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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 10:58 AM
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Hackett v. Schmidt:
ON IRAQ & PATRIOTISM:

Schmidt: "I'm glad to hear my opponent finally say he stands with the president."

Hackett: "I not only stood with him - I fought for him," shot back Hackett, who returned in March from a seven-month tour of duty with the 1st Marine Division in Ramadi and Fallujah. ...

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ABORTION

Schmidt: "...would love to see" the U.S. Supreme Court's landmark Roe v. Wade decision ...

Hackett: . "... we need to keep abortions safe, legal and rare!" "Don't tell me how to live my personal life and don't dictate to my wife what decision she makes with her doctor." ...

"I don't want the government in the bedroom any more than I want it in my gun safe or telling me how to worship." ...

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ECONOMY

Schmidt: "We're on the right path, all we need to do is keep moving in the same direction. The key question is, how can we create more jobs in this very diverse district? The president's policies will do that."

Hackett: (who opposes permanent tax cuts) argues that Bush's economic policy;

"(It) darn well isn't working, ..(added that OH-2 has lost thousands of relatively high-paying manufacturing jobs), .... If you think America is on the right track and we need more of the same, I'm not your candidate!" .... "Ask yourself, are you better off today than you were five years ago?


_____________________________________________________________________

If Schmidt wins, we know the accusations about Diebold are a reality. She even LOOKS evil.
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 11:03 AM
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1. Hackett is great off the cuff, his opponent trite.
Thanks for the snip of the transcript! Hackett is really good at this and would be really great to watch on the House Floor standing proud for the people!

btw, Diebold's accusation are a reality - the vote machine is owned by a republican. :evilgrin:
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 11:06 AM
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4. I know the accusations against Diebold are a reality, but the
sheeple don't.

If Schmidt wins after her opponent has this kind of spunk, then I think we might be able to start a better case against Diebold.
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 05:15 PM
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20. Has anyone arranged to do exit polls for this race?
They seem to be even more critical than usual as documentation. I'd love to see someone try to pull a "reluctant Schmidt voter" theory on this one.
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 09:09 PM
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39. I Second that, Cherub!
Really! Hackett says it, boldly and with couragound out-and-out honesty! If he looses, it's rigged.
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KeepItReal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 11:04 AM
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2. That's why I donated to Hackett!
If there is one fair election left in Ohio, I hope this one is it. He should wipe the floor with that rubber stamp Schmidt.

Hey Mr Hackett, :yourock:
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 11:05 AM
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3. '... I fought for him...'
now that's hot!
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 11:08 AM
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5. Schmidt is one mean-ass witch. She has been programmed very
well to lie. If she believes all she says she has to be a robot. She has probably intimidated every voter in her district.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 11:09 AM
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6. Hackett: "Spade is a spade."
DLC: "Spade is a nuanced subject currently; we need to study how our language can be changed about this implement in order to elicit less conflict with our opponents and ideally more swing voters"
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 11:10 AM
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7. Good one!
:rofl:
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 12:17 PM
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8. I caught the vile Schmidt's act on Oberman last night. She was
truly sickening, spewing that crap. Especially that spew about us fighting the terrorists in Iraq so we don't have them fight them over here. I wish a wingnut would ever say that crap to me. I'd have a few choice words about what the Bible says about crap like that. Many commandments are being broken over dubya's Iraq adventure. :puke:
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 03:58 PM
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13. she said that about terrorists after the bombings in London?
OMG :puke:
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 07:31 PM
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56. That was actually on Hardball, not Countdown
David Gregory made mincemeat out of her.
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 12:58 PM
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9. For all the veterans who run for office, this:
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 04:39 PM
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14. And now for a completely random thought. I love your poster. eom
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 04:55 PM
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16. Tis not mine
Tis from about.com's political pictures section
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 05:11 PM
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19. Am on my way there. Thanks.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 01:24 PM
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10. What a GREAT post!
Thanks for taking the time to ferret out those quotes for us.

They only serve to remind us of why this elections is so important on so many levels!
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 01:51 PM
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11. Schmidt thinks abortions cause breast cancer
She blames breast cancer patients saying they probably had abortions.

She even introduced a resolution in the Ohio House to "study the link" between breast cancer & abortion.

Link to the nutcase group she's a member of

http://www.abortionbreastcancer.com/start/
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 08:51 PM
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34. What a total moron!
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jean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 12:55 AM
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45. eeek! if she gets in will they start investigating the birth history of
all breast cancer patients and deny insurance to those who had abortions or what? This woman is shrill and orbiting way out of the mainstream.
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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 03:28 PM
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12. oh my
"I don't want the government in the bedroom any more than I want it in my gun safe or telling me how to worship." ...


this man has got some kind of future
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 04:47 PM
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15. "this man has got some kind of future"...
...and a backbone.
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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 05:21 PM
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21. one and the same eh
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 05:09 PM
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17. I hadn't seen this Schmidt woman before last night when
David Gregory was trying to interview her. She's a nutball pure and simple. All she can do is parrot the Rovian script and she's rude beyond belief. I truly hope Mr. Hackett beats her by a large margin. Not just because he's a Democrat, but because he's obviously SANE!
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Jane Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 07:53 PM
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23. Whew! Hard-looking woman, and hard to listen to.
David Gregory was unflappable with her, and she was rude, rude, rude to him.
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 08:40 PM
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29. Some of the people I canvassed today said she looks like a man...
or a witch

download the PDF: http://bushcheated04.com/hackett.pdf



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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 05:11 PM
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18. Kick
:kick:
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 05:22 PM
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22. Saw her on Hardball, also.
Yeah, is a vile parrot of the Bush Cult.
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 08:05 PM
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24. if Schmidt win has nothing to do with Diebold
It has to do with Republicans not changing their voting behavior. This is a Republican district. If Hackett wasn't such a great candidate, he wouldn't stand a chance.
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Wabbajack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 08:17 PM
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25. It's the most puke seat in Ohio
They don't need to steal it.
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Son of California Donating Member (467 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 08:17 PM
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26. Hackett is fucking old school
he's exactly what the Democratic Party needs. Tough motherfucker, good off the cuff, a little old fashioned but in a this-is-my-choice-now-you-make-yours way
if we had a few more people like this we could take back Congress.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 08:53 PM
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35. Hear hear!
He's my kind of democrat. He is old school. He's like how I am. An old school Kennedy democrat. We need more democrats like him that's for sure!
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 09:04 PM
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38. Though MFer is right! The Good off the cuff is much harder!
I actually think we have lots of Dems who can or could be tough MFer's, but to be good with off the cuff remarks is someting you either have or you don't!

That's exactly what I've been looking for in a Pres. candidate for 2008, but I haven't seen it yet. Clinton had it. He was much more muted, but he was very quick on his feet!

I've seen a little bit of this with Biden, but I still think a win isn't going to come from the Senate!

I'm still searching!!!!!!
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RONSTOO Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 07:25 PM
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55. fucking aye
just like the priest in " The Exorcist " you better be one tough mother fucker and shout down this evil junta until you're blue in the face.


Never ever let these mother fuckers intimidate you.
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Pharlo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 09:03 PM
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57. No, he's too honest. EXACTLY what this democratic party needs
is old school like Richard Dailey and Huey Long. They could take on today's GOP and beat them at their own game.

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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 08:22 PM
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27. Isn't She Leading Big Time In The Polls??? n/t
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 08:46 PM
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30. No she is not , the last official poll had her up by 5% and that was early
Edited on Sat Jul-30-05 08:47 PM by mtnester
last week....the latest is Hackett is polling above her in REPUB internal polls.

You have to understand how republican this district is. For a Dem to be within 20 points of her on a poll is a miracle, to out poll her....what is better than a miracle?
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 08:49 PM
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32. Fingers.... Cross Your Fingers!!!
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 08:57 PM
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37. He also has raised more money than she
Edited on Sat Jul-30-05 08:57 PM by mtnester
this election, IMO is so critical to Dems across the US....the repercussions are almost unfathomable.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 08:31 PM
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28. I think he talks..
exactly the way most Democrats should be talking. Not the wishy-washy way most of them do.
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Darkhawk32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 08:49 PM
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33. I got a fever. And the only prescription...
is more COWBELL!!

Go Hackett go!!!
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 08:54 PM
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36. And one thing I like
is he doesn't apologize for what he says either. I saw him on "Hardball" Thursday night and he was talking with Matthews about how he called Bush a "chickenhawk" and he didn't apologize for it either! He was saying how he respects the office but not the person. :D
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 12:10 AM
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43. You are so right about that.
On the rare occasions a Dem has the guts to tell the truth, too often they will be apologizing for it within 48 hours.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 08:49 PM
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31. Wow
Schmidt really sucks. I saw her on the CBS segment they had about Hackett and she just gave pure crap. Pro-life and pro-family and supporting the president. :eyes: While Hackett gave real answers and tried to tell about what all he believes in as fast as he could and as clear as well. I agree, if Hackett doesn't win either there are serious problems there are the people of Ohio like that type of crap with Schmidt.
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 01:19 AM
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48. She may deserve it, but I don't
please keep the comments appropriate for a progressive forum.

Instead of calling her a "bitch" can we call her a rude ignorant corrupted piece of scum? It's gender neutral, and won't give the impression that part of your well-founded contempt for her as a person is in some way related to her gender.

Kind of like how we didn't resort to racial slurs when that ass-wipe Keyes was running. He earned my contempt purely on his merits.
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Hailtothechimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 10:17 AM
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51. Sorry I offended you, but....
I truly think the word "bitch" has meanings that do not tie to gender alone. When someone "bitches and moans" about something (and I do this too) they aren't putting all women down by using the word. The old saying "Payback's a bitch" is meant to say payback is (and I'm quoting from Mirriam Webster's College dictionary, Tenth Edition) "something that is highly objectionable or unpleasant". Just as I find Ms. Schnmidt in Ohio to be.

If you think my use that word was an attempt to put down all women (including my wife and two daughters), I can't stop you. But I can't buy into your idea of purging the word from the language altogether, either.

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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 12:23 PM
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53. It is offensive
Edited on Sun Jul-31-05 12:23 PM by lwfern
Please see the DU rules on sexist language: http://www.democraticunderground.com/forums/rules_detailed.html

I understand you aren't trying to be sexist; it's a byproduct of our society. The reason the word has a negative connotation is because of its association with females. Historically it became a term used for women to liken them to dogs - women who had large litters (sexually promiscuous), and from that mutated into slang for malicious women. The other negative variations of the meaning derive from that.

I certainly wouldn't accept the use of the word "nigger" in my presence - even though the dictionary shows an alternate meaning "a disparaging term for a member of any socially, economically, or politically deprived group of people: “Gun owners are the new niggers... of society.” Think about WHY it means what it does. That's why it's offensive.

If you wouldn't use racist slurs, don't use sexist ones. I don't think that's too much to ask. At least not on a progressive forum.
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Hailtothechimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 07:17 PM
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54. We'll have to disagree on this word, then.
The word "hysterical" has a negative connotation because it was once thought that the uterus was the root of certain types of behavior. By that logic, I am not be capable of "hysterical" behavior, either being funny or out of my mind nuts, because I'm not a woman and don't have a uterus. But I'm fairly ceratin the word has been used about me at some point in my life.

I went back and read DU's guidelines too. The long version. And it did specifically reference the word in question as one that I "should" avoid, but it also says that no words are automatically forbidden. Which I can only assume includes this word too.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 10:43 PM
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41. Hackett rocks
I'm in California and doing phone bank work to get out the vote for Hackett. He is within striking distance of the Republican. She's a short woman who wears scrunchies in her hair and is very proud of her lips being firmly attached to Bush's ass.

Chris Matthews tried pummeling Hackett but he stood firm with a smile on his face. Good on him.
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ArchTeryx Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 11:12 PM
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42. And if Hackett loses?
I think our side wins either way.

If he wins, awesome! It sends a very clear message.

If he loses by a narrow margin? It STILL sends a very clear message. He can run again in '06. Or better the hell yet, he's available to run as a potential SENATE candidate. Think about that, Ohioans: Paul Hackett, your US Senator.

I am still rooting for him to win. But I think a candidate like this is destined for greatness, win, lose, or draw.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 12:14 AM
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44. About him running next year
if he doesn't win I have heard he will go back to Iraq if he doesn't win. :(
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 12:55 AM
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46. I heard this, too.
Very sad.
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mconvente Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 01:00 AM
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47. heard that too... n/t
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ArchTeryx Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 06:05 AM
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49. Going back??
I'd start one heck of a letter-writing campaign pleading for him not to do so -- and I hope the Democratic establishment would do the same. He could do the country so much better here then over there.

But if that IS his intention? It marks him as more of a patroit then the entire Nixon/Bush chickenhawk cadre put together. Period.
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CTLawGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 09:22 AM
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50. He's a Dean style candidate -says what he thinks, doesn't back down
and look how well he is doing. He could win this thing.
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MinneapolisMatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 11:44 AM
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52. That is awesome.
God I hope he wins. PLEASE LET HIM WIN. I need some ray of light right now!!! Maybe the Diebold techies will forget to rig it this time.

-Matt
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