Oh, BROTHER!

[in_cog_ni_to]

What the heck is wrong with saying, "I didn't go to Yale, my parents couldn't afford it." "Unlike some of the other candidates, I grew up poor." PARAPHRASED... Clark said this on the campaign trail today and the CNN embed just said..."Clark is having to take back MORE statements today." Blah...blah...blah!

THEN, the WENCH, Judy Woodruff said....IN A SNOTTY TONE OF VOICE..."I've seen the neighborhood Wes Clark grew up in. I wonder if his old neighbors would call it a poor neighborhood?" :grr: :nuke:

[jpgray]

1. Judy Woodruff is BEYOND the pale

Really a total media whore for Bush. It would be difficult to watch her without yelling at the screen.

[flaminbats]

29. I used to respect her 10 or 20 years ago...

but now this bitch should be put on Crossfire, not as the news commentator.

[in_cog_ni_to]

2. Now, I am going to say what I REALLY think!

of Judy Woodruff...She's a FUCKING WHORE! I'm emailing her right now and telling her exactly what I think of her and damn sarcastic commentaries! :nuke: :grr:

[AP]

17. I hope peopel hear in this statement the contempt she is displaying

for people who care about class.

[madmax]

3. I heard her

This is what annoys me the most about these media whores. Injecting their worthless and irrelevant 2 cents of bullshit.

[bushwakker]

50. Clark has become a whipping boy

You can tell the GOPers are scared of a Clark nomination because they've been trashing him left and right. The Fox News AllStars were unanimous in their dismissal of his chances - with Juan Williams saying he's done after NH. Wishful thinking.

[cthrumatrix]

4. Certainly Not News (CNN) ...trying to make the news again....these

guys have no shame

[Jerseycoa]

5. Did she see it in the 1940s?

Whatta jerk!

[BuelahWitch]

8. Naw, she saw it in the 1840s!

Nasty OLD hag!

[madmax]

9. Yeah, what you said.

Pissonya Judy Dandruff :mad:

[lancdem]

11. LOL!

[slinkerwink]

6. damn those media whores!!!!

I really feel sorry for Clark because he's being criticized unfairly by our stupid infotainment media :-(

[returnable]

7. Well, the good news is no one watches CNN any more...

...the bad news is, they all watch FOX :scared:

[Forkboy]

10. Judy "The Neck" Woodruff

is slime.

[Hoppin_Mad]

12. Didn't he say he was the ONLY candidate who grew up poor ?

"He described himself as the only candidate who grew up poor, and said he was the only true Washington outsider. "

I didn't hear it.

http://edition.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/01/26/elec04.prez.main/

[Poseidon]

14. Well,

that would be a false statement.

Kucinich grew up dirt poor, as did Gephardt, and Edwards. Lieberman's parents were not exactly rich. I'm not sure about Sharpton.

[in_cog_ni_to]

23. Is it Clark's job

to point out that OTHER candidates were poor? That would sound RUDE to me. I would NEVER say something like that about another person, even if true, because it would "feel" rude to me. :shrug:

[corporatewhore]

42. welcome to DU!!

:hi:

[in_cog_ni_to]

21. He said...

"Unlike the other candidates, I grew up poor." "I didn't go to Yale, my parents couldn't afford it." Granted, he did not "single" Edwards out of "the other candidates", but the RICH ones know who the hell they are! AND, what? Edwards is insulted now because Wes didn't call him poor? That won't wash...that would be ridiculous if THAT is going to be an issue!

[Hoppin_Mad]

22. Why did YOU add 'some of ' to YOUR post then ? -nt-

[in_cog_ni_to]

25. Oh, geez! I'll add paraphrase to my quote.

It's moot to my point. Read my other posts.

[Hoppin_Mad]

27. 'the other' has an entirely different meaning than 'some of the other'

and I assume you are, and were, very aware of that.

[in_cog_ni_to]

34. Give me a break....

it was a paraphrase....I can't remember, word for word what he said...that was the GIST of it. MY point WAS....why is it his responsibility to point out who else is POOR????? That is RUDE! Don't you think? I would never, ever say that another person was poor...it's not MY place and it isn't HIS place to point out that Kucinich,, Edwards and Gep were poor. He was referring to the RICH, Yale graduates and they know who they are and so do the NH voters.

[Hoppin_Mad]

35. ABC is reporting something else entirely !

Clark said in Keene, N.H. Kerry, Dean and Lieberman graduated from the Ivy League school, as did Bush.   "Unlike all the rest of the people in this race, I did grow up poor."  

Clark's playing the 'poor card' and it's just not true !

http://abcnews.go.com/wire/Politics/ap20040126_1502.html

[in_cog_ni_to]

37. But!

You know damn good and well WHO that was aimed at! Shit, someone is sounding more and more like Judy Woodruff. It is NOT Wes Clark's job to tell the world that Dennis Kucinich and John Edwards were POOR! Give it a rest. Do you actually believe that there is ONE person left on this earth who DOESN'T know that John Edwards is the "son of a millworker" and Dennis Kucinich grew up in poverty? Damn.

Change ONE damn word in that sentence....rest=some...would THAT make you happy? Un-fucking-believable.

[Hoppin_Mad]

38. I'm sorry you feel compelled to spin Clark's unfortunate misstatement

Candidates sometimes misspeak.

I prefer to accept this and admit that they're human rather than to create some cockamamy story about what they 'meant'

When Dean said 'Soviet Union' it was a mistake.

When Clark said "Unlike all the rest of the people in this race, I did grow up poor." it was a mistake.

It's not such a big deal.

[in_cog_ni_to]

40. Show me ONE thread where "I"

participated in a Dean "Soviet Union" smear. Never happened. I am not spinning his words. I am saying that YOU, Hoppin_Mad, just don't want to admit that you know who that statement was aimed at. You know it was Kerry, Dean and Bush. If he misspoke, he shouldn't be skewered for it. Leave that to Judy Woodruff and her cohorts...they are doing that for you. Not to worry.

[RetroLounge]

46. Actually, I think Clark is somewhat correct

as Kucinich isn't *IN* the race...

Yeah, I know about Edwards.

Son-of-a-mill-worker...
Son-of-a-mill-worker...
Son-of-a-mill-worker...
Son-of-a-mill-worker...
Son-of-a-mill-worker...
Son-of-a-mill-worker...
Son-of-a-mill-worker...
Son-of-a-mill-worker...
Son-of-a-mill-worker...
Son-of-a-mill-worker...
Son-of-a-mill-worker...
Son-of-a-mill-worker...
Son-of-a-mill-worker...

[drfemoe]

47. LOL - "poor card" .. now we have a "poor card" too funny .. n/t

[Jerseycoa]

32. Kucinich was the poorest

if we're counting. It wasn't a good statement by Clark. But he was comparing himself to the Yalies in the race.

[beaconess]

13. I'll bet the people in JUDY'S neighborhood would call it poor!

[SeattleRob]

15. The attacks will get worst...

The whore media did a full out assault on Dean and they are just starting on Clark. Hold on to your hats and be prepared to fight back!

[in_cog_ni_to]

16. I just sent her an email

I'm sure it will make her day! Man I hate her!

[madmax]

18. I've been sending emails since Campaign 2000

None of the CNN or MSNBC whores answer me except for the occasional 'form' comment. But, I get to vent my spleen ;)

[Nazgul35]

19. Welcome to the hell that is a

Dean supporters world!!!

I can understand your frustration....

It is clear to me that the candidates the media hates the most are Clark and Dean....

anyone who dares communicate directly to the people and cut out their lucrative hold on the masses will be delt with!!!!

[madmax]

20. I feel your pain.

Honest, I do. :pals:

[justinpower]

26. DK should be so lucky

to get the coverage your guys get. The media is far more biased against him and Sharpton. Quit whining

[edzontar]

36. Yes. This is the sort of crap Dean has been dealing with for 3 months...

For some reason, the whores seem to have Clark in their sights now.

I will not say that turn-about is fair play.

I will not gloat as I read exclamations of outrage from people who were promoting the media trashing of Dean just a few short days ago.

But i will remind you that some of us tried to warn you that this was coming.

And after they have knocked off everyome else, it will be Kerry---I just wonder what those pigs have in store for HIM.....

[Snivi Yllom]

24. How much does Judy charge for a trick?

MEDIA WHORE!

[incapsulated]

28. Whatever it is...

it's too much.

:puke:

[montanacowboy]

33. Ask her husband

the so called Democrat "Al Hunt" what a joke

[HFishbine]

30. This is bullshit

This hyper focus on precise accuracy is just an excuse for the lazy news whores and pricks not to have to do any real thinking or engage in a disucssion of any substance.

Whether this pablum is being laid upon Clark, or Kerry, or Kucicich, or Edwards, or Sharpton, or Dean, or yes, even Lieberman, we should object. There may be a twinlke of satisfaction in thinking "Well, now he's getting what my candidate had to suffer," it will never stop until we all condemn it every time it happens.

[redqueen]

31. I agree mostly

I only think that no matter how much we condemn it, nothing will change unless it's made illegal. Money talks.

[HFishbine]

41. It has nothing to do with money

It's about media incompetence and I don't know how you can outlaw that.

[tryanhas]

39. Clark needs to learn to THINK before he speaks!!!

He just starts talking and spouts out anything!!!

He had the audacity to spout out "I HAVE NEVER TAKEN A DIME FROM WASHINGTON LOBBYISTS!"

Ummm, Wes. Last time we checked you WERE A WASHINGTON LOBBYISTS before you got into the race.

This guy shoots from the hip more than Dean, and Clark is worse at it than Dean because most of the time what Clar shoots out has nothing to do with what he is talking about.

How do you jump from "I'M A GENERAL" straight into "I have never taken a dime from Washington lobbyist"?

Please, stop embarassing yourself Clark...

[in_cog_ni_to]

43. When did he say that?

Do you have a link? Thanks!

[Jerseycoa]

52. He said it

I think he means for his campaign or so I took it. The microscope is really hard today.

[drfemoe]

53. He said it during the same show you're reporting .. in the restaurant ..nt

[in_cog_ni_to]

55. I missed that!

I must have been so pissed off at the embed that I missed it. I'll have to pay attention the next time they show that clip...and they WILL show it 10,964 more times tonight. :( He didn't say that. Why would he say that after he's already admitted that he was a lobbyist? :shrug: Makes no sense. :(

[HFishbine]

44. This is an issue of particular importance to me

and I don't recall the General ever having said that. Do you have a link? When, where did you hear this?

[ncrainbowgrrl]

48. today at a stump speech...

I heard it too... it might be archived on CSPAN. I also thought it was a little weird.

[drfemoe]

57. It was on Wolf Blitzer reports .. isn't that the show

this thread is about? He was on camera .. he said it .. and that he is not responsible for what has happened in Washington. He's not a politician . :crazy: People don't just suddenly become politicians just because they decide to run for President. He actually went on to say he had never put any deals together or cast votes for anything ... he doesn't know what to say. No experience in politics. He's trying to make it a PLUS, but imo, he had a much better arrangement with his pre-campaign gigs.. for HIM.

[Hoppin_Mad]

49. Wasn't it Edwards who said that ?

"I've never taken a dime from a Washington lobbyist and I never will. "

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2004/01/14/politics1827EST0817.DTL

[joanski01]

45. I heard that snide remark

come out of Judy's mouth. Totally uncalled for. Corporate media whores. That's all there is to it. They pick on every word that comes out of our candidates' mouths, but the chimpshit can lie all he wants. They sure don't give a hoot about American democracy. And they are all pissed at Wes, because he said he was going to do something about all of this.

[Jerseycoa]

51. Clark just apologized - CNN

for overstating poor boy stuff.

[question everything]

54. The apology was to Edwards

who, like Clark, did not go to Ivy League school.

[Jerseycoa]

56. Yes and Kucinich nt