a practicing attorney before ordination, he was an associate in the Washington firm of Sidley & Austin and legal consultant to Sen. Pete Domenici (R.-N.M.).

http://www.markcrispinmiller.blogspot.com/

http://www.cathstan.org/news/09-16-04/1.shtml

(Warning: Newsmax link)

About 3,000 of the group's members live in the U.S. It has 1,875 priests worldwide. Opus Dei has opened a $42-million, 17-story headquarters in Manhattan, and operates student outreach centers throughout the country.

Seventy percent of Opus Dei members are married men and women. Known as "supernumeraries," they commit to be guided by spiritual disciplines such as prayer, reciting the rosary, and attending Mass.

http://newsmax.com/archives/articles/2005/4/19/142735.shtml


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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 07:19 AM
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1. Hmmm. I wonder how the evangelicals would react to that.
It seems to me that the Southern Baptists, etc. would be adverse to having Opus Dei control so much of the USSC.
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 07:39 AM
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8. The Ecumenical Right
All things are equal at the top no matter how much they hate each other's
religion. Because they share so many things in common like a personal belief in pyramid elitism so long as they are on top, the same economic values, the same social values, the same beliefs in the state of mankind.

So while some zealous true believers in all the several RW cults savage the other's savaging of themselves, the hate and dangerous conflicts. Those on top are too enriched and powerful to risk the real game on petty ideology.

I once called the Bush team the Cultic Coalition, the Jews, the high Church Catholics and wealthy Born Agains plus the old money WASPs, the Scientologists, Moonies and assorted loonies.

When Rome wanted a dark mirror image of its Emperor Cult it allowed any weak-minded fawning, ineffectual cult with a "traditional" following and with similar characteristics as its own value system to be absorbed. It was called syncretism, actually the eventual shadowy death of all religion into the Emperor cult. As if the Emperor really cared about anyone else anyway. In our days the best that the RW can do is enlist fanatics and loons and people really too blind to see their center is occupied by their enemy. Traditional religions are still being worked on, top down from within and by cultural pressure that is against the majority. At this stage this restoration of empire is desperate so that the differences are as alarming as the similarities.

The former use of the word ecumencial seems diatemtrically the moral and political and doctrinal oppositite if for no other reason than it seemed to leave out as a mtter of fact all such fringes and loons and materialists no matter what religion or culture they sprang from like weeds. Now those excluded from the ecumenical movement by irrational heresy and worldly evils are in the driver's seat. They know it by sheer animal instinct but their language is a borrowed hypocrisy so blinding as to blot out the sun.

Eventually the one world order would be mammon and power served at the top by numerous state protected religions sharing in the goodies and homogenized order. The Pox Americana. But the fact that our intrepid elites have to start out with goons and loons seems to doom this effort to catastrophic failure, not repetition. But what will be the cost this time the statues tumble?
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mandomom Donating Member (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 08:00 AM
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11. Not if it means "winning" elections and power.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 07:21 AM
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2. I doubt it. Not enough kids.
and no self-flagellation marks on his back.

On the other hand, he does have that standard Opus glazed look in his eyes.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 07:29 AM
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3. Roberts should be asked if he is a member of Opus Dei
and whether his wife is a member. This is a legitimate line of inquiry. Perhaps Roberts will lie about this as he did about his membership in the Federalist Society.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 07:32 AM
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4. Do you have proof that Scalia and Thomas are Opus Dei? I know
that rumor floats on the internet but I've never seen proof.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 07:40 AM
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9. Scalia and Thomas are Opus Dei, per MSM
as were former FBI head Louis Freeh, spy Robert Hanssen.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 07:43 AM
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10. What specific MSM sources say "Scalia and Thomas are Opus Dei"?
I know MSM sometimes address the issue but the ones I've read say something like "rumored to be a member of Opus Dei".
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 07:32 AM
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5. I searched for well over an hour one day
Although there seems to be members who wish to remain anonymous, here is a list of prominent members:



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prominent_members_of_Opus_Dei


I knew Scalia was a member, but I did not know that Bob Novack and Sam Brownback were members.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 07:34 AM
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6. Your link says "Unconfirmed, rumoured members" for Father Paul Scalia. n/t
Edited on Fri Jul-29-05 07:36 AM by jody
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 07:35 AM
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7. Don't forget -- the Bushes and Pope Ratzinger are old buddies
Edited on Fri Jul-29-05 07:38 AM by SpiralHawk
Doubleplusungood

http://guerillawomentn.blogspot.com/2005/04/more-on-bush-ratzinger-connection.html

The article traces "Neilsy," the youngest of the Bush syndicate, along the highways and byways of his world travels beginning with the savings and loan scandal that cost us a pretty penny (around $1 billion from us, the American taxpayers. Neilsy paid a paltry $50,000 in fines.) From there we are treated to the tales of his escapades with the likes of the bin Laden family, Jiang Mianheng of Chinese Zemin Dynasty...er...Presidency.

The juicy stuff is in details of the Bush-Ratzinger connection. I won't repeat them all here, just suffice it to say that it has little to do with religious ecumenism and everything to do with possible tax shelters.

There's more if you're interested in Neilsy's longtime business relationship with Syrian-born businessman Jamal Daniel.
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