Rick Santorum: Society shouldn't tolerate sex outside marriage

[Eric J in MN]

http://santorumexposed.com/serendipity/archives/49-Birth-Control-Harms-%20Women.html

[Kerrytravelers]

1. Kerry Travelers: Society shouldn't tolerate Santorum outside nut house.

[NativeTexan]

4. Santorum....

...is such an ignorant ass. You talk about going to the EXTREMES!!
I bet you couldn't find a handful of Republicans that would even AGREE with that!!

[ChairmanAgnostic]

12. especially those GOPers with a girl inside the bloatway

and the wifey back at home ready for the next campaign.

[NativeTexan]

20. Hypocritical GOPer's...

...have ALWAYS been my pet peeve! Everyone might not have always agreed, for instance, with Ted Kennedy's earlier lifestyle, but you know what? Teddy NEVER went on TV and told the country that you were a lowlife if you cheated on your wife, or were and alcoholic, etc.....
These guys PREACH one thing like family values...and LIVE ANOTHER ONE.

Besides, Santorum will probably be exposed as a child molester or something someday....

[ChairmanAgnostic]

23. Something will give. He is too out there to be real.

Was this the same senator who brought his dead infant's corspe home so they could party over it? Or am I mixing other wing nuts in the GOP Senate up with him?

[Eric J in MN]

29. same Senator (nt)

nt

[CordellHull]

24. What an unbelievably stupid thing to say

Or believe.

[CordellHull]

25. Sorry . . . I was referring to

Santorum's comment.

[Kerrytravelers]

71. Whew!

I thought to myself :wow, a DUer thinks santorum belongs in the Senate and NOT the nut house?!?!?!?!"

Welcome to DU! :hi: :dem:



kt

[Dulcinea]

85. Pennsylvania needs to stop tolerating Santorum.

What a piece of moralizing shite.

Please, PA voters, send him away ASAP!

[htuttle]

2. Mullah Santorum is issuing fatwas now, too?

[Eloriel]

53. And will be handing out burkas NEXT week n/t

[RobertSeattle]

3. Society should tolerate bringing dead premies home from the Hospital

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A61804-2005Apr17.html

"Upon their son's death, Rick and Karen Santorum opted not to bring his body to a funeral home. Instead, they bundled him in a blanket and drove him to Karen's parents' home in Pittsburgh. There, they spent several hours kissing and cuddling Gabriel with his three siblings, ages 6, 4 and 1 1/2. They took photos, sang lullabies in his ear and held a private Mass. "

Strange.

[HockeyMom]

7. Not strange, but SICK

Not to mention aren't there laws about the embalming of CORPSES, to be so graphic.

[LiberalFighter]

57. Don't know about Pennsylvania but...

some states it is illegal to transport a dead body

[w13rd0]

21. Took photos?

Did they make the kids hold their deceased sibling? Why hasn't this sick twisted f*k been brought up on child abuse charges?

[CTyankee]

30. dear god

a dead fetus in a blanket. Can you imagine what emanates from such a thing? This is the sickest thing I can think of. A dead body being wrapped in a blanket and carried around?

I am so offended. My mother, age 94, died in April 05. At the end, she was kept alive to help family members arrive in time to be with her before she died. This was a comfort to her.

This guy is the end of the world of decency, I truly beliefe.

Dear God.

[SemperEadem]

88. the human body--a hazmat vessel if ever there was one

it's bad enough while one is alive, but when one dies?

everything secreted by the human body is hazmat.

[Andromeda]

75. Oh, good gawd...

That's the sickest thing I've ever heard.

Isn't carrying a dead body around against the law in that state?

[PA Democrat]

79. Karen Santorum wrote a book titled Letters to Gabriel

about the experience. I cannot know what her motivation was for writing the book, and so I will not judge her. Perhaps it was helpful to her grieving process.

What DID bother me was that in the process of promoting the book, Karen Santorum was a guest on a couple of local talk shows. I listened to one of those in which RICK Santorum appeared with her, and used the opportunity to campaign for himself. I found his exploitation of his son's death for political gains distasteful to say the least.

[delen]

93. I really want to know

just how did they get out of the hospital with the body? I work in medical (LPN) and can't think of any situation where the family was allowed to remove a body themselves, in the case of premmies, usually the body is incinerated with bio-hazard or is turned over to a mortuary, never just given to the family.This is one of the sickest things I've ever heard of, would they have been allowed to do the same with grandma or grandpa?

[Maat]

5. Wow.

His wife probably essentially functions as property of his - property that is able to mother and be the constant caretaker of his children.

[Elidor]

6. I don't even know who his democratic challenger will be...

But I'm going to send them money.

[jedr]

13. Bob Casey

Send all the money you can afford.

[napi21]

14. His challenger is Bob Casey! As I understand it, he's beating Ricky

in the polls, at least right now!


http://www.bobcaseyforpa.com/

Casey is a good guy, and although he is pro-life, he doesn't force it on anyone else!

Casey stands a very good chance at beating lod Ricky, but we have to support him to make sure!!!!

[PA Mamma]

95. With all due respect, Napi21...

Please be more honest:

“Casey is a good guy, and although he is pro-life, he doesn't force it on anyone else!”

Despite the best efforts of some Party Bosses to keep it a secret until they have your money, I think that people deserve to know the truth about Bob Casey’s views.

1. What is your position on providing legal protection for unborn children from the moment of conception if Roe v. Wade is overturned?
Casey (D): Support.

http://www.pacatholic.org/election%20archive/gen00adg.htm


So what exactly constitutes “forcing” for you?

[Joanne98]

8. Santorum and his Big Church Judges are going to put sex-havers in jail!

[Beaverhausen]

9. I won't tolerate him in my bedroom

get the fuck out of my life, you dick!

[stray cat]

10. Wow. That is alot of people we have to jail or kill.

[TomClash]

15. Like

everybody who's single and remotely attractive.

[Beaverhausen]

22. now, now, everyone is attractive to someone!!!

[TomClash]

38. Karl Rove?

See, there are exceptions.

[Beaverhausen]

84. Maybe you missed this!

http://www.ilovekarlrove.com/

:puke:

[livinginphotographs]

78. And a lot of Republicans as well.

[Totally Committed]

11. Buy stock in Burqas now!

If these Talibushies win in 2008, all women will be wearing 'em.

[PA Democrat]

34. Not quite a burqa, but not much better

Check out how Mrs. Santorum dresses.

[Maat]

62. She probably works her hiney off taking care of all of the kids ..

how do we know that he isn't one of those guys in D.C. who has a couple of companions on the side?

With those guys in D.C., any unintended pregnancies are taken care of, I'm sure.

[Old and In the Way]

16. Rick should run for Bishop.

If he does well, he ought to run for Pope.

Righteous moralizing hypocrite that he is. Pure pandering to the regressive instincts of this country.

[mconvente]

17. im pretty sure this is a senate seat we pick up in 06

IMO

[BattyDem]

18. Society shouldn't tolerate people who don't mind their own damn business!

When, where, how and with whom adults have consensual sex with is NOBODY'S BUSINESS BUT THEIR OWN! :grr:

[yourout]

19. His wife can probably barely tolerate sex inside of marriage.

What a scumbag.

[iconoclastic cat]

26. Does anyone else think that he doesn't *want* to win?

I mean, seriously.

[tabasco]

68. No, I think he wants to win very badly.

They are drunk with power and think they can foist their extremist agenda on us. People like Santorum are showing their true faces. The republicans control all three branches and act like they will be in control forever.

[Canuckistanian]

27. He'd make chastity belts mandatory...

Probably impose fines on masturbation, too.

[wli]

28. Society: We shouldn't tolerate Rick Santorum in our country

Deport him to Saudi Arabia or something. They'll agree with him.

[CTyankee]

31. Better get used to him

That really nice spread in the NYTimes Sunday magazine, with a photo of his hands neatly folded in prayer, was such a nice touch! Just what all of us needed!

[CatholicEdHead]

32. You can tell his scantimoniousness is all fake

just begging for votes or making a name for himself later after he looses his Senate job.

[Eric J in MN]

36. He can make more money is he loses,

getting speaking fees from rightwing Christian groups.

[maxrandb]

91. Or a Show on MSNBC

[hatrack]

33. So watcha gonna do, Lil' Ricky? Stoning? Trial by ordeal?

Burning at the stake? Burying alive? Trial by combat?

Sphinctorum - 10 pounds of sanctimonious, smarmy shit in a poorly glued, distintegrating 5-pound bag.

[rman]

35. And who are you to tell society what to do?

[Pepperbelly]

37. I am really getting tired of this son of a bitch. Pennsylvania DUers.

Get rid of this bastard!

He is a shithead.

[I Have A Dream]

47. We're going to do our best, Pepperbelly!

He's such an embarassment.

[petite marmotte]

39. I Don't Think Society Should

Tolerate a politician who uses the word society so many times in a sentence "...harmful to our society to have a society...as we've seen, harmful long-term effects on our society." And what effects are those, BTW? I haven't seen them.

[area51]

50. Welcome.

Welcome to DU, petite marmotte.

[Olney Blue]

51. Welcome petite marmotte!

:hi:

[pretzel4gore]

40. but even jerry (falwell) masturbates, rick!

in the 80's, ron reagan jr had a talk show that it causes angst to think about now; it was a superb show and ron had on some excellent guests. naturally, even though ron was son of the president, he was very liberal leftwing, and his guests always included liberals, so his show was stuck away late on a weeknight. The show i'm referring to included jerry falwell; it also had 2 other guest, males (this is significant) though i cannot recall their names (one was james caan? james ferrentino?) anyway, with jerry falwell, it was a foursome. Jerry, naturally, was complaining about the state of morality, or immorality, in the nation, and referenced the rampant sex in movies, on tv, even in the schools etc. It was just typical repuke whining, when suddenly ron asked jerry 'mr falwell, do you masturbate'?
:shrug:
the point of this post is that jerry falwell was forced to admit he indeed masturbates, and no doubt satanorum does too, if he's honest enogh to admit it...and masturbation is technically 'outside of marriage!'
unless satanorum claims to be holier then st jerry (falwell)!

[CBHagman]

52. Oh, THERE'S an image I could have lived without.

PLEASE. Some of us are eating!

[Andromeda]

74. Falwell masterbating?

That's imagery I can do without. Tooooo much information.

Yuck!

[gasperc]

41. society shouldn't tolerate people sleeping with dead babies

either

[Canuckistanian]

42. Society should just mind it's own damn business

Last time I looked, sex 'outside of marriage' wasn't illegal.
Legislating morality has never worked, never will work. And the ones that try are reduced to militant dictatorships.

[Eloriel]

55. Actgually, sex outside of marriage is probably still illegal in

many states. It definitely USED to be illegal in many states, and I just can't imagine that many legislatures where it was illegal had the political courage to legalize it.

[elperromagico]

43. Oh, I agree! In fact, let's have a Struggle Against Premarital Extremism.

SAPE!!!

Let's have a Department of Marriage Sanctity, while we're at it.

Turn in your neighbors if you suspect them of having sex while unmarried!!!

While we're at it, might I suggest that we ban all sex not designed to produce children?

And if one of you is unable to have children, why, your marriage is null and void! Only fertile people should be allowed to wed!!!

[bvar22]

44. Fine, Rick. Wrote up the legislation to criminalize adultry,

and get your Right Wing Talibornagains to fire up their propaganda machine, bring you legislation to the Floor for a vote, and LETS FUCKING SEE WHO IS FER IT, AND who is agin it!.
OUTLAW ADULTRY!!!!

I'll BET you that MORE Republicans go to jail than Democrats!

Go ahead Ricky, Put your political career whare your BIG FAT self-righteous, hypocritical mouth is!

[OneTwentyoNine]

45. Even if its "Man on Dog" Rick??????

Oh damnit.....

[BlueIris]

46. Nice.

No sarcasm, there, really, I just mean: hey, asshole Mr. Santorum? I expect to hear you painfully confess to how bad you were the first time you slept with a woman, to whom you were newly married, because you'd never done it with anyone else. I want to hear all the details. You know, like Ashcroft gave us. If I don't hear them, I might start looking around for a jail cell for you. Society shouldn't tolerate fornicators like you.

[Eloriel]

60. t's the "They can't complain if they don't know what they're missing"

approach to marital bliss. Also known as: The Blind Leading the Blind.

I've often thought to myself what a blessing The Pill and the Sexual Revolution right along with the Women's Movement was for women who were suddenly NO LONGER expected to just put up with and endure the first lousy lover that came along all the rest of their lives. They NOW could (a) have a chance to know -- and experience -- the vast differences in, um, skill, competence and talent out there, (b) have a chance to set some standards for their partners and (c) learn a little and gain a bit of skill themselves.

I think of my mother and her generation, and all those before it with abject horror. Married to inept, inexperienced lovers who hadn't a clue ... shudder ... add to that the fact that these men were raised to think that women's sole reason for being in every OTHER category was for their exclusive benefit, so why on earth would these men even contemplate they might need to do some work perfecting their skills for their partners' sake? Not likely.

LOL -- that's probably precisely why women had to be conned and coerced into believing that they had this "conjugal duty" (carrying the weight of law in some cases) -- couldn't get all of them to the marriage bed for the sheer pleasure of it. Nosirree.

[Gormy Cuss]

82. I would love to know what Santorum's issue really is

He has an obsession with other people's sexual behavior and sexual identity. If he doesn't have some personal sex demons I'd be surprised.

Have you talked to older women about sex? It's actually pretty amazing how many had lively enjoyable sex lifes with spouses or others -- they just considered it an impolite topic. Of course, most of the ones I've heard talking like this do so in the context of wishing they had been born in a more recent generation when they could have had a lot more fun.
:bounce:

[Eloriel]

98. Well...

cough -- I AM an older woman, depending on how old "older" is to you.

[flaminbats]

48. if Bob Casey is smart, he'll use this clip repeatedly in campaign ads..

we should never forget how Santorum twisted the meaning of Harris Wofford's words to win in 1994. Why shouldn't we use Santorum's "moral judgments", on birth control and all who use it, to whip his soft oversized ass next year?

[youthere]

49. self delete

[sleipnir]

54. What an idiot, he should be put into a barn and left there.

n/t

[thinkingwoman]

56. thinkingwoman: society shouldn't tolerate...

lunatics outside of asylums.

[The Gunslinger]

58. Santorum in 08....... ............ ..................... ....1308

[MrSlayer]

59. Yes! And the punishment should be rape.

This dude is fucking certifiable.

[Maat]

61. The picture of his wife ..

she looks tired.

Homeschooling all of their kids would do it.

[LeftyMom]

67. They're not homeschooled

They use a computer-based charter. It's in home, more to decentralize and save money for the charter operators than for any other reason. Parents don't have much responsibility and the curriculum isn't tailored to the student. Up until recently the public was paying for the charter.

That's not homeschooling, it's just a charter (scam) school that hasn't paid for premises. A homeschooling parent can buy similar software (usually with greater versatility for well under $1000/yr or even less- for a grand you usually get grading and teacher advice, manipulatives, books or other extras in addition to the software pkg) and reuse it for subsequent kids or resell it at the end of the year. These rip-off companies charge school districts $5K or more a year for software, paperwork, a teacher who drops by for less than an hour every few weeks and the use of a (crappy entry level) computer.

[warrens]

63. Except of course, when a good looking young stud

Wants some bend over the bed action. That is just OK. It's not really sex, unless you're impeaching a Democrat.

[dajoki]

64. then explain these comments...

about sherwood, ricky boy, you weasel. " santorum spares sherwood the family values lecture" http://www.timesleader.com/mld/timesleader/12174379.htm

[kodi]

65. why shouldn't society tolerate sex outside of marriage?

any basis for such a comment that stems from religious dogma has no credence in a secular, pluralistic society

[IndianaGreen]

66. I thought Benedict Ratzinger was Pope

Which conclave elected Santorum Supreme Pontiff for the Americas?

[fnottr]

70. I hate how he gets all high and mighty about his so called Catholic values

What are his posistions on the war and the death penalty again? Oh, he was for them you say? And what is the pope's view? Hmmmm, I think he's against them.

Interesting....so you mean old holier than thou Rick doesn't tow the Church's line on everything? So maybe, just maybe he should stop berating Catholics and other Christians who disagree on other issues?

...Just a thought

[Eurobabe]

69. Society shouldn't tolerate Republicans, PERIOD

Hey Rick, shut the fuck up.

[Swamp Rat]

72. Disgusting, vile, fetus raping cannibal lizard!!!

:puke:

[Starbucks Anarchist]

73. "Society shouldn't tolerate sex outside marriage"?

Is he kidding? The entire economy would collapse if this came true.

[Warren DeMontague]

76. This may come as a surprise, but I'm glad he's saying it.

All these other fucking loonbags believe all this bullshit, but generally they try to soft-pedal the wackjob fringes of their theocratic agenda, water it down for public consumption...

But not Rick Santorum, no siree.

Hat's off to ya, bub. You're the real deal.

[tsuki]

77. Bring back the red A. How about witch trials? The House Committee

on UnAmerican Activities? Who needs Joe McCarthy when you have Sick Rantorum?

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

80. You people are bigots. You only hate him because he's Catholic.

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[Jeff In Milwaukee]

81. Mrs. Santorum: I can barely tolerate sex inside marriage

nt

[JPZenger]

83. Guys Who Can't Get Laid Oppose Sex

I just imagine Santorum saying: I couldn't get laid before I got married, so no one else should be able to either.

Some people's claim of a high sense of sexuality morality is really the result of a lack of temptation.

This ties into the whole anti-abortion movement. If someone really wants to minimize abortion, then they should be in favor of birth control. However, too often, the anti-abortionists are really against sex.

[Orion The Hunter]

86. PA shouldn't tolerate Rick Santorum

An according to the Hill, Santorum may not be an elected official much longer as he is trailing his competitor for the job:

http://www.hillnews.com/thehill/export/TheHill/News/Campaign/080305.html

[SemperEadem]

87. then he needs to go speak to Newt Gingrich

Rudolph Guiliani and others in their party about their sex outside marriage--start cleaning up your own house, first, before sticking your nose elsewhere.

[AnarchoFreeThinker]

89. also intolerable: getting in touch with your Jungian shadow

[Darranar]

90. What does "shouldn't tolerate" mean?

Should we stone all offenders instead?

[etherealtruth]

96. That was my immediate response,too ...

Public stonings.

[JPZenger]

92. Santorum Should become a Mulah in Iran

Santorum would fit right in as a mulah in Iran. He should be living in a theocracy, not a democracy. He could make pronouncements, such as "Pre-marital sex will not be tolerated. Stone her to death."

Then, like in Iran, he could review all of the proposed candidates for elected office and decide which ones were close enough to his moral viewpoints that they should be allowed to run for office.

I suggest someone photoshop an image of Santorum as an Iranian Cleric.

[JPZenger]

94. There was no one left....

When Santorum went after atheists, I kept silent because I was a Christian.

When Santorum went after women for having abortions, I kept silent because I was a man.

When Santorum went after gay people, I kept silent because I was straight.

When Santorum went after straight people for having sex, I said "What the F***!"

[PurityOfEssence]

97. What he REALLY means is that "society shouldn't tolerate sex"

Euuh, it's messy and dirty and godgodgodgod hates anyone having any fun, especially any fun HE can't have.

Tight-assed, prissy weirdos need to get lives, but because they can't, they have to take away the joy of others.

[arwalden]

99. I Can't Help But Wonder How Small His Cock Must Be

[CalebHayes]

100. Rick Santorum = a guy who obviously can't get some nt

[Vinca]

101. I don't like to wish bad things on people, but

if ever a man deserved to have a teenage daughter get knocked up . . .