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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 06:57 AM
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DNC? Dean? re: Hackett
I'm sorry, did I miss something here?

I read and listen to progressive talk. I must have missed the backing Paul Hackett received from the party.

Seriously, did he?
He had a hell of a grassroots/blogger run but what occured at the Democratic Party headquarters?

Sorry if I missed it.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 07:08 AM
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1. He got Max Cleland the weekend-before-last.
Beyond that, pretty much gar nichts. I'm of two minds on this.

On one hand, I think the DNC did its usual day-late/dollar-short bit here, when some more resources could've, in theory, helped.

On the other hand, sometimes when you get the establishment people in early, it takes the fire, the independence away from a candidate. Hackett probably wouldn't have called the President an SOB and chickenhawk. And my life would be so much poorer for not having heard a Dem actually saying those things.

My take-away here is that we can win by going on the offensive and calling out the liars. My god, this district has been Reep for 24 years, with an average 15+% margin; we came within 4 points this time.

I hope and pray the DNC learns the lesson--that by being nasty and rude and in-your-face we'll prevail in closer Reep-held districts. My fear is the pink-tutu brigade will look at this and say, "If we hadn't been so gosh-darn rude, we might have won."
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 07:18 AM
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2. Thanks for your excellent take! n/t
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 07:20 AM
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3. i got emaiLs from dean about hackett
asking for money and support for hackett. :shrug:
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:13 AM
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5. I got something like that....
but it was to send to the DNC. I sent a small contribution directly to Hackett.
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kansasblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:11 AM
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4. It shows: "contest every election in every state! "
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:15 AM
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6. So a near plurality in a district where the previous candidate got 28%....
....means nothing to you?

Dean said "contest every election" and that's what was done.

If not for the "humidity" in Lizard Queen's hometown, Hackett would probably be the winner this morning. We probably will never know the reality of it.
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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:16 AM
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7. The DNC vice-chair
(I think it's Suzie Turnbull and I think she's vice chair) came out with a busload of volunteers. She had a blog at Kos about DNC efforts. I think she had worked in this district on a campaign at one time. There's some pictures of her at one of the rallies. I also think DNC provided some organizers for the GOTV efforts.
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:24 AM
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9. There are 5 DNC vice chairs, Turnbull is one of them . . .
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:26 AM
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10. Do not confuse the DNC with the DCCC and congressional leaders.
You sound like you are doing that. Go to Kos and read Susie's diary. She had a bunch of folks with her. In fact, I will find the diary at MyDD.
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:29 AM
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11. I'm not confused
Did you follow link I provided?

Again there are five (5) DNC vice chairs:

For your benefit here are the DNC officers:

DNC Officers
Howard Dean, Chairman
Lottie Shackelford, Vice Chair
Linda Chavez-Thompson, Vice Chair
Rep. Mike Honda, Vice Chair
Susan Turnbull, Vice Chair
Mark Brewer, Vice Chair, Chairman ASDC
Andrew Tobias, Treasurer
Alice Travis Germond, Secretary
Maureen White, National Finance Chair
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:37 AM
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13. Yes, I know that.
So you think all should have gone? I don't understand your issue with Susie taking a caravan there. Read her diary. Can't get to Kos right now, but there is more there.
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:56 AM
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15. I think the DNC did a great job for Hackett.
Edited on Wed Aug-03-05 10:57 AM by goodhue
Where did I suggest otherwise?

A poster stated that "The DNC vice-chair" went to Ohio. I merely pointed out that there was more than one vice chair.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:24 AM
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8. This is ridiculous. Do you ever go to the DNC website?
His picture has been on the front page for days. Here is a link to the many articles at the DNC website concerning him.

http://www.democrats.org/cgi-bin/mt-search.cgi?IncludeBlogs=1&search=hackett&x=15&y=2

Susie Turnbull wrote diaries on it at Kos. She is the vice chair of the DNC. I have a picture to prove she was there, or pershaps I should say it was up on the internet...Kos or Booman or MyDD, not sure.

The DCCC is the one who as usual was late to the game, and that is their policy. They only support candidates who prove they can get money first.

In case you don't know, DFA raised almost 100,000 for him and had a large group on the ground.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:33 AM
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12. Here is Susie's diary about Ohio. She is a vice chair of the DNC.
http://www.mydd.com/story/2005/8/1/16116/91704

Dean's 50 state strategy was at work in Ohio, and the DNC was involved in it. He was in Birmingham yesterday, and Atlanta tomorrow and maybe today, enemy territory, but the DNC was working with Hackett.

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:44 AM
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14. First Wind in a Hurricane...from the front page of the DNC
www.democrats.org

The First Wind in a Hurricane
Posted by Josh McConaha on August 2, 2005 at 11:30 PM

After a hard-fought race, Democrat and former Marine Paul Hackett came within a handful of votes or winning in one of the most Republican areas of the country. This was a win for Democrats everywhere, and Paul Hackett has made Democrats nationwide proud. Paul was a phenomenal candidate - one that put his life on the line in Iraq and was ready to serve again in Washington. Republican Jean Schmidt is the poster child for Ohio corruption - and she'll fit right in with the Republican caucus.





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kwolf68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 11:00 AM
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16. Good quote

I was bitter last night about what a wasteland America is becomming, but Hackett nearly won this thing...In a completely mind-numb surbaban hell of Christo-nazis...

Maybe our nation is coming in from their slumber. Paul Hackett may have done more to save the modern day Democratic Party than anyone in our lifetimes.

Let's get a SENATOR HACKETT elected in 2006. He would shred the less right-wing areas of the states while still probably tracking great numbers in the more Conservative districts. He has the experience of a campaign and now can refine his skills and get to the Senate in 2006.

America needs him in Washington DC.
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