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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 10:00 AM
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How Intelligence and Facts Were Being Fixed
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How Intelligence and Facts Were Being Fixed

When the Downing Street Minutes began to gain some notoriety in May and June, the President and Prime Minister Blair answered a question about it briefly. Interestingly, both seemed to want to spend the most time talking about the minutes' contention that the President had always intended to go to war (despite the President's public pronouncements to the contrary). That was a smart thing to do, in a political sense, because the President's state of mind is a much more difficult allegation to prove, requiring subjective interpretations of the President's actions.

The contention they seemed inclined to avoid entirely was the minutes' claim that the intelligence and facts were being "fixed" around the policy. Only Blair briefly responded to that allegation by saying: "No, the facts were not being fixed in any shape or form at all." Whether that is true or not in the case of the British government remains to be seen. It is certainly false in the case of the actions of the United States government.

How were the intelligence and facts being fixed? We are starting to see the tip of the iceberg. There is, of course, Joe Wilson. A career public servant, he had the audacity to come back from Niger to tell this Administration news they did not want to hear: claims that Saddam Hussain was trying to acquire uranium from Africa were false (and based on obvious forgeries). So they went after him by outing his wife's identity as a covert CIA operative. Thus, the facts and intelligence were being fixed around the policy of going to war --- the method: ignoring information that conflicted with the preferred narrative that Saddam Hussain had WMD and smearing anyone who espoused such heresy in the hopes that the smear would deter other whistleblowers from coming forward.

Now, in today's New York Times comes another allegation of fixing the facts and intelligence around the policy. The lead paragraph:

"The Central Intelligence Agency was told by an informant in the spring of 2001 that Iraq had abandoned a major element of its nuclear weapons program, but the agency did not share the information with other agencies or with senior policy makers, a former C.I.A. officer has charged."

Later:

"The officer, an employee at the agency for more than 20 years, including several years in a clandestine unit assigned to gather intelligence related to illicit weapons, was fired in 2004. In his lawsuit, he says his dismissal was punishment for his reports questioning the agency's assumptions on a series of weapons-related matters. Among other things, he charged that he had been the target of retaliation for his refusal to go along with the agency's intelligence conclusions."


Sounds familiar doesn't it?

Blogged by JC on 08.01.05 @ 09:19 AM ET
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 10:15 AM
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1. "fixing the facts"
building the case for war included both manufactured information (e.g. forging the Niger memo, Saddam had WMD, Powell's little white vial etc) and suppressing dissent (e.g. attacking CIA personnel who outed the lies, questioning the patriotism of those against the war) ...

fitting into this pattern, in a most frightening way, are the 9/11 attacks themselves ... this does not prove LIHOP and it does not prove MIHOP ...

but seeing and understanding the long-term web of lies to build support for the invasion of Iraq, it would seem to me that only fools would dismiss a neo-con planned 9/11 as a very real possibility ... if evidence was manufactured to make the case for war, perhaps events were manufactured as well ...

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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 10:43 AM
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2. We didn't have a reason to invade Iraq
according to my understanding of the rules of the constitution and congress. We were not attacked by Iraq nor Threatened by Saddam to attack. Yeah, I know, "he attempted to kill my daddy" theory. Maybe he should have stuck with that theory! made more sense. There was absolutely no indication that Saddam was even able to attack us, not like the Saudis were and others. All the other reasons Bushco claimed were irrelevant. We all know N. Korea and possibly Iran had the means to make weapons that could directly affect us. We allowed, so I understand, Pakistan to acquire the bomb. Will the repubs get antsy over the Bolton thing? This is all to bizarre.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 10:57 AM
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3. may i quote myself?
"That's what you get for fixing the intelligence around the plan: bad intelligence.
The least controversial thing i can say about it, is that in their eagerness to follow the paradigm of prevention our leaders have become paranoid, taking away our freedoms and killing innocent people while failing to protect us. All that i can expect from them is more of the same."
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 12:45 PM
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4. You may!
Well said!
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 04:18 PM
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5. .
:kick: for the afternoon crowd.

JC deserves our support!
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