Bernie Golderberg "no longer likes being associated with elitist liberals"

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

Everyone Loves a List
His previous books accused the media of liberal bias. Now Bernard Goldberg takes aim at Michael Moore and Al Franken—plus 98 other Americans.

By Carl Sullivan
Newsweek
Updated: 12:26 p.m. ET July 30, 2005

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8765687/site/newsweek/



NEWSWEEK: Are liberals really more responsible than conservatives? Isn’t there plenty of blame to go around?

GOLDBERG: Even when I agree with my liberal friends on this issue or that issue, I no longer like being associated with them. It isn’t because of their politics. It’s because of their elitism. They look down their snobby noses at ordinary Americans who eat at Red Lobster or because they like to bowl or they go to church on a regular basis or because they fly the flag on the Fourth of July.

NEWSWEEK: What are your politics?

GOLDBERG: I used to be a full fledged card-carrying liberal. And then “liberals” happened. The people who used to look up to JFK now look up to Michael Moore . Moore 20 years ago would have been a fringe character on the left. Now he represents mainstream liberalism … I guess I’m conservative on some issues, but on certain social issues, I’m quite liberal. I don’t care if Adam marries Steve. I have publicly said that I would make racial discrimination not just a civil offense but a criminal offense. But I’m against affirmative action because I don’t see why the children of Diana Ross should get some extra points but the sons of an Anglo-Saxon coal miner from West Virginia don’t get any points. I do have more friends on the right than I do on the left. They’re not social friends, but I admire Rush Limbaugh and Bill O’Reilly a lot because I think they’re standup guys.

[wli]

1. well duh, he's a goose-stepping neocon

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

2. I saw him on "The Daily Show"...

...and would have to add "self-satisfied smarmy weasel" to your description. I guess the freeps love this crap.

:shrug:

[mark11727]

11. Stewart handled him pretty good, though, as I recall...

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

20. It was excellent, and very subtle...

..Jon whacked him pretty hard a couple of times but he was so wrapped up in himself that it shot right by him.

[mark11727]

23. Called him on most of the 100 peoples being liberals...

... and added at the end of the interview "when I go on YOUR show, then your audience can applaud YOU" or something like that.

[democrat in Tallahassee]

36. He's a Drunk

I picked up Bernie's book a read a page or two.

The book is so poorly written that my immediate thought is that he has a serious drinking problem and this dreadful cut and paste job was all he could manage in his drunken stupor.

It truly is the worst book I have ever seen.

[LeftyDarthBrodie]

3. Michael Moore making a movie

is worse than Rush's drug abuse and O'Reilly's sexual harrasment. Only in the mind of Bernie Goldberg.

[Fridays Child]

4. Fine! If he's going to be like that...

...I'm taking him off my Christmas card list, right now! :eyes:

[tsuki]

5. Oh, that says it all. He doesn't like liberals because they're

elitist (what's the matter, do they think they are as good as you think you are?) But he admires the old Falafel Man and the Doper, because they're stand up (if they're sober.)

What a putz.

[Gabi Hayes]

6. when's the last time that pompous dickworm ate at Red Lobster?

what, did he read David Brooks lying piece on not being able to find a meal over $20 in some hard rock, red state town?

and, did the simpering interviewer ask him to tell the story about how liberals preach that women don't need MEN? (in his first book he cut and pasted a story from MRC, which cited a "study" purporting to show that women didn't need men, or something similar, when the study actually involved.....bugs! that shows what a good reporter he is. he didn't even read the story that the MRC didn't read, either)

[Skidmore]

31. Jeez, Red Lobster isn't exactly a cheap night out for us.

But guess since we're elitist, it must be. Hey, I'm a snob! I'd better get a manicure so I can get the garden dirt from under my nails.

[Pithy Cherub]

7. Now who is going to be our intellectually inferior chew toy...

:shrug:

[phaseolus]

8. Heart of the matter

...and somebody needs to get some hard numbers together to prove this, is that now and for the last 10 or 15 years being a vocal conservative in the media pays a lot better than being a vocal liberal or a centrist.

[stevietheman]

29. I suspect Rush knows this all too well...

heck, I wouldn't even be surprised if Rush didn't most of what he spewed... he probably thinks of himself as a well-paid entertainer... to heck with American political discourse! He's got his!

[BrklynLiberal]

9. Sounds like a kid who wasnt asked to join a club and is now bad

mouthing it. When was he EVER associated with liberals?

[AntiCoup2K4]

10. Bernie's last neocon payola lie of a book merely made me laugh

This one makes me puke :puke:

I think we need to combine our own list of the 100 people fucking up America.

It took me about 5 minutes to come up with thirty names for the list when another Goldberg thread was posted last week.

Here's my 30:

1. George Walker Bush Jr.
2. Dick Cheney
3. Donald Rumsfeld
4. Paul Wolfowitz
5. Karl Rove
6. "Scooter" Libby
7. Scott McClellan
8. Condaleeza Rice
9. Richard Perle
10. Alberto Gonzales

11. Al From
12. Bruce Reed
13. Will Marshall
14. Marshall Whitman
15. Tom Vilsack
16. Evan Bayh
17. Joe Lieberman
18. Mary Landrieu
19. Joe Biden
20. Hillary Clinton

21. Rupert Murdoch
22. Sean Hannity
23. Bill O'Reilly
24. Brit Hume
25. Tim Russert
26. Leslie "Wolf" Blitzer
27. Rush Limbaugh
28. Dana Milbank
29. Tucker Carlson
30. Anndrew Coulter

Obviously, I picked from categories here. First the Fraudministration, then the DLC, and finally the Whore Media. But feel free to add your own from any category. I'll bet we could get 100 tonight. And I encourage those of you who have been drinking or consuming herbal substances especially :evilgrin:

[Jane Austin]

40. Where's Grover Norquist? And Richard Mellon Scaife?

Man, there are just too many of them to recall!

[brentspeak]

44. Why am I not surprised to see you take this opportunity

to bash Democrats? Vilsack and Bayh, those really "powerful" Democratic Senators from Red States, sure do have the authority to screw up this country - especially compared to Republican Senators, who currently have absolutely no power at all to get their way...

:nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:

[AtomicKitten]

12. Well, that works out just great

cuz Bernie sucks ass and no liberal elitist want to hang out with him either.

[Old and In the Way]

13. Rush Limbaugh makes $20MM/year and lives in gated community

Rush only uses common people as mules for his narcotics habit. I'm sure O'Reilly couldn't tell you the last time he hung around with a common person. Moore, on the otherhand, seems very grounded in his roots. He's been fighting for the common guy since his Flint, MI days. I have no doubts Bernie prefer's Rush and Bill's company, but it's because he likes to run in their elitist circles.

Of course, he had to forsake the label, "liberal", that's the price to be paid for admission in that rarefied club of Republican media apologists.

[Maat]

14. O.K.

Am I wrong - or did Dude have a serious-a** facelift?

(Sorry, it's the Californian in me)

[HootieMcBoob]

15. What has Michael Moore done that they hate so much?

Stand up for the rights of the American worker?

Question the number of deaths by handguns in the USA?

or the big one....

Tell the truth about the Iraq War at the Acadamy Awards and...
make millions of dollars by exposing George Bush and his corporatist ilk as the criminals that they are?

Moore's whole career has been about supporting the working man and woman in this country and exposing the bullshit that of large corporations who have been Goldberg's meal ticket for his entire career.

Do we see a pattern here? What a Putz.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

16. What a whiny little punk.

Check out Al Franken's last book. He has a hilarious chapter in there called "I bitch-slap Bernie Goldberg."

[FreedomAngel82]

25. That's possibly why

he has his little book out and really slamming Franken. He can't take it so he has to show he's the bigger person and the more "in touch". :eyes:
He's also a loser.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

27. Exactly.

And the irony is that more actual people have willingly paid full price to read Franken's book while Goldberg's fancy bound toilet paper is sold in bulk to RW book clubs at a cheap discount.

[gumby]

17. Scatological reply.

Goldberg is a pile of doo. Crap on him. I grew up in a bowling alley, thank you very much, and I know a pile of stinking poo when I smell one.

Since the beginning of his "book career," Goldberg hasn't been able to make any logical points, so he turned his Shit Shooter to "culture." As a "cultural" elitist shitty snob, he can say anything. It's like being a movie reviewer. He can spout any crap about anybody at any time, because.... it's just a movie review. Don't ask him for facts, figures or scientific studies... it's just a 'cultural analysis.' What a crapola scam.

Goldberg is a crap scammer. And he is so very smug as he says nothing while he spreads his shit.

[Cha]

18. Don't worry..you're a

freakin' traitor in my book, bernie.

Ya Freakshow.

[niallmac]

19. He admires Rush Limbaugh and Bill O'Reilly? He was NEVER a liberal.n/t

[Changenow]

21. If there were such a thing as an elitist liberal

the creature wouldn't miss him.

Normal liberals view this as good riddance to bad rubbish.

[Rob H.]

22. "I used to be a full fledged card-carrying liberal." Code for:

"I called myself a liberal early in my career, but then I started to make lots of money and thought, well, fuck regular people. The GOP will do everything in their power to help me hang onto that money so now I'm gonna join up with them, instead."

It always makes me laugh (ruefully) when people like Goldberg, Limbaugh, O'Reilly, and Hannity sneer at "elitist liberals" or "limousine liberals." They all have tons of money and it isn't as if their hero Bush was po' white trash before he entered politics, either. (Hannity actually backed out of a university speaking gig because the student organization that was bringing him in couldn't provide a private jet that met his high standards and refused to fly on a commercial airline even though he would've had first class tickets. Truly, he is a man of the people. :sarcasm:)

Edit: shpelling.

[FreedomAngel82]

26. Oh good grief on Hannity

What a moron. And I remember on this one board someone always made the point of refering back to Kerry and being rich and Teresa when they had nothing else to say about an issue. Of course I (and probably others) on there would tell how Bush was born rich as well and never had a real job in his life but they simply ignored that. At least Kerry worked in the summer while he was in college at a bottle factory making extra cash and didn't just mooch off of his parents. He also once slept on friends couches and had to borrow money so he knows what it's like.

[Rob H.]

42. I know exactly what you mean

There are people I work with who tried to use that same argument when it was so easily defused by reminding them that not only is Bush's family wealthy, in all his failed business ventures there were always people willing and able to bail him out. His business failures would've ruined a "regular guy," which despite all evidence to the contrary they still believe Bush is.

It's like the whole "flip-flopper" argument against Kerry--Bush is more of a flip-flopper than Kerry ever was.

Bush was for regulating CO2 emissions, then he was against it, claiming something like, "all the science isn't in on it yet."

First Bush was against forming the 9-11 Commission, then he was for it. After he agreed to let it be formed, he tried to cut its funding. He said he would speak to them--then he said he wouldn't. Then he agreed to speak to them, but only if he wouldn't be under oath and only if Cheney were there with him and no recording devices were used during their testimony. He said Rice could testify under oath, then he said she wouldn't. Then he said she would. When the commission asked for an extension he denied it--as a result of a public outcry, he granted it.

This is a key thing that my GOP co-workers don't seem to get: given the choice between doing what's ethical or taking action to cover his own ass, Shrub's first instinct to is to cover his own ass every time. It's only when he's found out that he does the ethical thing and then he acts as if it was his idea all along; naturally the corporate media almost never (well, okay, never) calls him on it.

These same people I work with still make cracks about France, too, FWIW. Yeah, we were so right about Hussein having WMDs and giving in to France's (and Germany's, too, iirc) desire to give the weapons inspectors more time would've been such a waste. :sarcasm:

[FreedomAngel82]

24. Oh you ignorant fool!

I'm a church going and Red Lobster eating libreal who admires JFK. So you can shove it jerk.

[atommom]

28. By "elitist" I assume he means the people who see through his

bullshit, and are irreverent enough to call him on it! He is a big elitist himself, whether he'll admit it or not.

[kodi]

30. once again an attack from the Right on objective thinking and rationalism

the term "elite" in america is not one defining the money elite, that would smack of class warfare, and the Right can't handle that. instead they focus on and demonize as "elite" a nearly powerless segment of society that demands objective, critical thinking when discussing subjects of importance.

this goldberg is a putz and a fraud. he is making his schekels by feeding the masses a con job that has no relationship with the facts.

[Skittles]

32. the word "elitist" gives him away

he is a republican whore. LOL, he thinks our problems with bush voters is they eat at Red Lobster and go to church? What a tool.

[FlyByNight]

33. Rush Limbaugh and Bill O'Reilly...

are "standup" guys? Bernie, you're an ignorant moron. You sound like a petulant child. "It isn’t because of their politics. It’s because of their elitism." What the fuck does that mean? Nothing but meaningless, vague double-speak.

Rush, the doctor-shopper, is an addict, liar and raging hypocrite. Mr. Family Values spokesman is a 3-time divorcee and has no children of his own. He advocates harsh treatment for those addicted to some substance but he seems to be immune from his own "philosophy". OxyContin is, apparently, OK but pot is demonic. Uh huh.

Falafel Bill had to pay some woman off so she wouldn't bring a sexual harassment suit. He's probably sexually repressed as he feels has has to dominate women (or generally, those who work for/under him) to validate his position. He's a bully and a loudmouth.

Wake up Bernie. Stupid ass.

:grr:

[Orlandodem]

34. I eat at Red Lobster, go to churhc, fly the flag and bowl.

Seriously.

Not one liberal has ever looked down on me.

[Cassandra]

39. I don't know....

bowling always creeped me out. I think it was that EVERYONE could see how badly I was bowling. It was just too embarrassing when I was a teenager.
As for chain restaurants; in many places (not all) there are better, cheaper places to eat if only people were adventurous enough to look for them. Even in expensive NYC, there are plenty of neighborhood places that are better and cheaper than the chains, which are surprisingly expensive.

[bvar22]

35. Good.

I wasn't going to invite him over anyway.
:puke:

[GCP]

37. Is it really true that Jimmy Carter is number 6 on his list?

As they said on TDS?

WTF is this guy smoking??? :wtf:

[Ishoutandscream2]

45. Yes, true. Amazing, isn't it?

[Neshanic]

38. Odd, CBS letting him go, and VIOLA! He's a neocon.

Not bad cashing those paychecks for all those years at CBS.

Is he going the same way as Dennis Miller, but Bernie got in when the market was relatively low for ass kissing sellouts. Dennis waited too long and look where he is.

[terrya]

41. Give me a break. There aren''t any elitist right wingers? Tucker Carlson..

leaps into mind, for instance.

This Bernard Goldberg character is a sad, bitter man who has a gigantic chip on his shoulder for some self-perceived "slights" from when he was at CBS News.

[brentspeak]

43. He realized there's money to be made sucking up to conservatives

and repeating their talking points.

That's why he no longer associates with liberals.

[Libby2]

46. Fuck him and the horse he rode in on n/t

n/t

[DinahMoeHum]

47. What a dildo.

Loser.