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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:13 PM
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Why hasn't Bush just pardoned Miller?
If she is key to the investigation and Bush wants to put a stop to it, why not just pardon her? This would be the simplest solution I could imagine to slowing, if not halting, the whole thing?
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kerryin2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:15 PM
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1. She is not in jail for an offense that can be pardoned..
just a guess.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:16 PM
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2. He is waiting on the indictments and will pardon them all at one time.
:argh:

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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:16 PM
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3. Being President is hard work ....
he's too busy to do it all in one day! ;)
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joemurphy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:16 PM
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4. It would be perceived as interfering with the investigation
Not that it won't happen at some point in this developing scenario.
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:17 PM
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5. Because she has not been convicted of a crime
Edited on Tue Aug-02-05 01:18 PM by atreides1
She is only being held on Contempt of Court charges, she hasn't been to trial and has not been convicted. Without a conviction there is no precedent for a presidential pardon.

Besides, do you really think that BushCo. gives a damn about Judith Miller? As far as they're concerned she can rot in jail, and they won't lose any sleep over it.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:22 PM
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6. only the judge who issued
the contempt charge can lift it. bush would never dare say or do anything publicly in this matter.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:24 PM
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7. She hasn't committed a crime.
She's in civil contempt. The jail time is a means of compulsion, not punishment. As soon as she talks, she leaves. A pardon wouldn't save her of her obligation to respond to a valid subpoena.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:31 PM
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8. Direct or Criminal Contempt of Court
Because many of you said that it is *not* a crime, I looked it up.

It is a crime that the judge acts as victim, witness, jury and executioner with immediate conviction:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contempt_of_court

Because this is a federal court, it is a crime that is pardonable by the POTUS (according to the U.S. Constitution).

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