Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Just a reminder - Senate Repubs don't represent the majority

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
ltfranklin Donating Member (852 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 02:19 PM
Original message
Just a reminder - Senate Repubs don't represent the majority
According to Professor Matthew Shugart from the University of California-San Diego, for the past three election cycles over 200 million votes were cast in races electing our 100 Senators. Republicans won 46.8% of the votes in these elections -- not a majority -- but the Democrats won more votes, 48.4%. Yet the GOP currently holds a lopsided 55 to 44 majority. In 2004, Democratic senatorial candidates won over 51% of the votes cast, yet Republicans won 19 of 34 (56%) contested seats. So the minority party holds a majority of Senate seats.

In fact, the GOP has been over-represented in the Senate in nearly every election since 1958, primarily due to Republican success in low-population, conservative states in the West and South which are given equal representation with high-population states like California. The 52 Senators confirming Clarence Thomas in 1991 represented only 48.6% of the nation's population, showing that a Senate majority can confirm a justice for life even though they represent a minority of voters.

Reforming the Supreme Court Appointment Process by Steven Hill - ZNet

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 05:42 PM
Response to Original message
1. gerrymandering in action
Time for proportional representation.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ltfranklin Donating Member (852 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 07:36 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. Well, the Senate's not supposed to be proportional
The House is supposed to handle that part, the Senate's supposed to be about Representating the State's interests, but I'm tired of hearing Repub Senators spouting off about their supposed majority power when they don't even have a majority of the voters behind them. What they seem to forget is that when they get elected, they're supposed to represent ALL the people of their state, not just the ones who voted for them. Anybody with the least amount of respect for the office would at least make an ATTEMPT to take the wishes of all the voters in their district, not just the ones in their party. Managing to get 51% of the voters in the gerrymandered districts you "represent" seems to mean you can ignore the other 49% that DIDN'T vote for you.

Ah, well, I suppose I'm just being a little idealistic here. The real world says you reward your friends and crush your enemies, even if your "enemies" are your neighbors and, by the way, help pay your salary.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 10:34 PM
Response to Reply #2
6. yes, that's the idea
The original intent was, of course, to make the Senate regional representation. The neofascists would lose with proportional representation, and it's less exploitable in general.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ISUGRADIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 08:05 PM
Response to Reply #1
3. you can't gerrymander the senate, the boundaries never change
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KBlagburn Donating Member (409 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 08:45 PM
Response to Reply #3
4. Your exactly right.
Edited on Sun Jul-31-05 08:46 PM by KBlagburn
The "districts" for senators is the state line.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ltfranklin Donating Member (852 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 09:03 PM
Response to Reply #3
5. Whoops, you're right...sorry.
I got into answering the post about Gerrymandering, and forgot Government 101. But the idea still stands, they're only representing the people of the State that voted for them, and ignoring the ones who didn't. It's a misapplication, I think, of the fundamentals of our Representative government, that the Senators are only representing the wishes of those who voted for them, rather than the entire population of the State.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Dec 27th 2024, 07:53 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC