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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 09:30 AM
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Here are the Rovergate Puzzle Pieces DU, Let's connect the dots !
Edited on Thu Aug-04-05 10:24 AM by Laura PackYourBags
INFORMATION WH REFUSED TO GIVE UP – Who were ALL the people on AF1 for the trip to Africa, and a list of those who were in attendance at the White House reception on July 16 for former President Gerald Ford
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0305-02.htm
<snip>
...the subpoena requested a list of those in attendance at the White House reception on July 16 for former President Gerald Ford's 90th birthday. The White House at the time announced the reception would honor Federal Reserve Board Chairman Alan Greenspan, but said the event was closed to the press. The White House Thursday declined to release the list and the Gerald R. Ford Foundation, which paid for the event, did not return phone calls. <snip>

<snip> ....It requested records of telephone calls to and from Air Force One from July 7 to 12, while Bush was visting several nations in Africa. The White House declined Thursday to release a list of those on the trip.

SUBPOENAED DOCUMENTS OF NOTE - Ari's Press Gaggle July 12, 2003, AF1 Phone Records (from July 7 to 12), all documents from July 6 to July 30 of the White House Iraq Group (WHIG) The members of the White House Iraq Group are:

Karl Rove
Karen Hughes
Mary Matalin
James R. Wilkinson
Nicholas E. Calio
Condoleezza Rice
Stephen Hadley
I. Lewis (Scooter) Libby


http://www.sourcewatch.org/wiki.phtml?title=White_House_Iraq_Group
<snip>
We know that Fitzgerald subpoenaed the complete transcript of his July 12, 2003 press gaggle conducted at a hospital in Nigeria. We know that he subpoenaed telephone records for Air Force One during a portion of the trip. We also know that he subpoenaed the July 6 to July 30, 2003 records of the White House Iraq Group, a public relations kind of task force formed by Cheney's staff to promote the Administrations' view of the war. <snip> Transcripts and excellent analysis of gaggles found at http://talkleft.com/new_archives/011478.html
Note: The transcript of the July 12th press gaggle was mysteriously missing from the WH website and then reappeared.

EXCELLENT TIMELINE AND BASIS FOR CONDI'S COMPLICITY
http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0728-25.htm
<snip> For those who know the invariably central role of the NSC Advisor in sensitive political subjects in foreign policy and in White House leaks to the media as well as tending of policy, especially in George W. Bush’s rigidly disciplined, relentlessly political regime, Rice by both commission and omission was integral in perpetrating the original fraud of Niger, and then inevitably in the vengeful betrayal of Plame’s identity. None of that spilling of secrets for crass political retribution could have gone on without her knowledge and approval, and thus complicity. Little of it could have happened without her participation, if not as a leaker herself, at least with her direction and with her scripting.<snip>

FITZGERALD KNOWS ABOUT GANNON
http://www.niagarafallsreporter.com/slaughterhelp.html
http://www.house.gov/judiciary_democrats/fitzgeraldgann...
<snip> This latest effort comes in the wake of Rep. Louise Slaughter's Feb. 9 letter to Bush concerning the Guckert affair. Along with Rep. John Conyers of Michigan, she has asked Patrick Fitzgerald, the special prosecutor investigating the leak of CIA operative Valerie Plame's identity to the media, to look into Guckert's role in that case, and called on the Government Accountability Office to include Guckert in its probe of mainstream media figures who accepted payola to promote the Bush administration agenda.

In an interview with "Editor and Publisher" last week, Guckert revealed he had kept a personal diary during his two years at the White House, said it was about 200 pages long, and suggested it might become the basis for a book. Slaughter jumped on the statement.

"I hope the Special Prosecutor will take seriously the revelation that Mr. Gannon kept a detailed diary of his time inside the White House," she said. "He may find many answers to the questions we have sought surrounding Mr. Gannon's White House access on those pages."

In a Feb. 23 letter, Slaughter and Conyers called on Fitzgerald to subpoena the diary. <snip>

CAST OF CHARACTERS IN ROVERGATE
(Compiled by joemurphy at http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph... )

Persons Reported to Have Testified before the Grand Jury
Israel “Izzy” Hernandez – Former Bush/Rove Aide and now Assistant Secretary of Commerce
Susan Ralston- Rove Aide (and former Top-Aide to Jack Abramoff)http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2005/8/2/123052/6027
Bill Harlow – Former CIA spokesman
http://www.davidcorn.com/
John McLaughlin- Deputy CIA Director
Friend of Wilson’s (Name Unrevealed) - Met with Novak in the street
Carl Ford, Jr. –Director of State Department Bureau of Intelligence and Research
Alberto Gonzales – Former White House Counsel and now Attorney General
Karl Rove – Deputy Chief of Staff in Charge of Policy for the President
I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby - Chief of Staff for the Vice-President
Colin Powell – Former Secretary of State
Karen Hughes – Senior White House Aide
Ari Fleischer – Former White House Press Secretary
Scott McClellan – Current White House Press Secretary
Claire Buchan – Deputy White House Press Secretary
Adam Levine – Former White House Communications Aide
Mary Matalin – Former Advisor to the Vice President
Tim Russert – Host of “Meet the Press” MSNBC
Matthew Cooper – Time Magazine
Walter Pincus – Washington Post
Andrea Mitchell – Reporter MSNBC

Persons Who Refuse to Say if They Have Testified before the Grand Jury:
Robert Novak – Reporter for the Chicago Tribune
Addition by OP here - John Bolton - http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/000799.html

Persons Who Have Refused to Testify:
Judith Miller – New York Times

Persons Interviewed by Patrick Fitzgerald (But Not under Oath)
George W. Bush – President of the United States
Richard Cheney – Vice-President of the United States

Persons Reportedly Interviewed by FBI and Who Also Testified before the Grand Jury:
Karl Rove - Bush's Former Senior Adviser and Present Chief of Staff
Scott McClellan – White House Press Secretary
Mary Matalin – Former Advisor to the Vice President
Adam Levine- Former White House Communications Aide
Ari Fleischer – Former White House Press Secretary
I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby - Chief of Staff for the Vice-President
Glenn Kessler – Diplomatic Reporter for the Washington Post

Persons Reportedly Interviewed by the FBI but Not Known to Have Testified before the Grand Jury:
James Guckert a/k/a Jeff Gannon a/k/a "Bulldog" - Talon News
Dan Bartlett – White House Communications Director
Cathie Martin – Aide to the Vice-President.
George Tenet - Former CIA Director

Persons Possibly Figuring into the Valerie Plame Leak Investigation in Some Way But Who Are Not Known to Have Been Interviewed by the FBI or to Have Testified before the Grand Jury
Andrew Card – White House Chief of Staff
Condoleezza Rice – Secretary of State and Former NSC Director; Member of WHIQ
Stephen Hadley – Chief National Security Advisor, Former Deputy Director of NSC
Joseph Wilson – Former Ambassador to Sao Tomé and Gabon (His NYT op-ed piece started it all
Elliott Abrams – Former NSC Advisor under Bush I; Indicted for Role in Iran-Contra;
Plead Guilty and was Pardoned by Bush I; Presently Deputy NSC Advisor for Bush II
Michael Ledeen – Resident Scholar American Enterprise Institute; Thought by some to be responsible for the forged Iraq-Niger uranium purchase documents
David Wurmser-Member of Pentagon Office of Special Projects
Richard Armitage- Deputy Secretary of State
John Hannah-Senior National Security Aide on Cheney’s Staf
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 09:37 AM
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1. whow-thanks very much for this post.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 09:42 AM
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2. add this Rove aide --Susan (see story below)



More on this from ABC news sources. Stakeout at the "CIA Leak" Grand Jury


http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2005/8/2/123052/6027

So, who's been testifying?



Tue Aug-02-05 05:23 PM
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Rove Aide Called to Testify Took His Messages

Edited on Tue Aug-02-05 05:24 PM by freedomburn

ROVE AIDE CALLED TO TESTIFY TOOK HIS MESSAGES

John Byrne


A former senior aide to Bush adviser Karl Rove who reportedly gave testimony to a grand jury investigating the leaking of a CIA agent's identity answered phones and took Rove's messages, RAW STORY has discovered.

According to a 2004 Salon piece, she also had a role with one of conservative Washington's leading men, Grover Norquist, in which she took messages for Rove and called Norquist to screen callers.

"For two years, the assistant who answered Rove's phone was a woman who had previously worked for lobbyist Jack Abramoff, a close friend of Norquist's and a top DeLay fundraiser," Salon reported. "One Republican lobbyist, who asked not to be named because DeLay and Rove have the power to ruin his livelihood, said the way Rove's office worked was this: 'Susan took a message for Rove, and then called Grover to ask if she should put the caller through to Rove. If Grover didn't approve, your call didn't go through.'"

.........

http://rawstory.com/news/2005/ROVE_AIDE_CALLED_TO_TESTI...
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 09:45 AM
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4. Thanks for the link == She was on the list, Susan
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 09:43 AM
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 09:48 AM
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5. thanks - joemurphy did the most with all the names. I don't
believe anyone even in the media had done what Joe did. Welcome to DU
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 10:17 AM
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6. Members of the White House Iraq Group
Nicholas Callo
Andrew Card (formed by)
Stephen Hadley
Karen Hughes
Scooter Libby
Mary Matalin
Condi Rice
Karl Rove
Jim Wilkinson

http://www.sourcewatch.org/wiki.phtml?title=White_House_Iraq_Group

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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 10:25 AM
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8. thanks - just added
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 10:23 AM
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7. Excellent work!
Recommended.

I wish American reporters and journalists would use this information as a guide.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 10:34 AM
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9. Addendum to Puzzle: Witnesses say B** KNEW OF PLAME'S IDENTITY
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi?archive=32&num=4629

snip
Witnesses told a federal grand jury President George W. Bush knew about, and took no action to stop, the release of a covert CIA operative's name to a journalist in an attempt to discredit her husband, a critic of administration policy in Iraq.

Their damning testimony has prompted Bush to contact an outside lawyer for legal advice because evidence increasingly points to his involvement in the leak of covert CIA operative Valerie Plame's name to syndicated columnist Robert Novak. snip
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 10:43 AM
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10. One thing I find interesting...Matalin Married to James Carville
Carville, co-host with Novak on Crossfire. Reckon what kind of "pillow-talk" going on in the Carville/Matalin family? Wonder if Matalin is "scared silly."
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 10:47 AM
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11. I have thought the same thing. I saw him on CNN and they
were discussing the case. When Karen Hughes'name came up, James defended her to the hilt. He said, (paraphrasing)"I can not imagine Karen being involved in anything illegal. I suppose he has gotten to know here personnally. But how could he even think that with her role in the invasion and rape of Iraq within WHIG?
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 11:15 AM
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14. James has a wife in that group, he has a friend named Novak,
and with Karen Hughes part of the same group his wife is involved in....I think that maybe he's hoping against hope that Mary isn't in any deeper than he thinks she is. If Karen did something illegal, it's a good bet that Mary did as well. Blood is thicker than water. There's a LOT of families going to be paying the price in this scandal. Oh, the tangled web we weave.....
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 10:56 AM
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12. Possibly new dots?: The revelations from Sibel Edmonds...
...call me crazy, but I've had a theory for a long time that the so-called "Nat'l Security Gag Order" on her was really to cover the trail of some more damning evidence against this administration.

I just read last night the Vanity Fair story in the Sept. issue and the revelations that Hastert may have been paid off by the Turks and the fact that the American Turkish Council (ATC) has Brent Scowcroft on its board blew my mind.

I think there are dots there.... :hi:
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 11:23 AM
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16. Connect the dots...and this image will appear.
Edited on Thu Aug-04-05 11:25 AM by rateyes


Edit to add: I meant for this to be a reply to OP.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 11:30 AM
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17. There was an interesting article on how many times the minions
made sure to mention that Cheney knew nothing - I am going to look for it. I guess they have stopped saying B** knew nothing. It has become conventional wisdom that he never knows anything...

thanks for the pic, but I can't look at them before noon.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 11:34 AM
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20. Yeah, I'm just glad I have a cast-iron stomach. eom
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 11:32 AM
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18. Have you read anything about Edmonds on Plame? I thought
she was related to 9/11 only. Have you a link ?
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 02:59 PM
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26. Nothing directly, but read the Vanity Fair article...the portion that made
my light go off was this part in the article (on page 273):


"Another call allegedly discussed a payment to a Pentagon official who seemed to be involved in weapons-procurement negotiations.......In fact, much of what Edmonds reportedly heard seemed to concern not state espionage, but rather criminal activity. There was talk, she told investigators, of laundering the profits of large-scale drug deals and of selling classified military technologies to the highest bidder."...


Attention DUers: I believe this is the clue that is "shouting" that there is a connection between what Edmonds knows and even what Plame and Brewster Jennings was working on (weapoons procurement/black market arms and WMD trade & money laundering)and certainly even tieing it into Haliburton and others....

Connect the dots...follow the money crumb trail....
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 05:24 PM
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27. Thanks ! I am going to google everything I can find and will add
a link ...
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 11:01 AM
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13. Don't forget to add Bolton's name to the dots...we still don't have the
answers regarding the intelligence intercepts that were requested by Bolton and that the White House refused to release.....

I'm very sure there is another dot there too....

Bolton worked in State Dept on WMD's....Plame/Brewster Jennings were too.... :eyes:
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 11:23 AM
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15. Addendum2 to Puzzle: Card and Powell Complicity...
Edited on Thu Aug-04-05 11:23 AM by Laura PackYourBags
http://www.needlenose.com/node/view/1659

snip
In writing that post, I realized that where the leakers and the witness were matters a great deal to understanding what happened (and what special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald is trying to piece together). Did the leaking that the anonymous SAO saw occur in the White House, or on Air Force One during Dubya's trip to Africa in July 2003?
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dooner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 11:33 AM
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19. Mapping the "west wing" details
Links from this 2004 Froomkin editorial include floor plan of the west wing (interesting to see who sits where), names/salaries of assistants, etc.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&contentId=A45953-2004Mar10¬Found=true
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 11:41 AM
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21. Very interesting. Libby not there
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 12:11 PM
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22. need to throw in Rhode, Ghorbanifar, et al
There are a few more "usual suspects" to throw in there.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 07:12 PM
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28. good idea. just printed related articles -- will post link(s) thanks
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 08:54 PM
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29. here's one
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rndmprsn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 12:14 PM
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23. excellent...thanks for this.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 12:28 PM
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24. Check out this blog. Investigative reporter keeps a running blog on this
http://whateveralready.blogspot.com/

Murray Waas, he is all over this story. And blogs what he learns.

Worth bookmarking.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 01:00 PM
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25. Great thread!
Thanks for kicking it off with all that info and to all who will keep adding to it. It's stuff like this that keeps DU a worthwhile source of valuable info.

:toast:
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