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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 10:28 PM
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5 Million Uppity People needed in Washinton DC Sept 24-26 2005
Martin Luther King Jr! We FEEL YOU ROLLING OVER IN YOUR GRAVE!

We are LIVING IN A NIGHTMARE! I WANT MY COUNTRY BACK! NOW!

Gonzales clears Ohio of Vote Fraud. Bush still loves Rove ENEN THOUGH HE'S A TRAITOR. Mamma always said, "You can tell a person by the company they keep."

WHAT IS ALL OF THIS?? HOW CAN BUSHCO get away with this? BECAUSE WE ARE LETTING THEM.

I need 5 Million People to get up and MOVE IT to DC - or the other protest sites September 24 to stand out in front of the White House and SCREAM - "NO MORE LIES!" "WE THE PEOPLE --- DEMAND JUSTICE!!"

I'll be there and I will have a megaphone. How many of you will be there with me?

If you can't be there, send some unemployed young person in your stead. There are buses coming from states all over.

God help us. And for the Agnostics and Atheists, Hindi's, Buddhists, Muslims, Jews and all others among us who don't believe in the white bread God of America - insert your own vision of God or Good, but call on it and get off your asses and put feet to your faith!

MAKE THIS DEMONSTRATION BIGGER THAN ANY EVER BEFORE.

Call it a REVOLUTION if you like, but BE THERE. If you can't be there physically, give me your user name and I will put you on my DU sign.

I WANT BUILDINGS TO RUMBLE WITH THE STRENGTH OF OUR VOICES!

I WANT CAR ALARMS TO GO OFF ---- ACROSS THE POTOMAC!!

I WANT AIRPLANES TO CLIMB TO HIGHER ALTITUDES TO AVOID THE TURBULANCE OF 5 MILLION PEOPLE STANDING TOGETHER AND MAKING SUCH A NOISE THAT NO REPUBLICAN ANYWHERE CAN IGNORE.

ARE YOU WITH ME?






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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 10:29 PM
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1. I will be there with angrier and tears shown in my face.
:kick:
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 10:35 PM
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4. 4 million and a few more to go! PEACE or IMPEACHMENT - both are good
There are two events going on... because of my flight time, I won't be on time for the peace march unless I can get bumped to an earlier one... but this group (United for Peace and Friends) is there for 3 days, so they will see a bit of me.

Did you see the post on DU Meetup after rally? BTW

http://www.unitedforpeace.org/article.php?id=2854
Sept. 24-26 D.C. Anti-war Mobilization


Three Days of Action for Peace and Justice in Washington, D.C.
---------------------------------------------------------------

Saturday, September 24
Massive March, Rally & Anti-war Fair
Gather 11:00AM at the Washington Monument



Sun., Sept. 25 - Interfaith Service, Grassroots Training
Mon., Sept. 26 - Grassroots Lobby Day and Mass Nonviolent Direct Action and Civil Disobedience



• UFPJ approach to 9/24: Unity in the Streets
• Receive email updates
• Latest details
• Download leaflets and outreach materials
• Order buttons
• Download website banners
• Endorse the mobilization
• View list of endorsers
• NYC mobilizing
• Offer or find a ride on our rideboard



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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 10:34 PM
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2. and if anyone needs a place
(cheap and basic) to stay please pm me


take good care everyone
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 10:52 PM
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5. I've also got some lines on B&B's for people who gasp at DC hotel prices.
There are a lot of B&B's which offer more for the same or lower price of a lot of hotels.

If you can handle "just the basics", there's even an International Hostel that has rooms for $30 single and $60 double. I'm looking for it as we speak, but I'm finding that:

Some are even less.
http://www.washingtondchostel.com/prices.html
2451 18th Street N.W. Washington, DC 20009 - $23 a night.

Hostelling International Washington, D.C, Washington DC - $24 +$3*
1009 11th St. NW, Washington, DC 20001
Metro: Mount Vernon Square/UDC (Yellow and Green lines)
*if you aren't a hostel member


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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 10:55 PM
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6. great information
and thanks for posting those links
there are options and hopefully this will be so big that we will need all these rooms and more

and again if anyone needs a place or just wants a cheap place in dc (like those listed in above links) please do let me know
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:14 PM
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9. B&B's that were available today at 2pm...
Edited on Mon Aug-01-05 11:25 PM by Tigress DEM
Call 877-893-3233 M-F 8-5pm EST for updates on availability:

http://bedandbreakfastdc.com/properties/listingview.php?listingID=3

GO IN STYLE - 1 small double w/shared bath ($110) - and that includes breakfast. (On edit the...) private entrance apartment w/queen bed ($175) (...does not include breakfast.)




Abigail Christy ($185) Queen bed/Private Bath ... and breakfast

http://bedandbreakfastdc.com/properties/listingview.php?listingID=6



DUPONT CIRCLE - 5305 (2 @$165 & 1 @ $150)/ 5302A ($159 & $149) and 5302B (2 twin $139)

http://bedandbreakfastdc.com/properties/listingview.php?listingID=45

Just cause you're protesting doesn't mean you can't have the most kick ass bed in town!



5302A

http://bedandbreakfastdc.com/properties/listingview.php?listingID=36

5302B

http://bedandbreakfastdc.com/properties/listingview.php?listingID=61

Little Farther, but still doable...

Guest House @ Cathederal $100 for a double or queen w/private bath

http://bedandbreakfastdc.com/properties/listingview.php?listingID=65




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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 10:35 PM
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3. im riding the peace train there
it's gonna be BIG!
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 10:58 PM
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7. Whooo! WHOO!
ANSWER will be there too... and I know a lot of people have issue with them, but I don't fully know why.

http://answer.pephost.org/site/PageServer?pagename=ANS_S24index

<clip>
Mass March on
Saturday, September 24
in Washington D.C.

Regional demonstrations
San Francisco - http://www.actionsf.org
Los Angeles - http://www.answerla.org
Seattle - http://www.answerseattle.org

September 24 in DC: Transportation Network now up and running!
Tuesday, July 12, 2005
Additional flyers, posters & stickers available

Permits obtained for September 24!
Thursday, July 7, 2005
September 24 mobilization moves forward

New flyers, posters & stickers available online for Sept. 24 Mass March in DC
Wednesday, July 6, 2005
Street Outreach Teams continue to hit the streets across the country

The September 24 mobilization is taking off
Thursday, June 30, 2005
The antiwar movement needs your help

A.N.S.W.E.R.'s response to Bush
Tuesday, June 28, 2005
Hit the Streets September 24!

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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:01 PM
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8. Count on it. I'll be there for sure!!!
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:16 PM
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10. You going to the DU meetup afterwards?
7/27: LynneSin has found a hotel for DUers to stay. The Capitol Hill Suites has reasonable rates and is central to the protest-route and DU related events.

http://www.starwoodhotels.com/gx/search/hotel_detail.html?propertyID=97504 Capitol Hill Area - about $192

200 C St Se Washington, DC 20003
http://maps.yahoo.com/maps_result?addr=200+C+Street+SE&csz=20003&country=us&new=1&name=&qty=

ALSO: After the RALLY SATURDAY

Who: All DUers
What: The Mother of all DU Meetups party
When: -Saturday night- September 24, 2005. (After the march)
Where: RFDs (a.k.a.: D.A.'s Regional Food & Drink)
810 7th St. NW
Washington, DC., 20001
202-289-2030
Directions: Half a block from the Gallery Place/Chinatown Metro Red Line Exit. One block from the MCI Center. 1 1/2 blocks from the new convention center.
http://maps.yahoo.com/maps_result?addr=810+7th+St.+NW&csz=20001&country=us&new=1&name=&qty=
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OKDem08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:41 PM
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16. Tigress
Thank you for the info. That would be a bit of a stretch financially but I'm trying to convince my husband it is absolutely imperative that we do this. It's something I feel strongly about.
:hi:
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:56 PM
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20. Hostels for as low as $23 a night... and Bus or Ride Shares going on...
Edited on Mon Aug-01-05 11:57 PM by Tigress DEM
The organizers know that we DEMS are being squeezed tighter than tight, so they even have scholarships (for bus rides) if people can't go and people on the DU are offering to arrange rooms for people if needed.

Or you can do like I did and show hubby the B&B prices compared to the hotels... we found one that works, but I could have gone as cheap on those as $75 if you can deal with sharing a bathroom..

Or how about a girls trip? You can get as many as 5 people in some of the B&B's and then you can all split the bill.

Would be absolutely awful if you missed this. It's bigger than Selma and it's our time to be the ones... we gotta march hand in hand down the road to the White House and tell that man to get out!



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OKDem08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:59 PM
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22. Thanks again!
I'm absolutely determined to make it happen! :bounce:
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 11:18 AM
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46. I'm trying to get a group of DU gals
from the Detroit area together. We're still figuring out the best way to go and not have to take the bus, drive all night Friday and come back right after the rally, driving all night again. We'd like to stay at least one night and meet up with everyone. I suggested sharing a room and am waiting to hear what everyone wants to do.

One way or another, I plan to be there!
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 11:17 PM
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63. Good for you!!!
Check out the DU meetup info here too - LynnSin has something arranged for Friday and Saturday nights at least.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 02:45 PM
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53. I'll be there! n/t
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 11:17 PM
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64. Rock ON!!
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 03:27 AM
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39. Yikes
I don't think that would be financially okay with me unless about four other DUers wanted to stack up and it sounds like most of these would require us to be cord wood.
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 11:20 PM
Response to Reply #39
65. You mean the B&B's? Hostels are 23 - 60 a night.
Also way up post some local DU's in DC will help with people finding places to stay - maybe with local residents or something... so don't let money keep you away if you really want to go.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 02:38 PM
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51. I'll be there too...wouldn't miss is.
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 11:21 PM
Response to Reply #51
66. Hi Autorank!
How are things going?
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 12:23 AM
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68. To the Thread.... and Autorank too... FBI or News Contacts - Lawyers...
Edited on Thu Aug-04-05 12:24 AM by Tigress DEM
(I'm posting fast... so best to go to the web site vs me making every link live.... ALSO THINKING... WE NEED PEOPLE TO BRING #1 VIDEO CAMERAS AND #2 REGULAR CAMERAS - I have a digital I will bring.)

The upside is to DOCUMENT THIS WONDERFUL EVENT ---- Hopefully post it on IndyMedia sites ASAP (I will also bring my laptop, so if people have compatible MEM cards I can probably put things on line very fast.)

HOWEVER, KNOWING THE ADMINISTRATIONS TRACK RECORD>>>>> we are also covering our collective rear ends in case anyone gets into a false arrest situation. I'm thinking most of us don't want to actually go past the point of being "civil" in our disobedience, but with as many people as there are going to be there in DC we might get into sticky situations and we'll have to be able to vouch for each other's good behavior - preferably with film or pics in hand.

Here is a site that addresses issues of participation in a mass mobilization. Like insurance if we all have the "national lawyers guild html pdf" and the "aclu lawyers list" printed up in quanities to hand out and have them posted in each of our rooms, it is less likely we will need them and if we do, well we will be able to get to them quickly. Or if some other group gets in trouble, we can hand them out as they are being dragged away... I think.. read the stuff below first before quoting me on that.

:hide:

http://uproot.info

<snip>
resources:

action handbook for getting organized to travel and participate in a mass mobilization

action planning guide for planning satisfying actions

what to do if you are contacted by the fbi:

katya komisaruk's excellent guide (including questioning tricks and tips on how to remail silent) html pdf .

national lawyers guild html pdf . aclu short long . hang this sheet next to the front door
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 12:30 AM
Response to Reply #68
69. To the THREAD.... Sept 25 - Messages from the Spiritual Community
http://www.unitedforpeace.org/article.php?list=type&type=90


Lots here, but I like this part...

<snip>
An Open Letter to the President




An Open Letter to the President of the United States and U.S. Congress

We, the undersigned, write this letter to express our deep disappointment and moral outrage at the passage of the $82 Billion supplemental budget for the continued war against and occupation of Iraq. We as people of faith stand firmly against this war. The best support for our troops would be to bring them back to their families. It is highly disingenuous on the part of the administration to attach the war appropriation bill to the funds for the Tsunami relief efforts and other humanitarian aid. We see this as a political ploy to secure votes and make Tsunami victims no more than political pawns. We write this letter in the light of the above to remind ourselves and others including our national leadership of the following:

First, our nation entered into the war on false pretense and fear and violated international law. Religious leaders from every faith tradition opposed the preemptive war on the people of Iraq because of half-truths, our administration's haste to make war, and the reckless abandonment of democratic processes. The facts remain clear and evidential. After over two years, there has been no discovery of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and there was no Iraqi connection to the terrorist attacks of September 11th.

Second, the continued presence of American troops in Iraq only heightens the risk to the newly formed and fragile government of Iraq. The rising insurgency in post-election Iraq is a symptom of the occupation. The over 1500 U.S. casualties and over 15,000 injured American soldiers combined with the innumerable Iraqi lives lost and destroyed continue to bring dishonor to the precious name of democracy.

...... more >>>>>>
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 12:33 AM
Response to Reply #69
70. TO THE THREAD.... Thots on the MEDIA


http://www.unitedforpeace.org/article.php?id=2813


How to Get Media Coverage

1. Identify what’s "newsworthy." There is a big difference
between an issue and a news story. We
can assist the media in covering issues that are
important to us by letting them know when a related
"story" emerges. What makes something
newsworthy? Controversy, anniversaries, civil disobedience,
human interest, strange bedfellows,
superlatives (first, biggest, etc.) If a topic isn’t newsworthy
- no matter how important - they probably
won’t cover it.

2. Develop written materials. The first thing a reporter
is likely to ask when you call them to pitch a
story is: "Do you have anything in writing?" Help
make their job as easy as possible by developing
brief, easy-to-read materials. Especially important
is a 1-2 page media advisory or press release with
details of an event or news story. The style and
content should resemble a simple newspaper
story, with strong headlines, facts and quotes.
When possible, other background materials can
be helpful, including fact sheets, spokespeople
bios or report summaries.

more >>>>>>>
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:29 PM
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11. United for PEACE Ride Board
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:34 PM
Response to Reply #11
13. More Transportation Info --- CAN ANYONE SEE HOW HUGE THIS IS?
http://answer.pephost.org/site/PageServer?pagename=ANS_S24_transportation

<snip>
Transportation to
September 24
National Mass March in DC
& regional actions in San Francisco,
Los Angeles & Seattle


To list transportation from your city, fill out our easy-to-use online form

To contact the A.N.S.W.E.R. Coalition about ideas and suggestions,
email info@internationalanswer.org.
Please contact the following groups only for
transportation inquiries pertaining to your area.


Alabama

Birmingham, AL
Please see Gulfport, MS



California

Castro Valley, CA
CONTACT:
castrovalleybus@answercoalition.org
TRANSPORTATION DETAILS:
Contact for details
TRANSPORTATION ORGANIZED TO:
San Francisco, CA

Chico, CA
Chico Peace and Justice Center
CONTACT:
chicobus@answercoalition.org
TRANSPORTATION DETAILS:
Contact for details
TRANSPORTATION ORGANIZED TO:
San Francisco, CA

Davis, CA
See Sacramento/Davis

Los Angeles, CA
A.N.S.W.E.R LA
CONTACT:
(323) 464-1636 or email la@internationalanswer.org
EVENT:
Assemble at 12 noon at Olympic & Broadway downtown

Mendocino, CA
CONTACT:
mendocinabus@answercoalition.org
TRANSPORTATION DETAILS:
Contact for details
TRANSPORTATION ORGANIZED TO:
San Francisco, CA

Marin, CA
Peace and Justice Coalition
CONTACT:
marinbus@answercoalition.org
TRANSPORTATION DETAILS:
Contact for details
TRANSPORTATION ORGANIZED TO:
San Francisco, CA

Mariposa, CA
CONTACT: mariposabus@answercoalition.org
TRANSPORTATION DETAILS:
Contact for details
TRANSPORTATION ORGANIZED TO: San Francisco

Mendocino, CA
CONTACT: mendocinobus@answercoalition.org
TRANSPORTATION DETAILS:
Contact for details
TRANSPORTATION ORGANIZED TO: San Francisco

Merced, CA
CONTACT:
mercedbus@answercoalition.org
TRANSPORTATION DETAILS:
Contact for details
TRANSPORTATION ORGANIZED TO:
San Francisco, CA

Modesto, CA
CONTACT:
modestobus@answercoalition.org
TRANSPORTATION DETAILS:
Contact for details
TRANSPORTATION ORGANIZED TO:
San Francisco, CA

Nevada County, CA
Nevada County Peace Center
CONTACT:
nevadacountybus@answercoalition.org
TRANSPORTATION DETAILS:
Contact for details
TRANSPORTATION ORGANIZED TO:
San Francisco, CA

Occidental / Sonoma, CA
Bohemian Grove Action Network & Sonoma Cty Free Press
CONTACT:
occidentalbus@answercoalition.org
TRANSPORTATION DETAILS:
Contact for details
TRANSPORTATION ORGANIZED TO:
San Francisco, CA

Placerville, CA
CONTACT:
placervillebus@answercoalition.org
TRANSPORTATION DETAILS:
Contact for details
TRANSPORTATION ORGANIZED TO:
San Francisco, CA

Richmond, CA
West County Toxics Coalition
CONTACT:
richmondcabus@answercoalition.org
TRANSPORTATION DETAILS:
Contact for details
TRANSPORTATION ORGANIZED TO:
San Francisco, CA

Sacramento/Davis, CA
CONTACT:
sacramentobus@answercoalition.org
TRANSPORTATION DETAILS:
Contact for details
TRANSPORTATION ORGANIZED TO:
San Francisco, CA

San Francisco, CA
A.N.S.W.E.R SF
CONTACT:
(415) 821-6545 or email sf@internationalanswer.org
EVENT:
Gather at 11am at Dolores Park (Dolores St. between 18th and 20th Sts.)

San Jose, CA
South Bay Mobilization
CONTACT:
sanjosebus@answercoalition.org
TRANSPORTATION DETAILS:
Contact for details
TRANSPORTATION ORGANIZED TO:
San Francisco, CA

San Luis Obisbo, CA
CONTACT:
sanluisobisbo@answercoalition.org
TRANSPORTATION DETAILS:
Contact for details
TRANSPORTATION ORGANIZED TO:
San Francisco, CA

Santa Cruz , CA
CONTACT:
santacruzbus@answercoalition.org
TRANSPORTATION DETAILS:
Contact for details
TRANSPORTATION ORGANIZED TO:
San Francisco, CA

Sebastopol, CA
CONTACT:
sebastopolbus@answercoalition.org
TRANSPORTATION DETAILS:
Contact for details
TRANSPORTATION ORGANIZED TO:
San Francisco, CA

Solano, CA
CONTACT:
solanobus@answercoalition.org
TRANSPORTATION DETAILS:
Contact for details
TRANSPORTATION ORGANIZED TO:
San Francisco, CA

Sonoma, CA
See Occidental / Sonoma

Stockton, CA
San Joaquin County Peace & Justice Network
CONTACT:
stocktonbus@answercoalition.org
TRANSPORTATION DETAILS:
Contact for details
TRANSPORTATION ORGANIZED TO:
San Francisco, CA



Delaware

University of Delaware
CONTACT:
delawarebus@answercoalition.org
TRANSPORTATION DETAILS:
Contact for details
TRANSPORTATION ORGANIZED TO: Washington, DC




District of Columbia

Washington, DC
A.N.S.W.E.R. Coalition
CONTACT:
(202) 544-3389 or email dc@internationalanswer.org
EVENT:
Gather at 12 noon at the White House



Florida

* Bus *
Gainesville, FL
CONTACT: gainesvillebus@answercoalition.org
TRANSPORTATION DETAILS:
Bus leaving at 4:30 PM on 9/23.
Leaving DC 8:30 PM 9/24 and arriving back in Gainesville around Noon on 9/25.
Cost: $110 payable by Sept.8th
Pick up point in Gainesville is yet to be determined.
TRANSPORTATION ORGANIZED TO: Washington, DC

* Van *
Gainesville, FL
Florida Speaks Out
CONTACT: gainesvillevan@answercoalition.org
TRANSPORTATION DETAILS:
We are renting 12 person vans, and will reserve motel rooms. We are hoping to keep the cost under $100 per person (not including personal expenses)
TRANSPORTATION ORGANIZED TO:
Washington DC

Jacksonville, FL
Wage Peace, Inc.
CONTACT: jacksonvillebus@answercoalition.org
TRANSPORTATION:
Contact for details
TRANSPORTATION ORGANIZED TO:
Washington DC

Sarasota, FL
New College Alliance for Peace
CONTACT: sarasotabus@answercoalition.org
TRANSPORTATION DETAILS:
Contact for details
TRANSPORTATION ORGANIZED TO:
Washington DC

St. Petersburg, FL
St. Pete for Peace
CONTACT:
stpetebus@answercoalition.org
TRANSPORTATION DETAILS:
Contact for Details.
TRANSPORTATION ORGANIZED TO: Washington, DC



Georgia

Macon, GA
CONTACT:
maconbus@answercoalition.org TRANSPORTATION DETAILS:
Contact for details
TRANSPORTATION ORGANIZED TO:
Washington DC



Illinois

Chicago, IL
A.N.S.W.E.R Chicago
CONTACT:
(773) 920-7545 or email
chicago@internationalanswer.org
TRANSPORTATION DETAILS:
Contact for details
TRANSPORTATION ORGANIZED TO:
Washington DC




Indiana

Evansville, IN
CONTACT: evansvillebus@answercoalition.org
TRANSPORTATION DETAILS:
Contact for details
TRANSPORTATION ORGANIZED TO:
Washington DC



Kentucky

Louisville, KY
Louisville Peace Action Community
CONTACT: louisvillebus@answercoalition.org
TRANSPORTATION DETAILS:
Bus leaves Friday, Sep 23 from Executive West Hotel and arrive back at about 7 a.m. Sunday, the 25 $100.00 round trip, scholarship money is available. Pick-up in the Lexington area.
TRANSPORTATION ORGANIZED TO: Washington, DC




Louisiana

Lafayette, LA
The Palestinian American Congress
CONTACT: lafayettebus@answercoalition.org
TRANSPORTATION DETAILS:
Contact for details
TRANSPORTATION ORGANIZED TO:
Washington DC


Maine

Bangor, ME
CONTACT:
bangorbus@answercoalition.org
TRANSPORTATION DETAILS:
5 passenger car with 3 or 4 vacancies. Plenty of trunk space.
TRANSPORTATION ORGANIZED TO:
Washington DC



Maryland

Baltimore, MD
CONTACT: baltimore@internationalanswer.org
TRANSPORTATION DETAILS:
Contact for details
TRANSPORTATION ORGANIZED TO: Washington, DC



Massachusetts

Ashland, MA
CONTACT: ashlandmabus@answercoalition.org
TRANSPORTATION DETAILS:
Leaving on Sept. 23. Deposit of $100 per person is due by Aug. 1 to secure your spot. Final payment is due by Sept. 1.
TRANSPORTATION ORGANIZED TO: Washington, DC



Michigan

Ann Arbor, MI
CONTACT: annarborbus@answercoalition.org
TRANSPORTATION DETAILS:
Leaving Friday night, Sept. 23 about 9 pm and returning Sunday morning, around 6 am. Tickets are $75 round trip.
TRANSPORTATION ORGANIZED TO: Washington, DC

Sault Ste. Marie, MI
CONTACT:
saultstemariebus@answercoalition.org
TRANSPORTATION DETAILS:
Contact for details
TRANSPORTATION ORGANIZED TO: Washington, DC



Mississippi

Gulfport, MS
South Mississippi United for Peace
CONTACT:
gulfportbus@answercoalition.org
TRANSPORTATION DETAILS:
Leaving early Friday, Sept 23, pickups possible in Mobile, Montgomery,& Birmingham, AL; & Chatanooga & Knoxville TN. Carpools possible from New Orleans,Tuscaloose,Huntsville. Ride all day and overnight, Arrive DC about 10 AM, Depart about 5 PM, meal stop about 6, overnight and all day ride home. Round trip cost $120 per rider. Make checks to "South MS United for Peace" to assure a seat.
TRANSPORTATION ORGANIZED TO:
Washington DC



Nevada

Reno, NV
CONTACT:
renobus@answercoalition.org
TRANSPORTATION DETAILS:
Leaving Reno the morning of Sept 24 and return in the evening. Tickets will cost $20 each; however, free seats are available for those who are unable to pay. To reserve your seats contact us and be sure to note how any seats you will need and any special accommodations you will require.
TRANSPORTATION ORGANIZED TO:
San Francisco



New Jersey

Hackensack, NJ
NJ Independents
CONTACT: hackensackbus@answercoalition.org
TRANSPORTATION DETAILS:
Departing 4:45 am on Saturday September 24, 2005. Pickups from Hackensack (Essex Street Train Station), Newark (west side of Union Station) and New Brunswick (Rutgers University Student Center on College Ave). Returns late same day. Contact for details
TRANSPORTATION ORGANIZED TO:
Washington DC

Linwood, NJ
Coalition for Peace and Justice
CONTACT: linwoodbus@answercoalition.org
TRANSPORTATION DETAILS:
Buses leave Cherry Hill Mall, 7:00 am.
Buses leave Cape May Court House 7:00 am, and Shore Mall, Pleasantville, 7:30 am, with stops possible in Woodstown, NJ and Delaware. Cost is $25 per person and $20 low income.
TRANSPORTATION ORGANIZED TO:
Washington DC

New Mexico

Albuquerque, NM
CONTACT: albuquerquebus@answercoalition.org
TRANSPORTATION DETAILS:
The trip includes one round-trip ticket from Albuquerque to DC on bus, 2 nights in DC. The bus departs sept. 21st and returns back on the 26th of September.
TRANSPORTATION ORGANIZED TO: Washington, DC




New York

Cobleskill, NY
Peacemakers of Schoharie County
CONTACT: cobleskillbus@answercoalition.org
TRANSPORTATION DETAILS:
Contact for details
TRANSPORTATION ORGANIZED TO:
Washington DC

Geneseo, NY
CONTACT:
geneseobus@answercoalition.org
TRANSPORTATION DETAILS:
Contact for details
TRANSPORTATION ORGANIZED TO: Washington, DC

Kingston, NY
Please see New Paltz, NY

New Paltz, NY
Hudson Valley Activist Newsletter
CONTACT: newpaltzbus@internationalanswer.org
TRANSPORTATION DETAILS:
Leave early in the morning & return home late at night, cost $45.
To reserve seats, contact us and tell us you want a reservation. Supply your name, town, boarding location (Kingston, New Paltz or Poughkeepsie), email address and telephone number. Then make out your check to "Newsletter" and mail it to PO Box 662, New Paltz, NY 12561.
TRANSPORTATION ORGANIZED TO: Washington, DC


New York City, NY
A.N.S.W.E.R NYC
CONTACT:
(212) 533-0417 or email nyc@internationalanswer.org
TRANSPORTATION DETAILS:
Contact for details
TRANSPORTATION ORGANIZED TO:
Washington DC

Poughkeepsie, NY
Please see New Paltz, NY



North Carolina

Charlotte, NC
Action Center For Justice
CONTACT: charlottebus@answercoalition.org
TRANSPORTATION DETAILS:
Contact for details
TRANSPORTATION ORGANIZED TO:
Washington DC

Fayetteville, NC
Faith Christian Outreach Ministries, Inc
CONTACT: fayettevillebus@answercoalition.org
TRANSPORTATION DETAILS:
Departing 12:00 am on September 24. Cost is $55 per person.
TRANSPORTATION ORGANIZED TO:
Washington DC



Oregon

Ashland, OR
CONTACT:
ashlandbus@answercoalition.org
TRANSPORTATION DETAILS:
Contact for details
TRANSPORTATION ORGANIZED TO: San Francisco



Pennsylvania

Lancaster, PA
CONTACT:
lancasterbus@answercoalition.org
TRANSPORTATION DETAILS:
Contact for details
TRANSPORTATION ORGANIZED TO: Washington, DC

Philadelphia, PA
Phila. IAC
CONTACT:
philadelphiabus@answercoalition.org
TRANSPORTATION DETAILS:
Contact for details
TRANSPORTATION ORGANIZED TO: Washington, DC

West Chester, PA
The Chester County Peace Movement
CONTACT: westchesterbus@answercoalition.org
TRANSPORTATION DETAILS:
Buses leaving 7 am from West Goshen Shopping Center, off Route 202 Paoli Pike exit - public Park-n-Ride on Paoli Pike. $25 payable to "The Chester County Peace Movement," $15 for students and senior citizens, financial assistance available. RESERVATIONS necessary and due Aug. 30. Anyone under 18 must be accompanied by a parent.
TRANSPORTATION ORGANIZED TO:
Washington, DC



Tennessee

Chatanooga, TN
Please see Gulfport, MS

Memphis, TN
Mid-South Peace and Justice Center
CONTACT: memphisbus@answercoalition.org
TRANSPORTATION DETAILS:
Contact for details
TRANSPORTATION ORGANIZED TO: Washington, DC



Texas

Dallas, TX
CONTACT:
dallasbus@answercoalition.org
TRANSPORTATION DETAILS:
Vehicle driving to DC that can accommodate 3 additional people. Contact for details about departure and return plans.
TRANSPORTATION ORGANIZED TO:
Washington, DC




Vermont

Burlington, VT
Peace & Justice Center
CONTACT: burlingtonbus@answercoalition.org
TRANSPORTATION DETAILS:
Leaving at 8pm on Friday Sept. 23, getting back to Vermont around 7am Sunday. The cost is $75.
TRANSPORTATION ORGANIZED TO: Washington, DC

Montpelier, VT
Peace & Justice Center
CONTACT: montpelierbus@answercoalition.org
TRANSPORTATION DETAILS:
Leaving from the Berlin Park & Ride at 7pm on Friday Sept 23, getting back to Vermont around 7am Sunday. The cost is $75.
TRANSPORTATION ORGANIZED TO: Washington, DC






Virginia

Harrisonburg, VA
CONTACT: harrisonburgbus@answercoalition.org
TRANSPORTATION DETAILS:
Contact for details
TRANSPORTATION ORGANIZED TO:
Washington DC

Richmond, VA
Richmond Greens
CONTACT: richmondbus@answercoalition.org
TRANSPORTATION DETAILS:
Contact for details
TRANSPORTATION ORGANIZED TO:
Washington DC



Washington

Seattle, WA
A.N.S.W.E.R. Seattle
CONTACT: 206-568-1661 or email seattle@internationalanswer.org
EVENT:
Gather at 12 noon at Westlake Plaza

Tacoma, WA
CONTACT:
tacomabus@answercoalition.org
TRANSPORTATION DETAILS:
Ride the Sound Transit Seattle-Tacoma Express 594 to the demonstration, get off bus at 4th and Union and walk to 4th and Pine. For weekend Seattle Express schedule, visit:
http://www.soundtransit.org/riding/fac/stexpress/schedules/594weekends.asp?style=print
Parking garages are available at the following main transfer stations:
TRANSPORTATION ORGANIZED TO: Seattle, WA



West Virginia

Berkeley Springs, WV
Berkeley Springs Worship Group
CONTACT: berkeleyspringsbus@answercoalition.org
TRANSPORTATION DETAILS:
Contact for details
TRANSPORTATION ORGANIZED TO:
Washington DC




Wisconsin

Luck, WI
Northern Peace Initiative
CONTACT:
luckbus@answercoalition.org
TRANSPORTATION DETAILS:
The expected price for round trip motor coach transportation is $100 per seat. Pre-payment will be required. Bus schedules will be coordinated statewide. Buses will leaving on Friday, September 23rd from convenient pick up points determined by rider density. Northern locations leave in the early morning and southern locations depart in the late afternoon. Contact for details.
TRANSPORTATION ORGANIZED TO:
Washington DC
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:34 PM
Response to Reply #11
14. Even if you can't go.. . Spread the Word!
Edited on Mon Aug-01-05 11:38 PM by Tigress DEM
http://answer.pephost.org/site/PageServer?pagename=ANS_S24index&JS%20ervSessionIdr004=fhcjnwieo1.app6a#help

Help Spread the Word

Send emails to your contacts, friends, family members, co-workers, etc., and to listserves.

Hand out flyers at events, busy areas, markets, public transportation entrances/exists, and hang up flyers on street corners, in bookstores, coffee shops, laundromats - anywhere where there are people. You can download flyers and make your own copies, or you can contact the A.N.S.W.E.R. office at 202-544-3389 to request a packet of flyers be sent by mail.

Click here for a PDFs of flyers, posters & stickers

http://answer.pephost.org/site/PageServer?pagename=ANS_S24flyers




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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 02:44 AM
Response to Reply #14
90. Dallas Locals.. You have a shot before Sept 24
Edited on Thu Aug-04-05 02:49 AM by Tigress DEM
www.veteransforpeace.org

VETERANS FOR PEACE
Veterans Working Together for Peace & Justice Through Non-violence. Wage Peace!



2004 VFP CONVENTION
WATCH the Veterans for Peace National Convention in Boston ONLINE
August 4-7, 2005

Ellsberg & Zinn Speech


Veterans Address the Nation

Producer: Jeffery Keating
Length: 43 minutes minutes

American Military Deaths in Iraq
Total In combat
Since 5/1/2003: 1684 1336
Since war began: 1821 1444
Total wounded: 13559






© 2005 Veterans for Peace
Updated July 29, 2005 02:28 PM E.S.T



VFP National Convention 2005 in Dallas, TX
August 4-7, 2005


Convention registration will be open during the whole time of the convention.
Dorm room reservation at the University is now closed.
Lodging at the Radisson Hotel in Dallas is still available.







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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:30 PM
Response to Original message
12. God! I hope I can go!
Would love to be there!
Hopefully work will pick up for me!
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:45 PM
Response to Reply #12
18. What do you need to be able to go?
Maybe someone who is shy would help you get there if you represented them too. Also some of the links I posted show rides avail... and some scholarships too.

It's about Democracy in action. Don't let anything stand in your way!

We gotta topple the dictatorship or go on living like this.


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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:58 PM
Response to Reply #18
21. I have walked the same streets in ABQ
recently protesting the war, that I walked in the late 60's protesting the war in VN. I'm pretty broke now, really broke. Paid $7 as opposed to $20 an hour 3 years ago, the $7 is recent, so some debts have piled up. But, if I can manage it I will go. For short term will try to go to El Paso for Aug 24, to protest that Terrorist Bastard the U$ is harboring!

Cheers and thanks for your message!
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:08 AM
Response to Reply #21
26. Hope things look up for you.
I'll put you on my placard for DU and if you are able to get to DC, come up and initial it!


I've been down the unemployment thing recently too. So has my son. He wants to go too, but I'm still calculating what it will take to get him there and if I can swing it. His car got repoed today. Sigh.

Upper UP in Michigan has 77% unemployment rate in the tri-city area around Ironwood where he lives. Been hell. And he's got a baby on the way.


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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 08:13 AM
Response to Reply #18
44. I didn't see CO travel info listed. I just put in for the time off from
work, which should be no problem. I really want to go, but I don't even know where to start.

Any help would appreciated, and thanks for massive amount of info, T.DEM. MKJ
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 11:57 PM
Response to Reply #44
67. Well, let's see how this plays out...
Here is what I'm finding. Hope it helps, good luck.

This is the ROCKY MOUNTAIN INDY Online News Source...


http://rockymountain.indymedia.org

The statewide Colorado IMC Calendar is now active. Check it out here or add your event here. Daily events appear on the left hand side of this page.

For local calendars:
Denver: www.denverevolution.org --- not there / I will submit
Ft. Collins: http://www.uproot.info/calendar --- not there / " "
Durango: http://www.protest.net/durango --- not here / I will submit

Boulder: http://rmpjc.org/events.html -- found it HERE! local and DC

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SeptemberAction.org
Washington D.C. -- Sept. 23-26, 2005

Saturday, September 24, 2005 -- Denver -- Rally for Peace, 12:30 pm, Colorado State Capitol, West Steps -- Demand Economic and Social Justice ... Stop Torture ... Defend Demcracy at Home ... Investigate the Lies ... End the U.S. Occupation of Iraq ... 3NovemberMovement.org

September 24-26, 2005 -- Anti-war mobilization in Washington D.C. Sat., Sept. 24 - Massive March, Rally & Festival Sun., Sept. 25 - Interfaith Service, Grassroots Training Mon., Sept. 26 - Lobby Day and Mass Nonviolent Direct Action and Civil Disobedience For more info go to www.UnitedForPeace.org.

September 24-26, 2005 -- "Call for Justice Weekend" in Washington D.C. to fully educate the public as well as our national leadership about the grim realities of current U.S. practices of torture and to dispel some of the confusion surrounding certain issues, such as the applicability of the Geneva Conventions and the inefficacy of torture as an intelligence tool. Info and to register at www.uusc.org/programs/stop/trial.html. Info at stoptorture@uusc.org (Unitarian Universalist Service Committee).

Contact Info:

If you wish to attend our Call for Justice Weekend, please be sure to register.

If you have questions or need further assistance, please contact Jennifer Harbury or Nadya Khalife at UUSC at 800-388-3920 or by e-mail at stoptorture@uusc.org.

****************************************************
The Unitarians may have some resources... but they are a bit radical... going to put on a mock trial of Donald Rumsfeld and their focus is on education about the torture that is going on. There are about 4,500 affiliated groups with ANSWER and at the bottom I put a list of those who have endorsed with United For PEACE this fall. Many of them will probably have alternatives you might be able to work with.... you may just have to google the names to get a website.
****************************************************

more...
http://www.uusc.org/programs/stop/hotels.html
<snip>
Call for Justice Weekend
Accommodations in the Washington, D.C. area


To print a list of additional housing options and nearby hotels, click here.

If you need accommodations for the Call for Justice Weekend, UUSC has block-rented rooms at the Holiday Inn on the Hill, located at 415 New Jersey Avenue, NW., Washington, D.C. 20001. You will need to make your own reservations.

Rooms have been blocked for Friday, Sept. 23, Saturday, Sept. 24, and Sunday, Sept. 25. Checkout will be on Monday, Sept. 26. Double rooms are $139.00/night and a limited number of single rooms are available at $129.00/night. To qualify for this group rate, all reservations must be made prior to August 23, 2005.

To make an online reservation:
Go to www.hionthehilldc.com, then click "reservations" and enter the dates for which you wish to make accommodations. Please enter “UUS” in the Group Booking Code slot. The direct link to the reservations webpage is http://www.ichotelsgroup.com/h/d/6c/1/en/rates/wasch




*** There is a post on the RIDE BOARD TODAY - is that yours?? ***

http://www.unitedforpeace.org/ride.php

Denver, Colorado Sept 22-23 Denver, Colorado Sept 27-29 1 LL

Comments: I would really like to be a part of this rally in Washington D.C. If anyone is coming through Denver I would really appreciate a ride there, I would help with gas money and other expenses. Thank You

******************************************************************


Antiwar.com
Redwood City, CA

Arlington (MA) United for Justice with Peace
Arlington, MA (United States)

AWARE (Anti-War Anti-Racism Effort)
Urbana, IL

Brandywine Peace Community
Swarthmore, PA

Brookline PeaceWorks
Brookline, MA (United States)

Brooklyn Parents for Peace
Brooklyn, NY (U.S.A.)

CAMS-Coalition Against Militarism in our Schools
South Pasadena, CA

Cedar Valley United for Peace & Justice
Cedar Falls, IA (U.S.A)

Central Florida Jobs Committee
Saint Petersburg, FL (United States)

Chicago Area CodePink
Maywood, IL

Chicago Veterans for Peace
Chicago, IL

Coalition for Peace Action
Princeton, NJ

Coaliton for Educational Justice
Los Angeles, CA (United States of America)

codepink
Washington, DC

Codepink Pittsburgh
Glenshaw, PA

College Democrats of Kent State Stark
Canton, OH (United States)

Committee for New Priorities/ Chicago Jobs with Justice
Chicago, IL

Computer Skills Group
Littleton, CO (U.S.A.)

Concerned Families of Westchester
Hastings-on-Hudson, New York (US)

Counting The Cost
Philadelphia, PA

Food Not Bombs
Tucson, AZ

Former US Diplomats Against the Iraq War
Honolulu, HI

Grandmothers for Peace International
Elk Grove, CA

Green Party of Erie County
Erie, PA

Hyde Parkers for Peace and Justice
Chicago, IL

June 1st Peace & Justice Coalition
Evansville, IN

Kentucky Alliance Agianst Racist & Political Repression
Louisville, KY (United States)

Louisiana Activist Network
Franklinton, LA (United States)

M19 Mobilization Committee - Salt Lake City
Kearns, UT

macomb alliance for peace&justice
macomb, IL (usa)

Mid-South Peace and Justice Center
Memphis, TN

My Peace and Justice
Brampton, Ontario (Canada)

NC Peace & Justice Coalition
Durham, NC

New Yorkers Say No To War
New York, NY

NIU Women's Alliance
DeKalb, IL

North Alabama Peace Network
Huntsville, AL (US)

Not In Our Name project
new york, NY (usa)

Orange County Peace and Justice
Warwick, NY

Peace & Social Concerns Committee, Scarsdale Friends Meeting
White Plains, NY

Peace Coalition of Southern Illinois/Fellowship of Reconciliatio
Carbondale, IL

Pensacola Veterans for Peace
Pensacola, FL (US)

Pocono Progressives
Tobyhanna, PA (US)

Portage Community Peace Coalition
Kent, OH (the big one)

Progressive Council of UCF
Orlando, FL

Promoting Enduring Peace
West Haven, CT

Radio News America
Detroit Lakes, MN

RESIST
Portland, OR (usa)

S-Beat Records
Hollywood, CA (US)

Socialist Action
San Francisco, CA

Student Farmworker Alliance
Immokalee, FL

Student Peace Project
Ithaca, NY (United States)

STUDENT WORKER ALLIANCE
St. Louis, MO

The D.C. Anti-War Netowrk (DAWN)
Washington, DC

The Episcopal Church
Hilton Head Island, SC

TopPun.com - Maximizing Prophets
Toledo, OH (United States)

Tree Farm School
Potlatch, WA

Truth Activists
Ellicott City, MD

United Church of Christ
Cambridge, MA

US Peace Council
New Haven,Connercticut 06515, CT

Wellstone Democratic Renewal Club


Young Communist League CSU Stanislaus
Turlock, CA










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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 07:23 AM
Response to Reply #12
42. You know, you might also want to check if there is something in LA
Usually the West Coast has a separate protest since travelling cross-country is pretty daunting for some
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:37 PM
Response to Original message
15. Saaaaayyyy.....I'm pretty uppity! I'll try to be there!! n/t
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:42 PM
Response to Reply #15
17. ALLLLL Right. See other posts for details.
If you don't have a place to stay yet... I found some B&B's with good rates... this one is a little farther out, but I would have booked it (except I have this thing about sharing bathrooms).


http://www.bloomingdaleinn.com



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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:47 PM
Response to Original message
19. Recommended & Kick it until 9/24!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!
:kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick:
:kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick:
:kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick:


..and here's why we all need to show up. The wrong person is living in the White House...open your eyes, see the truth, do something about it...

A comprehensive explanation of election fraud--text and key links

or try…

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0507/S00238.htm


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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:02 AM
Response to Reply #19
24. here's why... The wrong person is living in the White - U Got That Right!
And the wrong man is Attorney General - Gonzales CLEARED OHIO on Vote Fraud!!!


:grr:


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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:38 AM
Response to Reply #19
35. Good idea!
:kick:
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:02 AM
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23. kick
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:13 AM
Response to Reply #23
27. Sweet!!


:pals:
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:04 AM
Response to Original message
25. More Details!!
http://impeachbush.meetup.com/boards/view/viewthread?thread=1429154


<clip>

Is there is a train near you...?

http://www.amtrak.com/se rvlet/ContentServer?pagename=Amtrak/Home Page

Reserve now on Greyhound Bus Line...?

http://www.greyhound.com /

Rent a van & bring your friends...?

http://www.enterprise.co m/car_rental/home.do

http://www.avis.com/Avis Web/home/AvisHome

Want to stay over night in DC?

http://www.travelassist. com/reg/reg_m_ma.html


http://hotel-guides.us/washington-dc/d c-hotels.html

DON'T FORGET TO BRING YOUR IMPEACH PETITIONS!
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:16 AM
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28. Revisit the DREAM
http://martinri.freeshell.org/political/mlkdream.html


Martin Luther KING'S
"I HAVE A DREAM" SPEECH - AUG. 28, 1963

I am happy to join with you today in what will go down in history
as the greatest demonstration for freedom in the history of our
nation.

Five score years ago, a great American, in whose symbolic shadow
we stand today, signed the Emancipation Proclaimation. This
momentous decree came as a great beacon of hope to millions of
slaves, who had been seared in the flames of whithering
injustice. It came as a joyous daybreak to end the long night of
their captivity. But one hundered years later, the colored
America is still not free. One hundred years later, the life of
the colored American is still sadly crippled by the manacle of
segregation and the chains of discrimination.

One hundred years later, the colored American lives on a lonely
island of poverty in the midst of a vast ocean of material
prosperity. One hundred years later, the colored American is
still languishing in the corners of American society and finds
himself an exile in his own land So we have come here today to
dramatize a shameful condition.

In a sense we have come to our Nation's Capital to cash a check.
When the architects of our great republic wrote the magnificent
words of the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence,
they were signing a promissory note to which every Anerican was
to fall heir.

This note was a promise that all men, yes, black men as well as
white men, would be guaranteed to the inalienable rights of life
liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

It is obvious today that America has defaulted on this promissory
note insofar as her citizens of color are concerned. Instead of
honoring this sacred obligation, America has given its colored
people a bad check, a check that has come back marked
"insufficient funds."

But we refuse to believe that the bank of justice is bankrupt.
We refuse to believe that there are insufficient funds in the
great vaults of opportunity of this nation. So we have come to
cash this check, a check that will give us upon demand the riches
of freedom and security of justice.

We have also come to his hallowed spot to remind America of the
fierce urgency of Now. This is not time to engage in the luxury
of cooling off or to take the tranquilizing drug of gradualism.

Now is the time to make real the promise of democracy.

Now it the time to rise from the dark and desolate valley of
segregation to the sunlit path of racial justice.

Now it the time to lift our nation from the quicksands of racial
injustice to the solid rock of brotherhood.

Now is the time to make justice a reality to all of God's
children.

It would be fatal for the nation to overlook the urgency of the
moment and to underestimate the determination of it's colored
citizens. This sweltering summer of the colored people's
legitimate discontent will not pass until there is an
invigorating autumn of freedom and equality. Nineteen
sixty-three is not an end but a beginning. Those who hope that
the colored Americans needed to blow off steam and will now be
content will have a rude awakening if the nation returns to
business as usual.

There will be neither rest nor tranquility in America until the
colored citizen is granted his citizenship rights. The
whirlwinds of revolt will continue to shake the foundations of
our nation until the bright day of justice emerges.

We can never be satisfied as long as our bodies, heavy with the
fatigue of travel, cannot gain lodging in the motels of the
highways and the hotels of the cities.

We cannot be satisfied as long as the colored person's basic
mobility is from a smaller ghetto to a larger one.

We can never be satisfied as long as our children are stripped of
their selfhood and robbed of their dignity by signs stating "for
white only."

We cannot be satisfied as long as a colored person in Mississippi
cannot vote and a colored person in New York believes he has
nothing for which to vote.

No, no we are not satisfied and we will not be satisfied until
justice rolls down like waters and righteousness like a mighty
stream.

I am not unmindful that some of you have come here out of your
trials and tribulations. Some of you have come from areas where
your quest for freedom left you battered by storms of
persecutions and staggered by the winds of police brutality.

You have been the veterans of creative suffering. Continue to
work with the faith that unearned suffering is redemptive.

Go back to Mississippi, go back to Alabama, go back to South
Carolina go back to Georgia, go back to Louisiana, go back to the
slums and ghettos of our modern cities, knowing that somehow this
situation can and will be changed.

Let us not wallow in the valley of dispair. I say to you, my
friends, we have the difficulties of today and tommorrow.

I still have a dream. It is a dream deeply rooted in the
American dream.

I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out
the true meaning of its creed. We hold these truths to be
self-evident that all men are created equal.

I have a dream that one day out in the red hills of Georgia the
sons of former slaves and the sons of former slaveowners will be
able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood.

I have a dream that one day even the state of Mississippi, a
state sweltering with the heat of oppression, will be transformed
into an oasis of freedom and justice.

I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in
a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin
but by their character.

I have a dream today.

I have a dream that one day down in Alabama, with its vicious
racists, with its governor having his lips dripping with the
words of interpostion and nullification; that one day right down
in Alabama little black boys and black girls will be able to join
hands with little white boys and white girls as sisters and
brothers.

I have a dream today.

I have a dream that one day every valley shall be engulfed,
every hill shall be exalted and every mountain shall be made low,
the rough places will be made plains and the crooked places will
be made straight and the glory of the Lord shall be revealed and
all flesh shall see it together.

This is our hope. This is the faith that I will go back to the
South with. With this faith we will be able to hew out of the
mountain of despair a stone of hope.

With this faith we will be able to transform the jangling
discords of our nation into a beautiful symphomy of brotherhood.

With this faith we will be able to work together, to pray
together, to struggle together, to go to jail together, to climb
up for freedom together, knowing that we will be free one day.

This will be the day when all of God's children will be able to
sing with new meaning "My country 'tis of thee, sweet land of
liberty, of thee I sing. Land where my father's died, land of
the Pilgrim's pride, from every mountainside, let freedom ring!"

And if America is to be a great nation, this must become true.
So let freedom ring from the hilltops of New Hampshire. Let
freedom ring from the mighty mountains of New York.

Let freedom ring from the heightening Alleghenies of
Pennsylvania.

Let freedom ring from the snow-capped Rockies of Colorado.

Let freedom ring from the curvacious slopes of California.

But not only that, let freedom, ring from Stone Mountain of
Georgia.

Let freedom ring from every hill and molehill of Mississippi and
every mountainside.

When we let freedom ring, when we let it ring from every
tenement and every hamlet, from every state and every city, we
will be able to speed up that day when all of God's children,
black men and white men, Jews and Gentiles, Protestants and
Catholics, will be able to join hands and sing in the words of
the old spiritual, "Free at last, free at last. Thank God
Almighty, we are free at last."

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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:25 AM
Response to Reply #28
30. "Refuse to believe that the bank of justice is bankrupt!"
Take your DEMANDS for payment in kind to the White House.

NO MORE LIES! NO MORE BOUNCING CHECKS from Bogus pResidents and their henchmonkeys!

There are so many ways that this administration is just PURE D WRONG and we MUST STAND UP AND SAY SO.

IF THEY WILL PRETEND NOT TO HEAR US in 10's and 100's, REFUSE TO SEE US in 1,000's and 10's of 1,000's....

If THEY WILL IGNORE OVER 1/2 a MILLION Signatures, THEN WE MUST GROW IN NUMBER AND BRING IT ON TO THE FRONT STEPS OF THE WHITE HOUSE UNTIL THERE IS NO DOUBT ---- NO DOUBT that Americans in RECORD NUMBERS ARE SICK OF THE LIES AND THE TREASONS being COMMITTED BY THIS CORRUPT GOVERNMENT.

IT HAS TO STOP. WE HAVE TO STOP IT.



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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:20 AM
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29. Tigress DEM, go for it!
Thank you! :hug:
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:28 AM
Response to Reply #29
32. We Gottta Get THIS PARTY STARTED!!!


NO MORE LIES!


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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:26 AM
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31. At LEAST 100,000 in each state capitol too
It would be great if those who cannot make it to D.C. would then march on their own state capitol. We should make this as massive as possible.
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:32 AM
Response to Reply #31
33. That will work.
As long as people get out that day and make some noise I will be happy....

OK, this thing about rumbling the buildings in DC and setting off car alarms across the Potomac is burned in my mind, and it's gonna happen, but wherever people stand up for justice on that day, it's going to make a difference.

I remember M19 and one lonely teenager protesting the war by herself at a Taco Bell making me proud to be an American. I still get choked up when I think of the courage that took!!! Tears in my eyes, can't type kind of proud...

That's America - one voice joining with another and another until the roar is deafening.




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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:33 AM
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34. I'm coming from California, and bringing friends.
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:00 AM
Response to Reply #34
37. Cool. You know SAN FRAN is putting it on too.
But there is just a certain kind of satisfaction in going to DC.


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texanwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:48 AM
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36. I hope to come from Houston, I don't want to miss this.
I am keeping my fingers crossed.
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:02 AM
Response to Reply #36
38. This is going to be one HUGE Rally!
Visualize those buildings shaking and car alarms going off!

Just gives me the happy's thinking about it.


Gotta get to bed though. Morning comes so early.

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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 07:16 AM
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40. If I can find the money to go - I'm there!
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 11:15 PM
Response to Reply #40
62. Well, I pray that the money finds you.
And my prayers are always answered!!!
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 07:18 AM
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41. If you're going to be in DC for the weekend/night - check out our DC forum
we're going to have a massive DU gathering for events surrounding before AND after the Sept 24th protest. If you're coming in for the weekend, why not join DU not only for our festivities but as we unite together and protest this government. There is a link on the home page about the DC gathering and most of the posts about the gathering are kept in the State Forums - DC (that way it doesn't scroll off and lock).

Hope to see you there! PM me for more details
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 12:41 AM
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72. Lynne, How about a DU Candlelight Vigil somewhere on Saturday?
Edited on Thu Aug-04-05 12:42 AM by Tigress DEM
Maybe we can could say, bring blue candles as BIG and Blue as we dare... maybe 3" pillars and that way if we go out together or are out in the crowd that night we will be able to spot each other and gravitate toward each other even outside in case some people don't get to the meet-up in time.

I have a co-worker who lived in Virginia and I will ask how late it is safe under these conditions to be out --- there was that great shot of the candlelight vigil by the Washington Monument... I wonder if we could gather where the Martin Luther King Monument is being constructed and fill that place up and get a picture of that.

Wouldn't that be awesome?
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Talismom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 07:34 AM
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43. I'll be there for sure! n/t
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 12:43 AM
Response to Reply #43
73. Good deal! What do you think of a Candle Light Vigil on 9/25?
See post above to LynneSin
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evolved Anarchopunk Donating Member (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 09:42 AM
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45. I will be there- an Individual promoting Individualism- and quite probably
Edited on Tue Aug-02-05 09:43 AM by evolved Anarchopunk
smoking the phattest jay you'll ever see

side note:
some people have misconstrued my use of Dank at rallies as a disrespect to the seriousness of the nature of the event and/or the seriousness they wish was bestowed upon it... well we all have different opinions and i'm a man of many. Just remember, you're looking at me thru THEIR eyes and their prejudices, don't ever assume i share your prejudices. i'm probably talking to very few people here...

This event will be monumental, peaceful, purely spiritual and powerful, i can't wait to see DU/Bartcop signs and smile smile smile !
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 12:45 AM
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74. As long as you do it in some way that doesn't get anyone else arrested.
:dilemma:
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 11:44 AM
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47. I WILL BE THERE!!!!
I already put in my vacation request!!!

:bounce:
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SoCalifer Donating Member (652 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 11:50 AM
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48. I TOO WILL BE THERE!!!
I can hardly wait.. I hope we scare the hell out of them too. :)



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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 11:54 AM
Response to Reply #48
49. YEAH!!!
Edited on Tue Aug-02-05 11:54 AM by meganmonkey
CAPS LOCK IS FUN!!! Especially when it is from enthusiasm and not anger :)

on edit: see ya there!
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 01:40 AM
Response to Reply #49
80. GRIN >>> nt
Edited on Thu Aug-04-05 01:41 AM by Tigress DEM
:spray: oops - if you put something insided these <<<< >>>>> it disappears on DU.

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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 01:23 AM
Response to Reply #48
76. Tonight, BTW, I went to a Town Hall Meeting with a Republican Hosting.
I think there are those, like Jim Ramstad here in MN, who see the writing on the wall, but are having problems keeping up with the depth of the corruption in their party because they are working for their voter base and don't have time to catch all the slippery stuff the wing-nuts are putting in the bills the Republicans are voting for.

Now, before you get upset with me for "siding" with the opposition... listen to how things went.

Tuesday, I drove up to Brooklyn Park to listen to him. I was too mad to really address what he was talking about and I'd prepared things to say that would have ripped him a new you know what. I'm glad I waited until tonight in Edina to address him. I was able to get in a lot of my points and got heard by about 100 or more people who were packed into and flowing out of the City Hall Council Chambers.

He took a lot of heat and all he asked for was for people to be civil and let him talk too.

They blasted him on corporate welfare - 60% of corporations fully avoiding paying taxes and getting money back. He was against the companies that use the Bahamas to avoid paying taxes, but didn't want to over tax companies and slow economic growth.

They blasted him on the cost of the war - that happened at the end and it was the only thing that got him snarky, Ramstad started talking about us not being supportive of the troops, but the guy who brought it up was yelling a bit, so I don't blame him.

I did shout out, but didn't get a full count, "How many people here support our soldiers, but not the war?"

There is something about a politican who will stand up and listen to the voices of dissent without putting them down and yet still bringing his point out.. you know it FELT like DEMOCRACY in that room tonight.

Still, had to hold his feet to the fire on several issues:

#1 CAFTA - He got booed when he brought it up, but my points were about the crap that gets sneaked into these bills and how they usually destroy the good the bills do.... My point was about the provision for countries like Nicaragura having to give up access to generic drugs in exchange for trade with us... and it was great because one of this Republican's points of applause was his support of allowing US citizens better access to affordable medication.

I said, "The USofA can't afford those prices... how is a little country like Nicaragura supposed to? How many people will die because they can't get access to life saving medication before it's admitted that this is a mistake?"

Then I asked about the provisions that had been stuffed into the Energy Bill - $100,000 deduction for Hummers and SUV gas hogs vs a puny $2,000 credit for Hybrids.

... and then my biggie... "Why did they loosen the sanctions on EXPORTING Weapons Grade Uranium with this Energy Bill? How COULD THEY? We are at WAR because of the thought that someone might have sold Sadaam some yellowcake, but we are easing up restrictions on EXPORTING Weapons Grade Uranium. How is that supposed to make me feel more safe? And why aren't we putting money into First Responders and securing OUR Ports? I'm MUCH MORE Concerned about that potential problem than the immigrants that die of thirst trying to get into the country taking jobs."

He didn't really have an answer, but I could see he was thinking, "Shit, I didn't know this," and so I asked him to help OUT the people putting this stuff into the bills. He said if we could get him solid information he would track it down.

He came off as someone who cares about his constituents and said his voting record is getting him in more trouble with his party than with his DEM counterparts accross the isle.

He was appalled at the Supreme Court decision that took private property away from people here in MN and gave it away for "public interest" (read public greed) and he worked with DEMS to draft a bill that will try to reverse that decision. I intend to support him on that.

He is still trying to get Wellstone's bill through for Health Equity in Mental Health and Chemical Dependency issues. So that these issues don't have artificial roadblocks built in that deny people care.

He fought against his own party to get better funding for schools and isn't buying the non-funding of the no-child-left-behind mandate.

Some people tease him to come on over to the light side, but someone else seriously said, "No, I'd rather have you in the Republican party working to fix it." I agree.

All in all I had to commend him for having the gonads to face us and I DID SAY "GONADS" on public access TV....


:blush:


I also told him it wasn't that we had anything against him personally, but that we are frustrated because we can't get in touch with and administration that is so out of touch with us.

A lot of people came up and talked to me afterward and I pushed for Sept 24 - even if people just get out locally.



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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 07:47 AM
Response to Reply #76
91. Good for you!
Edited on Thu Aug-04-05 07:49 AM by meganmonkey
That's where change can happen - face to face, locally, by educating folks to the truths behind their lies. It would be easier if they'd believe us when we say that for bushco, up-is-down and war-is-peace and last throes-is-we're losing. Everything they say means the opposite, but that sounds like rhetoric and doesn't go very far when you are really trying to change minds.

So way to point out the truth!

And way to say GONADS on TV!!! :o

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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 12:47 AM
Response to Reply #47
75. Way to go! Check out the legal, media and clergy ADDS ...
also, taking a small sampling to find out if people would be interested in pulling a TRUE BLUE Candle Light Vigil together by where the MLK Monument is being built. See up post to LynneSin
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ray of light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:40 PM
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50. I'm trying to get there too...even though I'm broke
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 01:36 AM
Response to Reply #50
77. Well where are you coming from?
There are some local events too, so there is always that option and there are events in some states that will be good sized as well.

http://www.unitedforpeace.org/calendar.php?sortby=&caltype=1&lcountry=USA&state=WA&bydate=2005-09-07&distance=5&zip=&search=Search

March on Washington IN Washington
Saturday, September 24th 2005 11:00am
Rally and brief march in solidarity with the UFPJ March on Washington, for those of us who can't make the trip to D.C.

***** Bigger Ones ****

September 24th Anti-War Protest
06/23/2005 HUGE ANTI-WAR PROTESTS ANTICIPATED FOR SAN FRANCISCO, LOS ANGELES, WASHINGTON, DC

On September 24th 2005, there will be a mass anti-war protest in San Francisco. The protest will gather at 11am in Dolores Park (19th and Dolores). More details about the march route and speakers will be made available over the next few months. Flyer For Protest*

Thousands will march on Saturday, September 24 in Washington DC, San Francisco, Los Angeles. Information about SeptemberAction.org, (http://www.indybay.org/news/2005/07/1756797.php) the anti-war, global justice mobilization in Washington, DC from September 23rd-26th. The A.N.S.W.E.R. Coalition has urged the antiwar movement to come together for a united demonstration. Organizers say: "The people of Iraq are insisting that the United States leave their country immediately. As in Vietnam, the people of the United States must demand the immediate end to this war of conquest. As we fight to end the war in Iraq, we recognize that it is not enough to focus on a single front in this War for Empire. We must unite on a principled basis that recognizes the reality of our epoch. How can this war drive come to an end? People in Iraq, in Palestine, in Haiti, in Venezuela, in Cuba are resisting but the people of the United States must become their allies. Their resistance is part of the universal aspiration to live free from foreign domination or threats of a military or economic character."

More Details

( http://www.indybay.org/news/2005/06/1747748.php )


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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 01:38 AM
Response to Reply #50
78. TO THE THREAD & Ray of Light.... REGIONAL PROTESTS


Regional demonstrations
San Francisco - http://www.actionsf.org

Los Angeles - http://www.answerla.org

Seattle - http://www.answerseattle.org




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Synnical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 02:43 PM
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52. I'll be there n/t
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 01:39 AM
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79. Always room for one more!
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 02:47 PM
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54. will be there with all my children...making our signs and banners now
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 01:42 AM
Response to Reply #54
81. Such a wonderful organized mom, will you adopt me?
:rofl:


Just kidding, but good job, MOM!

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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 02:48 PM
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55. if you can get here then we can get you a place to stay
if money is an issue

upthread i talk about a cheap place to stay in dc if you want to pm me and also others have provided links to hostels and other like/very inexpensive places to crash

so dont let that part keep you home
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 01:44 AM
Response to Reply #55
82. TO THE THREAD and FaithNotGreed --- GOOD DEAL!!
People, DU has got you covered, so get networking and get to DC!
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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 12:13 PM
Response to Reply #82
93. dont start that tigress
you know this is your beautiful inspiring thread

heres to everyone working (in whatever way that is) for real change
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 12:18 AM
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96. But me without the rest of you.... is very lonely.....
WE Are ALL Doing this.... it's like a potluck, there always winds up being enough when people dig in and get genrous with what they have to offer.

AND KNOW WHAT? ONE PERSON Ain't a PARTay. But This, THIS is a PARTY!
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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 12:52 AM
Response to Reply #96
98. right on and right on~
loaves and fishes have a beautiful way of multiplying
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GoneOffShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 02:54 PM
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56. I'd be happy to go BUT
I have a terrible feeling that this is going to deteriorate, yet AGAIN, into one of those unfocused, multi issue, Free Mumia! Trash Israel! End poverty! Save the whales! Anarchy for everyone! Become a vegan! Unionize! Ban guns! Ban religion! stop wars! End circumcision (male and female)! End animal testing! Oh, yeah and we almost forgot:Impeach Bush! occasions.

And so it goes. You want to have an impeachment rally and end the war in Iraq - Do that!

There are people who support those two ideas and want to see those goals achieved, me among them. Some of the other things can be taken care of once we get Bush out of office and a Democratic congress in place - albeit, one that is answerable to the people who elected them and not corporations.
Some of the other things, well, why not save them for another time?
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 06:00 PM
Response to Reply #56
60. Well, then a lot fewer groups will be involved
Edited on Tue Aug-02-05 06:01 PM by meganmonkey
and a lot less people. Is it ideal? Maybe not - but maybe it is.

People have a lot of different reasons to despise Bush & Co. People have different priorities. But they have a lot more in common than not. What could be better than bringing a ton of different people together to protest?

I went to a couple marches in DC to protest the Iraq war before it started. Yeah, there were people with their own agendas, petitions to legalize pot or passing out socialist party newspapers or whatever - but there were also Catholic nuns marching alongside Anarchists chanting against the war. Accountants and high school kids and veterans and Republicans and...

Frankly it was one of the most beautiful things I have seen in my life. If you want to talk yourself out of going for a reason like that, then it is your loss. I hope that doesn't sound disrespectful - I don't mean it that way. It's hard to convey with a keyboard sometimes.

Peace
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 02:12 AM
Response to Reply #60
89. .. your reaction is better than mine was ... thanks for posting.


I suppose it's better if I don't bang the keyboard over people's heads - even if it's only in a figurative and not literal sense.

You've been there and done that. Good points.


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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 01:55 AM
Response to Reply #56
83. Then you need to be selective and pick which group you work with.
It is a free country and all kinds of people want this administration out of Iraq and out of the White House. But you have the ability to choose who you want to hang with.

There is an official group calling for Impeachment and there will be a full activist fair there too - but you don't have to go to it.

Make a choice, but no whinning allowed. You know what works for you, great, but don't discourage others from attending, please.



As for doing this another time.... what if there IS NO OTHER TIME?


This administration has allowed Karl Rove to skate on outing a CIA agent, mis-spent or lost 8.8 billion dollars in Iraq and has no sense of honor or shame about the most heinous of torture done to little children in the name of fighting the war on terror.....


What if we DON'T Mobilize NOW and THROW EVERYTHING WE HAVE AT THEM and they just trash our country, finish off the rest of the Civil Rights and tell us to go F*** ourselves if we don't like things in the New United Under God States of Corporate Greed.


You want to wait? Fine.

I don't think we necessarily can count on another chance to get this many people out there and I don't care if they are celebrating hump back whales rights in Nova Scotia.... if they will speak up and say get the War Criminals Out of the White House... they are welcome to stand right beside me - whatever their other beliefs are... because this is America and Diversity is a GOOD thing.







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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 03:49 PM
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57. ANYthing that happens in DC - I'm THERE.
Especially for this. I have 2 friends in Vietraq whose unit is losing men weekly. Anything happens to either of them, and anyone who supports this bullshit occupation or voted for the Chimperor is my enemy for life.

I'm coming down with the wife and kid and staying with my sister in Silver Spring.
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 01:58 AM
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84. Fantastic!
Say, do you know the area? How would a candle light vigil near the MLK site work out on Sat 25? Is it open during construction? Is that area safe at night if we bring about 100 - 1000 people?
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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 03:52 PM
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58. How many hotel/motel/b&b's and flop house rooms are there ins DC?? nt
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 01:59 AM
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85. Almost enough... then there is Arlington across the way and...
a few more cities I can't think of right now at O dark thirty.
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Dyedinthewoolliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 04:23 PM
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59. If you are a bike rider...
you can join with my friend Ron and ride into DC on that weekend. He left Everett, WA yesterday and plans on being there with all of you.
Go to www.bike4peace.org for more details.
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 02:00 AM
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86. OK Bikers! Here is your rally ride!!


www.bike4peace.org


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phusion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 11:38 PM
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61. Probably a silly question...
Edited on Tue Aug-02-05 11:39 PM by phusion
But is there anywhere to camp for free/cheap near DC?

I wanna be there, but I have a student/shoestring budget and I'm coming from NM...

edit: Maybe I can camp in your yard/on your roof? :)
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pimpbot Donating Member (770 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 12:39 AM
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71. I can fit probably 4-5 tents in my backyard.. About 15 miles outside DC
I don't mind sharing it.. This would be my first rally!!

Who should I let know that I have the space available? I wouldn't mind letting you use the guest shower either :)
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 02:09 AM
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88. People should probably PM you if they are interested and ...
when you are full post a reply to your own message indicating you have reached your limit.

And because this is all blind, don't feel afraid to ask for enough details to feel comfortable and safe with anyone you put up.

You never know if some freeper might try to do something stupid to give us a bad name, so use common sense, and people being asked questions, please don't get offended.

Just make sure everyone is as safe as possible during this, we are here to look out for each other.

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pimpbot Donating Member (770 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 01:29 PM
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94. Good advice
I'm open to PMs. If anyone sees this and is interested I haven't got any takers yet. We can exchange phone # etc before hand to make sure everything is good.

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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 02:06 AM
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87. KOAs are usually inexpensive and well maintained
http://www.koakampgrounds.com/where/md

Site Type 2 Person Rate Range With Value Kard!
RV Campsite $37.00 - 57.00 $33.30 - 51.30
Tent $32.00 - 42.00 $28.80 - 37.80
Kamping Kabins $55.00 - 79.00 $49.50 - 71.10
Kottage-Lodge $125.00 - 195.00 $112.50 - 175.50

Two-person rates. Extra person charge may apply.

Send someone camping - give them a KOA Gift Certificate!

Contact Us

DC I-95 to US 50 East to 3 North Exit Veterans Highway or Baltimore I-695 to I-97 Exit 10A. Follow KOA or blue camping signs.
Washington DC, NE KOA
768 Cecil Avenue North - PO Box 9
Millersville, MD 21108

Information: (410) 923-2771
Fax: (410) 923-3709
Email: capitolkoa@worldnet.att.net

Reserve Online Now!
Or By Phone: (800) 562-0248

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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 08:59 AM
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92. Kick!!
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williesgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 02:26 PM
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95. Sugges we organize places to stay free - there's lot of us in
Edited on Thu Aug-04-05 02:29 PM by williesgirl
and around DC with plenty of room both inside and outside our homes that are more than willing to share at no expense to our guests. Maybe the moderators could start a thread or whatever for those of us willing to do this to post our email addresses and maybe give us a way to make sure the folks we're hosting are for real and we're not putting ourselves or families at risk? What do you all think? I live in Front Royal, VA, about an hour and a half from DC, but you can get on Metro in Vienna which is only an hour from here.

Plua, there's lots of camping out here cheap. We're in the Shenandoah Mountains, with a National Forest on the other end. Motels out here are cheap too. Buses can be rented to get everyone to Metro and back.
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 12:38 AM
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97. People should be careful and be sure you really get enough info...
to be able to verify people are who they say they are. I don't know if the moderators can help or not. I'll ask.

Why don't we start with camping options first and moving together as a group with locals leading the way?

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Comandante_Subzero Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 01:00 AM
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99. General Strike, Not Just a Demo
Edited on Sat Aug-06-05 01:07 AM by Comandante_Subzero
What about shutting down DC with a general strike for at least two days, with the cooperation of the DC community so we are not outside interlopers. We need something more than just another demo. We've had many & we got Reagan & 2 Bushes. Just marching does not work. We can call for this Administration to step down forthwith!

Vietnam War demos did not end that war, at least their impact was questionable. They also got Nixon elected. The US military fell apart in Vietnam & that's why Nixon cut & run. We need new ideas, IMO.

"Collapse of the US Military in Vietnam":

http://www.chss.montclair.edu/english/furr/Vietnam/heinl.html
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