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windbreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 11:35 AM
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 11:37 AM
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1. link not working
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 11:38 AM
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2. Fix your link
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windbreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 11:39 AM
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3. Fixed....apologies
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Boredtodeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 11:41 AM
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4. Who CARES?
Robert Novak is ONE right wing journalist. A nothing to anybody but politically involved activists - part of the DC culture.

OK, so he behaved like an ass yesterday, but all this talk about Bob Novak in DEM circles elevates him to Rush Limbaugh status and feeds his already massive ego.

Let's discuss starving children in Niger, or better yet, starving children in Appalachia instead of 40 threads about Bob Novak.

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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 11:48 AM
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7. You mean you're NOT ALREADY helping starving children??
Edited on Fri Aug-05-05 11:53 AM by ClassWarrior
Geez. I can multi-task - help good causes and trash Republicon operatives like Novak at the same time. (Yes, a Republicon operative, not a two-bit RW "journalist." He's been present at too many critical junctures in contemporary history to be a mere hack.)

NGU.


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Boredtodeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 12:10 PM
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12. So the other 39 threads weren't enough for you?
And ANOTHER one has just been added.

Yeah, it's productive to bury good discussions about Democratic issues with stupid discussions about a right wing hack journalist.

It's REAL productive to push good, intelligent discussions off the page with numbers 40 and 41 discussion about a right wing hack journalist.
:sarcasm:
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 12:15 PM
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13. You buy yourself a lot of credibility by calling people stupid.
:rofl:

NGU.


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Boredtodeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 12:17 PM
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14. Wanna know why it's STUPID?
Because none of US can know Novak's motivation; and speculating on it while REAL issues get pushed off the table is UTTERLY stupid.

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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 12:22 PM
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15. Boy, the world would be great if only everyone was the same as you...
Edited on Fri Aug-05-05 12:24 PM by ClassWarrior
Right?

So how is treason NOT a real issue?

NGU.


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Boredtodeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 12:31 PM
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16. The thread wasn't ABOUT Treason
Of course, you could have joined in THIS discussion about the topic:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=1985716&mesg_id=1985716

But then, you're "brilliant" discourse might have been hidden in a thread with 134 replies, right?

You should take a clue from the OP........he/she saw the futility of your argument and deleted the post. Hint, hint.

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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 12:34 PM
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17. You should bother to read before posting. He deleted his OP because...
...the story he was quoting was debunked. But don't let that stand in the way of a good trashing, right?

By the way, the thread was ABOUT a traitor. Which means someone who commits treason, if you don't want to bother reading a dictionary either.

NGU.


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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 11:41 AM
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5. i believe the news that indictments have been handed down is false
and has been debunked
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windbreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 11:47 AM
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6. Can you point me
to the article that says that? This is what I wanted to know...if it's not good info...I will remove the original post...(if I can figure out how)
windbreeze
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 11:48 AM
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8. our intrepid DUers did the debunking (Will Pitt among them IIRC)
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 12:03 PM
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11. Link, please? n/t
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 11:51 AM
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9. Earlier someone said it was because Ed Henry had...
...a copy of "Who's Who in America" on the desk in front of him. You may remember that Novakula said he first learned Valerie Wilson's maiden name in "Who's Who." I'm guessing that was a lie and that Novak thought that Ed was going to prove it.

NGU.


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libertypirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 12:01 PM
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10. Check this out
http://citizenspook.blogspot.com/2005/08/treasongate-white-house-indicted-us.html

Citizen Spook has interviewed a representative of Randy Sanborn's office at the Dirksen Federal Courthouse in Chicago where the Fitzgerald investigation is headquartered. Randy Sanborn is the official spokesperson for the US Attorney's Office in the Northern District of Illinois. Sanborn is also the official spokesperson for Patrick Fitzgerald.

It's crucial to ask the right questions, and the right questions need the right words. The political and legal environment we find ourselves in at this strange moment in American history is centered upon the manipulation of citizen perception. We have been asked to endure a President who can say with a straight face, "That depends on what the meaning of is, is." And the current right wing lunatic harbingers of Treason are flogging a defense in the Valerie Plame affair based upon the ridiculous assertion that there's a difference between outing "Valerie Plame" and outing "Joe Wilson's wife".

....

CS: "Regarding Patrick Fitzgerald's investigation, has the US Attorney presented any Indictments to the grand jury for deliberations?"

Female assistant: "No comment."

CS: "Is the grand jury currently deliberating over any indictments?"

Female assistant: "No comment."

CS: "Has the grand jury returned any true bills?"

Female assistant: "No comment."

CS: "Has the grand jury returned any not true bills?"

Female assistant: "No comment."

CS: "Has the grand jury returned any bills of ignoramus?"

Female assistant: "No comment."

CS: "Has your office issued any Indictments?"

Female assistant: "This office has not issued any indictments."

....

The blog owner claims

Citizen Spook is an attorney licensed to practice in the US Federal Courts.



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windbreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 02:23 PM
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18. Thank you
For posting this, I found it very interesting...for those of us who do not understand how these things work...apparently, it's all in how things are worded...
windbreeze
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