Name me ONE of the spineless Dems who are pro-marijuana.

[LoZoccolo]

Not just legalizing it for medical purposes, but ones that are willing to stand up and say "we smoke pot, and we like it a lot" on the floor of congress if necessary. They are there to represent ME, and that's the kind if thing I would say if I were on C-SPAN.

I'm sorry, but I can no longer stand up for the SPINELESS Dem party, who were pro-marijuana before the DLC triangulation third way came along, who have no differences between the Republicans on this now. Who is there to vote for when the two parties are the same?

_{NOTE: This post is sarcastic.}

[tofubo]

1. i gots a spine and look @ my avatar n/t

[Pepperbelly]

2. none of them were before ...

geez, give me a break.

I do think we should start a MYOB wing of the party. In fact, I think there might be a HUGE number of votes to be tapped there and I am entirely serious.

[LoZoccolo]

6. MYOB...Moke Your Own Bud?

Also, some of us have been used to this triangulation and compromise for so long that we don't remember when Democrats were REAL progressives, all the way to marijuana and further. Why would they represent the people, the fifty percent that don't vote because there is no difference on grass, when they are taking money from chemical and pharmaceutical interestes who have sought to restrain the power of the hemp seed and stem and hemp oil?

_{NOTE: This post is sarcastic.}

[Pepperbelly]

7. there is nothing sarcastic about this however ...

I think there is a huge untapped resavoir of citizens who would respond to the political message ... Mind Your Own Business. How many people are really tired of government bunglingly telling us what is good, what is bad, what we should avoid or embrace, who we should marry and with whom and how we should copulate. These self-righteous fucks have no standing to tell anyone any of those things.

I say to the gov ... Mind your own business.

[expatriot]

10. it would turn many more away than it would bring in.

if the Democrats made it a campaign issue, the Republicans would have a FIELD day... gosh, this post was all fun and stuff until you came along and messed it up. :)

[Pepperbelly]

11. hey ... MYOB!

:D

[LoZoccolo]

13. Actually, seriously, Pepperbelly I think has it right.

I've seen polls that convinced me that decriminalizing marijuana would actually be a winner; I was surprised, but it's actually a pretty good issue. It may be a good wedge between the rugged individualist part of the Republicans who listen to Mancow or Ted Nugent and the "moral values" voters. I think it's worth testing the waters in a few places, maybe in the west where Republicans tend to be more libertarian.

Here in Chicago, there was a step by the mayor to lessen the penalties for posession, and it really wasn't that controversial:

http://www.mpp.org/IL/alerts_626.html

[donsu]

16. they can't decrim maryjane cause the private prisons would go out of

business

[dogday]

22. Ah and there is the Rub

Think about how many are financed due to marijuana laws. Judges, Lawyers, Law Clerks, Bailiffs, Prison Labor... It's a sweet deal....

[Pepperbelly]

19. I certainly don't think we would do any worse than we have and ...

I for one would LOVE to have one or two realistic positions to embrace for the party instead of the same tired bullshit.

Government! MYOB.

And even if we drove some way, we'd attract others and I guarantee that our parties would become losts more fun.

[etherealtruth]

15. I agree with the political impact this would likely have ...

I personally would like to see pot and most other "recreational" drugs legalized ... legalize it, tax the hell out of it and use that money for "public health."

Funny thing is : I strongly desire that my kids not drink alcohol, smoke pot or cigarettes or engage in any other use/abuse of recreational drugs ( I don't)----I don't think that the current tactics designed to reduce or eliminate 'illicit" drug use accomplishes anything!

[Pepperbelly]

18. my kids are grown and do none of those things ...

although my son in the Navy does, on occasion, enjoy a cold beverage with his friends. I did the same when I was in the Navy. My experiences tell me that those who are bent toward addiction will have addictions while those who do not ... well, there it is.

It happens inside a person, and not affected by law or policy.

[etherealtruth]

24. Exactly ....

... and making users (or addicts) criminals for it is ridiculous. It also squanders financial and law enforcement resources. I really am not passing judgment on what other people do ---- my lack of use has to do with what I feel is MY inability to use these things judiciously (and lack of enjoyment with use).

[expatriot]

3. lmao... good post.

i love it.

[pitohui]

4. gore said he inhaled EOM

.

[expatriot]

9. but he did not elaborate on how much he ENJOYED it....

He did not sing the praises of the sweet bud to the nation.

just in case: :sarcasm:

[kid a]

5. They're working on the 6 foot prop bong for their speech

[Cocoa]

8. is your post sarcastic?

if that's a sig line, it's potentially very confusing...

[jobycom]

12. Statehood for Jamaica! Spicoli for Congress! Though now that you mention

it, Congress would certainly be more amusing to watch if they were stoned.

My theory is that half the neocons are on coke, and that's why they are so belligerent and incapable of adult thought. Pot might loosen them up a bit, make them into human beings.

[ClassWarrior]

14. LoZoccolo, apparently.

You said name one.

NGU.

[tmorelli415]

17. Why stop there? If the REALLY had spines they'd be pro-drug, pro-hooker

legalize all of 'em: heroin, cocaine, meth... (can't think of any others but I'm sure there are some)

and also legalize prostitution, and public nudity...

folks got rights, ya know...

now THAT would be SPINE! But no-o-o-o-o-o they spend all their damn time rubber stamping the republicans on judges, and war, and social security, and what-have-you.

republican-lite is all. when i can walk down the street nekked and smokin crack, and buy me fine a hooker without bein harrased by some jesusfreaks, then that'll be progress!

[Pepperbelly]

20. my! Aren't you pleasant.

:eyes:

[Old_Fart]

21. Jerry Brown

But he wasn't spineless. I give up :shrug:

[Cascadian]

23. Another reason I cannot stand the DLC.

eom



John

[wli]

25. frankly the whole "war on drugs" is a prison/drugs profiteering racket

Decriminalize all drugs, free all the drug prisoners, and prosecute "war on drugs" war criminals who sponsored Latin American death squads etc. for crimes against humanity.

The whole thing has a dual purpose: prison profiteering and cornering the drug market.

[Zhade]

26. The intent of your post is unclear to me.

What are you trying to say, exactly? I know it's sarcasm (because of course even the Dem party has pushed the bullshit lies about marijuana since the days of FDR), but why you chose marijuana to make whatever point you're trying to make is beyond me.

[Eloriel]

27. This is the kind of post that makes me suspicious

(His post, not yours)

It seems to me it would be the KIND of post that a plant would use to draw out marijauna users and so forth. Or perhaps just to gather material for some of conservative blogs and even MSM press to discredit DU.

There are two things about the post, and the sentiment, that combine to make me worry: The attack on Dems in Congress for not supporting ALL legalized marijuana (not just medical m.j.) is over the top to start with (not just the political position but the hyped language to present that position), and second, at a time like this, when there are SO many really urgent things going on politically, if this is one of this DUers' highest priorities, that poster is either not all that credible to start with, or has a larger purpose in mind. Or, I wouldn't have thought being high would elicit this type of post, but -- ?? -- that's a version of "not credible."

I am certainly NOT making the charge -- it's just that, as I said, a post like this makes my alarm bells go off. Sometimes even the best DUers post stupid stuff (I guess).

[LoZoccolo]

29. That's because you missed the fine print at the bottom.

Not my signature in grey, but the stuff in black above that.

[LoZoccolo]

30. I am making fun of litmus-test voters.

And also demonstrating that one person's litmus test is not another's.

[Fire]

28. You said it, too bad you are sarcastic

I'm no libertarian, in fact I'm pretty socialist. But when it comes to civil liberties and being able to do what one wants with ones own body, I'm considering siding with them. What I see from the democratic party is selling out a woman's right to choose, selling out the gay community by not taking a stronger stance against the "moral" fascists out there, shifting dramatically in favor of censorship of media that I enjoy such as Grand Theft Auto and other video games, and a continuation of their long held support along with the repugs of the failed war on drugs. I like the idea of safety nets and universal health care but what is life without liberty?

Mind Your Own Business!

[CTLawGuy]

31. oh by all means you nailed it

we should just shut up and smile while the DLC dems vote with the Republicans. Hell lets just merge with the Repugs. That way we will win 100% of the time. that would be awesome. and if those uppity activists start whining, we'll accuse them of being unreasonable and trying to divide the Democrats.

Besides, activists are ruining the party. Al From told me so.
:eyes:

[Guaranteed]

32. Hey, legalizing marijuana and being against the Iraq War are EXACTLY the

SAME THING! :P

[CTLawGuy]

33. yes of course

1600 dead = no big deal.

They can go screw themselves, I want to be ELECTABLE!

cause obviously all swing voters are Republicans, hence we have to support republican policies to get them.

[Guaranteed]

34. Plus, our beliefs are clearly wrong! nt

[CTLawGuy]

35. and there are no actual liberals

well, perhaps those who say that should leave the South at some point and get perspective.