Paul Hackett Campaign Worried About Election Fraud

[kansasblue]

http://dailykos.com/story/2005/7/31/145449/155


ok... they are watching

Hackett Campaign "Worried Sick" About Fraud

[mtnester]

1. They ought to be, fraud, thy name is Ohio

EOM

[flpoljunkie]

2. The dailykos comment on central tabulators, memory cards very disturbing!

They damn well should be worried. And what will the Carter-Baker Commission on Federal Election Reform have to say about securing our voting systems when it issues its report on September 19th?

http://dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/7/31/145449/155

Unfortunately, most Tabulators work (can be programmed) the same as GEMS (Diebold) in that they can be manipulated (hacked).That includes Sequoia, ES&S, Triad. So even if they're voting punch cards, optical scan, DRE - whatever method, all votes are counted on Central Tabulators. Big problem...

What's perhaps even worse is that it's not just the central tabulator that's vulnerable. With at least the optical scanners (and possibly DREs too) it's an executable program on the Memory Cards that can do all the damage--the scary thing being that this program can make simultaneous changes in both the central tabulator and the individual scanners at the same time--so they spit out identical (false) results.

And it's maybe not just Diebold that has this "feature." It's possible that this Memory Card "feature" exists on Sequoia, ES&S, etc. as well.

by jen on Sun Jul 31st, 2005 at 12:31:07 PDT

http://dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/7/31/145449/155

[Al-CIAda]

3. .

[Bumblebee]

4. Ohio 02 apparently uses punchcard voting

Does that mean that at least there will be a trail and a possibility for a hand recount with lawyers and observers present if there is a contested election -- like it was in WA state? I think they should raise more money and contest the election even if the results appear not very close.

[mtnester]

5. Lemme tell you about recounts

in Ohio, you can order one, but that is not what you will get. I was on the ground in Fairfield County, when stuff from the randon precincts did not match up, they counted again (illegal, should have gone to a full hand recount), and when it did not match AGAIN said "oops, must be technical difficulties with the machines" (illegal, should have been a full hand recount) and then brough in new machines to count with (just plain illegal. Of course,it was OK after that.

Each step blessed by a phone call to Blackwell's office. And this was with punchcards.