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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 09:10 AM
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Hardball : shilling
Of course. Klein suggesting plausible deniability for Bush, Woodward shilling for the administration about Wilson; making Rove's position sound sensible. :puke:
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 09:11 AM
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1. Hardball is on this morning? NT
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 09:17 AM
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4. Tweety has a 9:30AM CT program every Sunday
which precedes MTP.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 09:20 AM
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5. Oh, The Chris Matthews Show.
Not Hardball.
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 09:21 AM
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6. 10 AM Eastern
I guess it's just Chris Matthews rather than Hardball. Maybe we should call it Softball, since limpball is already in use.
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Julius Civitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 09:13 AM
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2. Woodward's position is just incomprehensible
Talk about doing a 180!!! This guy has gone from exposing Watergate to lodging his head way far up Rove's ass.

Shame on him!
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 09:32 AM
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7. I understood him...he said that the Special Prosecutor has not yet been
able to pin a crime on the WH, but that everyone in the WH is denying and concealing. If Fitzgerald can pinpoint the crime, they will have a "perfect storm" (a phrase he used twice), and they'll have a "big story."
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 09:40 AM
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10. Did you feel he might know more than he's saying?
Woodward, that is. If he used "perfect storm" twice that might be significant. It's hard to know with him.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 12:01 PM
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12. He seemed to be somewhat pleased by the idea, but I agree, it's hard to
read Bob Woodward. And we know he can keep a secret for a LONG time!
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 09:45 AM
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11. I did also and regardless of how anyone feels about
Tweety, I'm happy to see he hasn't let this important issue drop.
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wildwww2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 09:32 AM
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8. Protecting the corporation that pays for the lies he tells. Woodward
is a good soldier for the elimination of freedom of the press. Which only exists to please the GOP in their quest to make anyone left of Stalin look unpatriotic. As the start of this thread mentions it is just shilling.
Peace
Wildman
Al Gore is My President
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 09:33 AM
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9. Actually, Klein's "plausible deniability" comment suggests...
a concerted effort to keep the accountability away from Bush (as usual). The SCLM would rather we have a dictatorship than another Watergate, or worse, from Republicans. Blaming Democrats for everything is just fine, though. :eyes:
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Call me Deacon Blues Donating Member (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 09:15 AM
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3. Hardball: Schilling


I know, I know, he's a Republican. I just couldn't resist. :)



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slaveplanet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 12:54 PM
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13. they're trying to put up flak
Edited on Sun Jul-31-05 12:54 PM by slaveplanet
and obfuscate the controlling law....

TREASONGATE: The Controlling Law - Big Trouble For The White House Staff.


The controlling law for Treasongate has been greatly ignored by the main stream media and the blogosphere. This article seeks to clarify the controlling law.

To determine the controlling law, all one needs to do is read the non-disclosure agreement Karl Rove and all of the members of the Bush administration with security clearance signed which included the following statement:

" I have been advised that any unauthorized disclosure of classified information by me may constitute a violation, or violations, of United States criminal laws, including the provisions of Sections 641, 793, 794, 798, 952 and 1924, Title 18, United States Code, the provisions of Section 783(b), Title 50, United States Code, and the provisions of the Intelligence Identities Protection Act of 1982."

Sanctions for a breach of the non-disclosure agreement are provided for by Executive Order, but those sanctions are ancillary to the United States Code provisions cited in the paragraph above which stand alone.

Please notice that the Title 18 United States Code statutes are separate statutes that precede the first mention of the "Intelligence Identities Protection Act". The complicated "Intelligence Identities Protection Act" of 1982 which has been exclusively discussed by the media is not controlling. Rove and company may be guilty of violating that act, but prior United States Code statutory law and Federal case law, specifically 18 USC 793 as interpreted by United States v. Morison (and related cases) has been breached and should lead to convictions under the facts known to the public at large. 18 USC 793 provides for a maximum of ten years in prison to those convicted under this statute.

snip...

The law does not create an exception for releasing classified information that may already be in the public domain. It makes no difference if Valerie Plame was known to some people somewhere in the world as a CIA Agent.

The applicable statutes were violated regardless. In conclusion, I find it quite incredible that the main stream media, and for that matter the blogosphere as well, has failed to bring these very applicable statutes and court decisions to the immediate attention of the People of the USA.

http://citizenspook.blogspot.com/
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