Latest Kerry email: Keep the Vote Alive

[LittleClarkie]

He writes:

Dear Susan,

How far would you go to protect the right to vote and ensure all Americans can exercise their rights freely in our democracy?

How far would you walk to strengthen our democracy and raise awareness about the importance of voting and voting rights?

On March 9, 1965 Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. led hundreds of brave Americans across the Edmund Pettus Bridge to claim their rights as Americans. 2 days earlier, marchers had been viciously beaten trying to cross the same bridge in what became known as "Bloody Sunday."

Five months later, President Lyndon Johnson signed the Voting Rights Act, one of the most important pieces of civil rights legislation in America's history.

I am inviting you to actively mark the 40th anniversary of that event on August 6th in Atlanta by attending the Keep the Vote Alive march with Congressman John Lewis, one of the marchers on "Bloody Sunday."

Get complete details about the march: http://www.keepthevotealive.com/index.htm

Organized by Jesse Jackson's Rainbow PUSH Coalition, America's civil rights leaders, religious leaders, labor leaders and hundreds of thousands of concerned Americans will gather in Atlanta, Georgia for an historic march to celebrate what was achieved with that historic act and how far we must still go to Keep the Vote Alive in America.

With a current opening on the Supreme Court and the reauthorization of the Voting Rights Act up soon, you and I both know many of the rights and freedoms we have fought for are in jeopardy. So, the gathering in Atlanta will be more than an act of celebration. It will be an expression of our passionate determination to protect one of our most fundamental freedoms -- the right to vote and to have our votes counted.

The gathering in Atlanta is to help Keep the Vote Alive! Join if you can. But if you can't attend, please donate to help us fill buses for your friends and neighbors to travel to Atlanta.

Help fill a bus with marchers: https://contribute.johnkerry.com/friends.html?team=5150

The march in Atlanta will let people know that America remembers the Florida recount in 2000 and the people who waited in line for hours to vote in Ohio last November. And, we know we must continue to press forward to protect our right to vote.

You can be a part of the Keep the Vote Alive march in one of two ways. First, attend if you can. The march will begin at the Richard B. Russell Federal Building, 75 Spring Street, in downtown Atlanta at 10:00 a.m. and proceed down Martin Luther King, Jr. Drive to Herndon Stadium on the Morris Brown College campus where the all-day rally will kick off at 11:00 a.m.

Get complete details about the march: http://www.keepthevotealive.com/index.htm

Second, if you can't attend, help a friend and neighbor travel to Atlanta by donating now to help us fill Keep the Vote Alive buses.

Help fill a bus with marchers: https://contribute.johnkerry.com/friends.html?team=5150

Your generous donation today will help sponsor buses across the South to bring folks to the march who may not have a way to get there otherwise.

Either way, help Keep the Vote Alive!

Just as it was 40 years ago, America's freedom is on the line.

Sincerely,

John Kerry

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One problem: I ain't Susan.

[US Borders]

1. John Kerry needs your money

I am shocked that Kerry still thinks he is a viable option for American voters.

[LittleClarkie]

4. He is.

At least with this voter.

He's entirely too qualified not to be a viable option. At the least, I hope he has a place in the next Dem administration somewhere.

[Mass]

6. Kerry does not - Jackson and Lewis do

[LittleClarkie]

8. but since it was Kerry who told us about it

I guess we'll take it out on Jackson and Lewis.

Fuck them for associating with a loser.

:sarcasm:

[ray of light]

13. let's see you run against cheating vote machines and see how well you do!

by the way, kerry fought in other ways, but I don't expect you to look behind the cameras to see what he did. But he did!

[LittleClarkie]

14. Please refer to the dripping sarcasm

You're preaching to the choir, luv.

[ray of light]

21. OMG I"m soooooo SORRY!

I guess the sarcasm went WAAAAAYYYYYYY over my head.

I really am sorry but bashers frustrate me! And some days, I just wish they could see the truth and see how their bashing hurts progressives!

Actually, I think I clicked on the wrong "reply" button. Still, I'm sorry...

[LittleClarkie]

26. No worries. I appreciate the company

Bashers frustrate me no end too. Esp. when they cough up pre-fab phrases like "too little too late" without much thought because they see the name "John Kerry."

Or when they ask where he's been and why he's so quiet when he's been anything but. Or when they talk about how he had a bazzillion dollars at the end of his campaign when it was not much more than Gore had, or I presume any candidate has left over, esp when I know he's been putting some of that money toward candidates campaigns.

It makes me wonder if I should take some of the other things I learn on this board with a grain of salt after seeing what passes for facts with some people. I mean, Skull and Bones?! Oh. My. God!

I understand that sometimes things are so covered over with smokescreens that we have to decifer, esp when trying to figure out what the Bush admin is up to. But I've spent enough time looking at Kerry to know that some folks have read him wrong, dead wrong. He may play things closer to the chest than some would like, but he is a man of integrity and experience.

I would be proud to call him President some day. Or, if I have to settle, maybe Sec of Defense, Sec of State or Attorney General. There is too much capability there to waste. He's about the most qualified person still that I can think of to be president.

Anyway, glad to see I'm not alone.

[ray of light]

28. Could some of the bashers be "trolls" looking to start in-fighting?

Either way, that is why we have to present the facts, not persist in a battle of the "f-offs" even though that's really tempting too! But sometimes the adrenaline kicks in and the "f-off" sort of wins over the common sense. (lol)

[lateo]

2. blah blah blah...

Sorry Kerry, you had your chance to protect our vote...and you walked away.

[LittleClarkie]

3. He's just reminding ... ahem... someone named Susan... of an event

are you saying blah, blah, blah to the vote rally?

Personally, I like the targetted regional emails. Nice use of the internet.

[lateo]

9. No....

I'm saying blah blah blah to what ever Kerry has to say about rescuing the vote. He had a chance to raise hell about vote fraud in Ohio and...he just packed up and went back to Washington.

Screw him.

[LittleClarkie]

10. I would, darling,

but Teresa would beat me up.

[ray of light]

15. no--he fought without the media knowing, but until HE has the proof you'll

never realize what he did. Just because CNN and FAUX weren't there to document what he did and make him look like a clown like they did al gore, then don't assume he did nothing.

I have the facts and yes--he fought behind closed doors.

[lateo]

20. I don't watch FAUX or CNN.

And the idea that the ENTIRE media would ignore what John Kerry was doing to fight election fraud sounds like a CoNsPiRaCy...

Face the facts...1 day after the election John Kerry abandoned the people who voted for him. He didn't even attempt to fight for Ohio.

Now we have people like you who come out and try to fly some idea that JK is and was fighting the good fight.

He turned tail and ran...and now what? Nothing.

[ray of light]

22. No, sorry, I have facts.

And if the media is so honest then where are the reports about the diebold machines? Where are the reports on the DSM? Where are the reports about the 1000's of people who showed up for the anniversary of the DSM? Where were the protests of the MILLIONS of marchers in DC on selection 2000 or stolen election 2004 or the marches against Bush in NYC last summer? Why is it that the media lies--EXCEPT when it suits the purpose of blaming Kerry?

Some day, I hope that kerry will be able to show the world the proof, but my guess is: there will be a lot of floating bodies of would be whistle blowers.

My belief is that when BushCO is OUT--the whistle blowers will suddenly appear with the evidence--unless their bloated bodies have already floated downstream.

But let me add: I interviewed Bob Fritakis and HE had to keep his sources hidden and he had to not release facts in order to keep his sources safe.

What makes you think KERRY didn't run into the same thing in his "undercover" investigation? HE was a former prosecutor you know! And how many prosecutors do you know go in front of the camera and say, "Mr. Murderer, I have this evidence and that evidence but if you were near xyz street and have evidence related to this murder please walk through the 500 itty-bitty media cameras from around the world and get your face plastered everywhere to make you a really easy target and tell us what you saw!!!"

In fact what makes you think he didn't just hire people to investigate N.M., FL, OH amongst others? Perhaps he did and you just don't know it. After all...how good can a PRIVATE investigator do if the MEDIA is following his coattails?

[FreedomAngel82]

23. Exactly

Nobody knows except for Kerry and people who could possibly be working. I also remember reading someone posted on BradBlog's blog one Saturday in an open thread for the show that one of his daughters was threatned (as in death threats). If you think Kerry can just walk in and "prove" he won then those who think that are highly closing their eyes. Kerry watched what happened with Al Gore who fought in the public light. This time around a lot more work got done. Matt Taibbai is supposed to have an article out sometime early this next week (I think Monday?). So I'll be interested in seeing what he has to say. If you think it's so easy to prove (those who are dissing Kerry) why don't you go prove it?

[ray of light]

25. Yeh.

I'm fairly new here and I can't help wondering if these people who bash kerry are just trying to stir trouble. But I think we have to respond so that both sides get told.

[lateo]

29. There is no question that the media is dishonest...

And you claim to have facts...how about presenting some links to your facts? As far as Kerry goes, you claimed he was fighting from behind closed doors...I want my presidential candidate to scream from the highest mountain IN PUBLIC if he suspects our votes are being manipulated.
Kerry should have been on TV every day talking about this. Gore didn't have a problem getting face time during the recounts.

[ray of light]

31. Really? You do? Hmmm...let's see, if Kerry shouted his evidence

from the highest mountain, how much help do you think the infamous "liberal media" will be?

Sorry, but it seems to me you need to interview REAL police officers and real private eyes and see which way works best to catch criminals.

Gore got lots of face time--you're right about that! They made him look like an ass and a sore-loserman! Great job! Perhaps following the trail of corruption needs to be done in secret, so people who have the facts will actually decide to come forward. AND furthermore, six years later, the media still laughs at Gore, you've got people bashing him still and blaming him to this day!!!

So let's look at the FACTS:

1. GORE was made to look like a clown! And people still hate him and say, "Thank God HE wasn't President when 9-11 happened."

2. Kerry and Edwards SAW they would be hung by the media and still have no better results so they did what any good prosecutor does--they went searching for facts themselves. (Oh...and you want links? Well, gee....let's think about that too!!!! Let's put our evidence here on the internet for the goons to manipulate, RIGHT!!! Gee, let's make it a lot easier for the Freepers too while we're hat it. And let's make it really easy for the whistleblowers to be found floating upstream. (sarcasm!!!)

3. Kerry is still fighting against the BushCo and their corruption and hasn't turned tail and hid.

4. Kerry attempted to recount Ohio and in fact there is a lawsuit still pending in the wings.

Last but not least, you think YOU can do a better job of fighting then YOU run for office and YOU collect evidence of fraud; because frankly, you can sing and dance on top of that mountain, but without EVIDENCE you got NOTHING except a song and dance!!!

[NYCGirl]

32. Using your "last but not least" example, I guess we can no longer

criticize Bush because we've never run or served as president?

[ray of light]

33. You're talking two different things

Criticizing political policies--like John Bolton or Gonzalez-- or someone's social security plan is much different then critiquing how someone choses to fight corruption.

My point was a song and dance on top of a mountain is just like going to a court of law without one shred of evidence to convict the person. Kerry tried to get the evidence to convict but as any detective knows, it takes more than 2 months to find the culprit and collect evidence.

So Kerry CHOSE to fight corruption without the limelight of the media's twisting and spinning facts to a. help the republicans and b. help the felons get away with it, and c. help the whistleblower(s) come forward in safety!

And the fact is, we already have proof that singing from the mountains leaves you with nothing but a sore throat and no proof. "Sore-Loserman!" says it all!

[NYCGirl]

34. We've all heard, incessantly,

"Kerry's working under the radar". We have yet to see any proof of that. Even during the presidential campaign, we were told, "Kerry's planning a surprise," "He's working behind the scenes." "Just wait — he's working under the radar." So you should understand how many DUers might be critical.

I respect Al Gore for standing tall and taking the punches. It was an unbelievably brave thing to do.

[ray of light]

35. NYCGirl, I understand it's frustrating not to see proof

And I understand that even someone just shouting may temporarily make a person feel like something has been done. But vocalness doesn't make it more effective.

If I can use an example from a personal event: A person I know, not me!, was trying to prevent a crime and was very very vocal about what was happening. Yet the people who could have stopped the crime did nothing and just thought of that person as a flake. Later, the crime actually happened but when the police went to investigate, all evidence--every bit of it--was gone...MISSING! The fact is a lot of noice did absolutely nothing to prevent the crime and in the end, the evidence was tossed away.

Another example I know is with a person who worked at a bank. One of the other tellers there had been embezzeling money. It took over a year of research and numerous audits before this person was charged and later convicted of a crime. How was this successful? Did the management tell everyone there that there was an investigation? Nope, they didn't. It was all done in secret and they were successful in bringing charges and getting that person convicted.

Noice is nothing but temporary relief, like a rolaids.

Truce?

[NYCGirl]

36. I don't think we need to

call a truce, because I don't think we were at war. But your examples don't convince me.

In your first example — police or authorities can't investigate a crime until it actually happens. Did this vocal person tell the perp that they had talked? Who did he shout to? Even if he was quiet, the perp might have been cagey enough to hide the evidence.

In your second example — did the embezzlement continue for the year? Didn't the management question anyone in the carrying out of the investigation? If they did, it was not a secret. What if the embezzler had decided to leave the country six months into the investigation?

And, like your earlier post — neither of these examples have anything to do with the question at hand.

So, I'm afraid I'm still at square one.

[ray of light]

37. Actually, the "perp" was both an individual and an oranization.

And the organization is the one who hid the evidence. Sort of like a few individuals committed this crime but the organization (the republicans and who else?) is hiding the evidence.

In the second example, the embezzlement was carried out for quite a long time--and the upper management knew of the investigation but until they had the proof, the other employees were not told. I was not part of the investigation so I'm not entirely sure how it was handled, except to say "it's routine..."


(I know these examples are not the greatest. But I guess you and I are both still at square one!)

[Mass]

5. I guess that some here think The Rainbow Coalition and Lewis are not worth

it.

[LittleClarkie]

7. Nah, they'd rather shoot the messanger

Sorry, folks. Maybe if you pretended that the email was from someone you liked, you could get past that and see that the event itself is worthy.

[Totally Committed]

11. Sorry, LittleClarkie, you are a sweetie pie, but

I cannot get past the infuriatingly ironic title on the OP. Too late to edit?

[LittleClarkie]

12. But that's the name of the Rally

I couldn't remember the title of the email, and didn't copy it down, so I went with the name of the rally. It's not his name, but the name chosen by the organizers of the rally, which I presume was Jackson and such.

So no, I don't think I'll be changing the title.

[Vinca]

16. This is it. I'm opting out of the Kerry mailing list.

He did nothing to protect his own vote and now this. Bull poopy!

[Mass]

17. Yeah. We should screw Lewis and Jackson -

He is helping them, but they must really be bad, as they accepted the help...

Please, opt out, if this was not already done.

[LittleClarkie]

18. Shrug

Looks like an ad for the Rainbow Coalition. I don't see what the hubbub is, myself.

[Mass]

19. It is a rallye to commemorate the 40th anniversary of this event

http://www.horizonmag.com/1/lewis.htm

May be those who criticize should read it, and tell us if it is a bad thing.

[FreedomAngel82]

24. Do you have proof of your alligations?

If you do show it. Do you think you can do a better job? Then go to Ohio and join Cliff Arnebeck and David Cobb. Show them how it's done if you think you can do any better.

[Vinca]

27. Who conceded the election within 24 hours?

Kerry folded faster than a fat girl in a chocolate factory, then let 14 million dollars languish in a bank account instead of investigating claims of voter fraud. Arnebeck and Cobb have been doing one hell of a job, no thanks to Kerry. I don't know how you interpreted what I wrote to be negative to them. They're my heroes.

[lateo]

30. Bingo!

The Kerry apologists keep forgetting that he folded within 24 hours...some fighter he turned out to be.

Gore gave Bush HELL in 2000 and he should have been our candidate in 2004. Sadly, the Democratic party TURNED their back on him.

[bornskeptic]

41. Gore conceded on election night,

then retracted it when it turned out the difference in Florida was only a few hundred votes. Had Kerry been in that position, he would have done the same. When Kerry conceded he trailed by over 100,000 in Ohio.

http://www.historychannel.com/speeches/archive/speech_529.html

[LittleClarkie]

38. Correction: Kerry's concession was the second slowest I've ever seen

Before Gore, concessions were generally made the night before, not that next morning.

And, while Arnebeck and Cobb have been doing one hell of a job, don't forget as well Don McTigue, Kerry's laywer in Ohio, and the lawsuit he filed.

So, some thanks to Kerry and his lawyer.

Also, as a fat girl, I can tell you we don't move all that quickly, chocolate or not. Neither are we terribly bendable, so folding would be out of the question.

You are allowed your own opinion. Just not your own facts, regardless of how you feel about Sen. Kerry.

[Vinca]

39. I don't know why I'm responding, but here goes.

1. I didn't say anything about Kerry's speed in folding his tent, whether it was first fastest, second slowest, etc. All I know is that I was disappointed enough to cry.
2. Arnebeck and Cobb worked on the case for a significant time before the Kerry lawyers appeared. The Kerry addition to the lawsuit seemed almost like an afterthought.
3. I'm also a fat girl and if it's chocolate, I move fast. I'm also willing to bend if it's imported.
4. I'm not a Republican . . . I don't make up facts.
5. Truce?

[LittleClarkie]

40. Ahem

1. I assumed that's what you meant when you said he folded faster than a fat girl in a chocolate factory. How is that not saying anything about his speed in foldiing his tent. What were you talking about, if not that. He did SOMETHING too fast for you.

2. He's there. It's not a foot race. And considering they're still there, it would appear to me more important to them than an afterthought. I think what you saw was Mr. Obsessive/Compulsive taking his time because he was being careful. I will admit that about Kerry. He's cautious and likes to have his ducks in a row before he comes out swinging. I would expect no less from a former prosecutor.

3. Eh, I'm more of a bread girl, meself. Make that garlic bread, and we'll see who's fastest.

4. I didn't think you were making up your own facts, just perhaps jumping to some conclusions, perhaps ignorant of some facts, or letting emotions color over what the facts might be. I certainly wasn't trying to call you a liar.

5. Of course, truce. It's just messageboard talk, really, innit.

Peace.