**************OFFICIAL HACKETT ELECTION RESULTS THREAD #8 ************

[NMDemDist2]

#7 is here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=1979268&mesg_id=1979268

[yankeefanatic3]

1. Is it true that the "bluer" Cleremont areas have yet to report? nt

[yankeefanatic3]

4. CLEREMONT COUNTY VOTING RESULTS CURRENTLY "UNAVAILABLE"

I hope people took screenshots!

[tk2kewl]

9. apparently humidty is effecting the machines

:grr:

[Mz Pip]

15. Why does "humidity"

always favor them??? :sarcasm:

Mz Pip
:dem:

[Guaranteed]

19. Wasn't it terrorism last time?

Or was that a different county?

[Mz Pip]

Terrorism

Humidity.

The terrorists hate us for our humidity... :crazy:

Mz Pip
:dem:

[Pacifist Patriot]

50. That was Warren County I believe.

[Mr_Spock]

5. We can always hope so

Why not :D

[lildreamer316]

2. Thanks..n/t

[Sparkly]

3. The Clermont website seems to be down...

"Service Unavailable."

[karlrschneider]

8. How conveeeeenient...

:grr:

[OrangeCountyDemocrat]

10. No Reason To Be Suspicious...

Sarcasm Off

[Guaranteed]

13. It was just the humidity! Ha ha! nt

[Mr_Spock]

11. Yeah, DU was just down too!!

+Crazy night tonignt

[Guaranteed]

12. Yup.

Yup.

Unbelievable. The place oughta be raided, RIGHT NOW.

[Ioo]

21. And when it comes back online...

Bush will win again, opps wrong page... I mean Shmit will win by 234,329 votes

[Reciprocity]

6. Only 52.36% Cleremont vote in.

[Mz Pip]

7. Damnit

I can't stand this!!!

I wish could have voted in Ohio. Sigh.

Mz Pip
:dem:

[Connie_Corleone]

18. I'm in Hamilton County, but in District 1.

Oh, how much I wanted to vote today.

[meganmonkey]

14. Wow! Check out this comment:

A freeper's comment:

To: A CA Guy
Granted the turnout was low, and the GOP took this one for granted until the tracking polls came in a few days ago, and they panicked, and did a money dump, but Hackett sliced into the GOP base like a sharp knife into butter. The swing was particularly ugly outside the Cincinnati metro area. There it was a total disaster. Those folks like war veterans who are unhappy wiht the Bush act regarding it, is my assumption. It was an emotional thing. There, at least a third of the Bush vote exited.
The Dems have every right to crow about this one. This CD is one of the most reliably GOP in the nation, particularly since it takes in rich GOP Cincinatti suburbs, and hyper GOP exurbs (who tend not to swing much), along with rural GOP counties, and marginal to mildly Dem Scioto and Pike counties. But the counties outside the metro area count for only about 20-25% of the district I would guess.


784 posted on 08/02/2005 7:20:44 PM PDT by Torie
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[Sparkly]

27. "Those folks like war veterans who are unhappy wiht the Bush act..."

(You listening, General?)

[girl gone mad]

51. :)

I still believe Clark is exactly the kind of candidate we need to win over rural and exurban voters.

[driver8]

88. I agree 110%!! I would love to see Clark run...

He would trample any re-thug chickenhawk...provided the votes got counted.

[mconvente]

16. someone get screenshots n/t

[Reciprocity]

17. Roughly 893 behind

[formernaderite]

20. I was surprised

to see his webcast commercial, which apparently played on Ohio TV. On his website he is exactly my cup of tea...in the ad, I was pretty confused as it started out with Bush front and center, as if he was running as a repub...actually he doesn't mention he's a democratic candidate.

I guess it's smart politiking to confuse the voter...I would have thought better of him. His website and slogan made him sound like someone proud of who he was and everything he'd done. I really liked the sound of him from his website....that said, I was sorely dissapointed by his tv ad. Is that really what we have to do to win now? Best of luck to him anyway.

[rrrevolution]

22. Clermont - Suspicious?? Humidity? Likely story . . .

well I guess they will have to call in a Diebold repairman to fix them won't they?

[Sparkly]

30. Yup, a little cloud of humidity not seen elsewhere.... n/t

[peace frog]

60. Bingo!

[David Zephyr]

23. Chickenhawk! Son of a Bitch! There I've said it, too!

Go Paul! Thanks for telling the truth!

Thanks for showing all of the wimps in the Democratic Party how to fight!

[MelissaB]

24. Anybody know where Blackwell is tonight?

[Mr_Spock]

28. He's off sucking someones blood I'm sure

:D

[MelissaB]

33. I hope they don't have another lockdown to count the votes.

:grr:

[Bumblebee]

31. Buying giant humidifiers

[Guaranteed]

34. LOL...anyone check the weather in Clermont County?

Might wanna get a screenshot, too.

[ClayZ]

49. My guess is...

MUGGY
:sarcasm:

[DURHAM D]

32. On his way to Crawford to explain how he bought in the

Repug victory again. Excuse me I meant brought in.

[personman]

54. Choking a puppy to attain an erection. nt

[Cobalt Violet]

90. In his office messing with the tabulator.

[ClayZ]

25. They are having a "struggle" with humidity. n/t

[David Zephyr]

29. Humidity because they are sweating like Nixon at the GOP HQ.

Go Paul!

[NMDemDist2]

35. humidity = flop sweat

:rofl:

[Reciprocity]

52. weather humidity: 44%

[truth2power]

108. Cincinnati weather: 84 degrees. Rel humid. 44, Dew point 60

Link here for weather screenshot.

http://wcpo.com/weather/

I'm not good at this.

edit> never mind. Tried to paste screen capture.

[Ian David]

26. I hope there were a lot of volunteer election monitors this time?

This is being closely watched, yes?

See also:
Jean Schmidt blatantly violating election law (from Daily KOS)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4246421

[Redroach]

40. A Good Night

To get it this close in a district won by * 70-30 is a victory to me.

[Bumblebee]

47. If we cannot win it outright, I'd settle for a very-very close one

and a very big scandal. Seems like both are definitely in the making. "We'll bury him?!" -- my ass.

[recoveringdittohed]

36. This just reported

Just reported on local news here in Cincinnati (channel 19)that there were "voting irregularities" (*channel 19's words not mine) in Clermont & that the remaining precincts were being counted by hand.

[startingnow]

of course there were.

;)

[Mr_Spock]

41. Are you joking?

What's up with that!

[Guaranteed]

42. ROFL!! They tried to stuff! nt

[Lex]

43. Oh sh*t.

The fix is in.

[Sparkly]

44. Hmmmm....

:freak:

[OilemFirchen]

45. "Voting Irregularities"

aka Hackett won.

[tk2kewl]

46. Wow!

That is Schmidts home county. I wonder who is responsible for the irregularities? :sarcasm:

[cally]

48. Whaaat?

They are so crooked. :argh:

Welcome to DU

[JimmyJazz]

63. are you sure we aren't being taunted here?

I'm just wondering. :(

[mconvente]

53. this is HUGE - get this to dailykos and mydd.com

They should recount all by hand then!

[Toots]

73. According to Supreme Court ruling in Bush* vs Gore you are right

But alas in the only Supreme Court ruling ever given that can not be used as precedent according to the ruling justices it won't happen.

[napi21]

57. Hackett better have monitors there! BTW, don't these predints

have electronic voting? If they do, how in the hell are they going to do a hand count?

[truth2power]

122. They have optical scan ballots. (Clermont)

You bubble in your choice with a pencil and ballots are read by a machine. Kind of like a scantron. So you do have the paper ballots.

In November there was a big flap about some ballots had labels pasted over the names of the candidates. I don't know what ever happened with that.

[shawn703]

58. Yeah, Hackett was winning n/t

[faithnotgreed]

59. thank you rd for the local report

were glad youre here
and look forward to paul hackett being (y)our representative

[Joanne98]

62. Do we have any observers over there?

[rrrevolution]

72. Irregularities? Yeah too many votes for Hackett

Those hand vote counts can be manipulated outside the view of poll watchers. All you have to do is just misplace a few ballot boxes that might have gone against Schmidt.

[karlrschneider]

74. What's the normal method...touch machines? Do you know?

Welcome to DU!

[Justitia]

75. We better have our own meanest SOBs down there! =eom

[Pryderi]

37. PURPLE FINGERS ALL AROUND IF HACKETT WINS! :P

[David Zephyr]

38. Something smells right now.

This isn't right.

[Mz Pip]

64. Schmidt's fingers

God knows where they've been. And her stupid nail files too.

Mz Pip
:dem:

[kwolf68]

Why Fix this county?

Come on...THis county is a far-right wing county and after the votes in this county are in this will be a several thousand vote win...NOT because of any machines, but because this last district was the one Jesus himself couldn't win if he ran on a Democratic ticket.

Hackett was amazign in this election...Our focus should be to learn what he did and take it to more moderate areas....But Clermont is a guarantee loss and the Repukes don't need to fix machines for it either.

[Bumblebee]

82. Because she needs a larger margin, because she cannot help herself,

because no election in Ohio can be validated without cheating? Because it's Ohio? Because, maybe, just maybe, he is winning there too...?

[Guaranteed]

85. There was only an 800 vote margin, last I heard.

Maybe that was after the fix.

[Reciprocity]

106. Jesus himself couldn't win if he ran on a Democratic ticket/ good one

[Pacifist Patriot]

71. Truly bizarre

[aquart]

39. It ain't the humidity, it's the flop sweat.

[Donailin]

55. screen shots

please, i hope someone is getting them. where is truthisall???

[yankeefanatic3]

70. If "humidity" really did cause a problem

What exactly WAS the problem? Was it so devastatingly hot that it stopped the tabulators cold?? It should Not take THREE hours after the polls close to geta ll the votes counted in a congressional district.

[skids]

110. It's covered.

Don't worry. Not screenshots but raw copies of the html (and one pdf) of various URLs every 2-5 minutes since this morning.

[truth2power]

125. You mean me?? I posted upthread about the temp and humidity with link.

Tried to post screen shot of weather website. Couldn't get it to work. Isn't there anyone here who can do a screenshot??

Here's the link again:

http://wcpo.com/weather/

[Sparkly]

56. What's Clermont's voting system? Optical scans? Touchscreen?

Punch ballots? Or all different? :shrug:

[Teaser]

66. scanned punch ballots

I think

[cally]

69. Others have reported Clermont

has optical scans. The rest of the district has punchcards.

[Sparkly]

76. No touchscreens, all paper? GOOD!!!

:bounce:

[democrank]

61. Hey....this "humidity" excuse could catch on.

Maybe when Dubya gets back from his excellent Crawford adventure, he can make a big prime time announcement:

No WMDs in Iraq because of humidity.
They hate us for our humidity.
I was AWOL because of humidity.

The possibilities are endless.

[Sparkly]

68. LOL!!!

"Need some humidity?"

[senseandsensibility]

78. Don't forget the humidity!

:rofl:

[Lauri]

65. Close election making news at msnb.com & cnn.com

from cnn.com

"Bush War Critic Holds Narrow Lead in Ohio"

"Iraq war vet in close race in Ohio
Democrat in congressional race has blasted Bush policies"


from msnbc.com

"Tight race in Ohio Special Election"

"Ohio congressional race neck-and-neck
Iraq war veteran battling GOP lawmaker "

[yankeefanatic3]

105. If they count them "By hand"

It better be a fair process. This night is never going to end. Crooks anD Liars!!!

[Endangered Specie]

67. I just got in, can y'all fill me in?

I see its pretty close.

[Skink]

77. The fix is in...

can you say voting irregularities.

[tk2kewl]

80. more likely counting irregularities

[Connie_Corleone]

81. Hand counts going on now in Clermont County due to

"humidity" affecting the machines.

[Mr_Spock]

86. C'mon, that's the lamest crap I've ever heard

That's just ludicrous!

[HootieMcBoob]

79. Something aint right

something very fishy going on here...

[Mr_Spock]

83. It's gonna be a looooooong night!

For sure...

[Ian David]

91. Daily Show comes on soon. Too bad this won't be settled by then

I have a feeling this is going to drag on for days.

Maybe it will even get the GOP vote-rigging aparatus busted once and for all.

[Mr_Spock]

He's taped anyway

He don't do live! lol

[Writer]

98. They tape that show around 5pm anyway...

if you hear about it, it won't be until tomorrow. At the very least.

[Bumblebee]

101. Now I actually hope it drags on for days

what's better than H wins and they get exposed? Ohio GOP and scandal is, after all, such a familiar notion right now, much more so than it was in 2004 -- wouldn't you say? :)

[Bumblebee]

89. You sound surprised - shocked, shocked?!!

[Miss Chybil]

94. Why doesn't everybody calm down and see what the results are

before claiming the fix is in? This is REALLY close. Take a breath. I'm afraid every election from now on will be an honest election, if we win, and a crooked one, if we don't. Crying foul on every ball diminishes the impact of the homers.

[Donailin]

84. Clermont voting equipment crashes!!!! Ah, Jaysus!!!!!

From KOS:


Voting Equipment Crashes in Clermont (none / 0)

Report: Voting equipment crashes in Clermont County

"There is a report that voting equipment has crashed in Clermont County and that the remaining ballots will have to be counted by hand."

http://www.cincynation.com/

[Mr_Spock]

How do you count electrons?

What the fuck if they had electronic only?

[startingnow]

109. I was just going to ask the same thing!

x(

[truth2power]

126. As I posted upthread. Clermont has optical scan ballots.

Paper ballots that are read by a machine.

[JimmyJazz]

96. OH FOR FUX SAKE - If I did my job like this, I'd be fired and my job

isn't NEARLY as important as a fucking election. I'm sorry for the rant, but I'm in a BAD mood. x(

[driver8]

97. WTF?? Diebold couldn't fix this one so they crashed the system??

I have a friend from Ohio who tells me there is nothing wrong with elections in that state (he is a re-thug).

Yeah...pull this leg and it plays jingle bells!!

[HootieMcBoob]

100. here we go again

:banghead:

[Fleshdancer]

111. So who do we need to call??? Media? DNC? Anyone?

I like hand counts, hand counts are good. I just want to know who is in there that we can trust.

[MelissaB]

We need to use this to demand VVPB.

NO vapor votes.

[meganmonkey]

113. Holy shit

:wow:

[Dragonfli]

114. The Spin on this should be fun to watch

They really got trounced tonight, even if they "win" the race
(heavy republican district turned 50/50 white knuckle ride).

Added bonus -

There will be a recount. They will then have to justify THE EQUIPMENT that WE may be able to prove is not adequate for an accurate recount.
Think of that bonus opportunity.

[Zen Democrat]

115. Jeeeez .... what is this Cincy Nation site ??????

They say in the article that Hackett is getting 30,000 votes less than Sanders did in 2004 so apparently lots of Dems stayed home.

They don't even mention that Schmitt is getting about 180,000 less than Portman's total!

What a slanted article. OHMYGOD!

[Justitia]

87. Fucking "humidity"??? I predict street riots. -eom

[tk2kewl]

92. i suggest them

peacful riots ;)

[halobeam]

93. doubt that.... so do they....that's why they keep up with these charades.

Damn hand counts... could this be any more obvious? Holy hell.

[niallmac]

99. nah. too humid. n/t

[Ksec]

95. so these machines are worthless in other words..

[riverwalker]

102. Ohio folks, keep us posted

on local TV updates. Thanks for those who already have.
I am going freakin' insane trying to figure out whats going on.

[NMDemDist2]

103. Locking, continue in thread 9

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=132

[NMDemDist2]

104. Locking, continue in thread 9

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=132

[Mr_Spock]

107. Wow, who would've expected all this drama???

It's better than Monk :D

[meganmonkey]

117. No suprise thanks to OH election history

:puke:

[alfredo]

112. 10:44

JEAN SCHMIDT 49,681 50%
PAUL HACKETT 48,811 50%

[chiffon]

116. 100% reporting for every other ballot category....gee whiz..

[rrrevolution]

118. Results from Clermont website 10:49 191 of 191 reporting ...

Special General 2005
8/2/05
08/02/05, 10:49:17 PM
191 of 191 Precincts Reporting



Representative to Congress 2nd District (Vote for: 1)
Early Voting Election Day Provisional Total Percentage
JEAN SCHMIDT 1158 16162 0 17320 58.09%
PAUL HACKETT 750 11689 0 12439 41.72%
Write In Votes 3 56 0 59 0.20%
Total Votes Cast 1911 27907 0 29818 100.00%

[Call me Deacon Blues]

120. That's bullshit

On edit: Whoops, that's not for the entire district. Sorry.

[creeksneakers2]

121. The wingers at RedState.org are callilng it Schmidt by 3000

with 100% reporting. Its not showing up elsewhere though.

[1songbird]

124. Jean is now giving her acceptance speech on channel 5.

The Associated Press has called it for her with 52 to 48 percent.

[smartvoter]

119. WOW!!! I was out for an hour and am SHOCKED at this! This is

H U G E for us!!!

[smartvoter]

123. 52-48 Final??? (we lose...)

[Mr.Green93]

127. No recount?

All those stuck together ballots?