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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 05:49 PM
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Running Dems in really Red areas: A Good Strategy?
Our county Dem Party newsletter had a front page article this month about running Democrats in races that have been uncontested in the past, arguing that even if we don't think we can win in those areas, it's a good thing to run anyway.

For one thing, you force the Repubs to spend money in a race that they might not have spent otherwise. For another, you up the visibility of the party in your area.

Those were a couple of their reasons. Not surprising they were talking about this, and asking folks to run regardless of whether they think they can win, considering how Red an area the county is.

What say you? Resources better spent in areas where we can win? Or better to make Repubs work for it, ala Hackett?
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ray of light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 05:52 PM
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1. I believe we should run everywhere.
But I heavily agree with strong grassroots leading the way. (That's why I'm also a member of the Democracy Cell Project.) AND I believe it's the grassroots that will lead us out of the desert.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 05:54 PM
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5. My local party (in Sensenbrenner's district) wants to be an activist force
in our area. They're working on upping their visibility. I think they might be doing better than the Milwaukee Dems, which is weird.

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ray of light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 11:24 PM
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15. Good for your group and you for being so determined.
I've noticed your posts are always so effective.
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 05:53 PM
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2. You make the whole party stronger
when you give those Dems in Red States something to fight for.
You also make the pubs feel weaker everywhere.
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ironman202 Donating Member (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 05:53 PM
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3. run conservative-ish dems....yes absolutely
waste of time, for example, for me to run in some texas district. They're as likely to shoot me as they are to vote for me... but the Sam Nunn's of the world have a good shot.
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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 05:53 PM
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4. We cannot become a regional party
Besides that, I don't want my state given up on. If the libertarians can run someone in nearly every race, there is no reason we can't run someone in every race.
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OhioBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 05:55 PM
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6. Hackett was an exception
he was a GREAT candidate in a special election for an open seat against a weak R in Ohio which has been hammered in Repug scandals. He had a definite chance. It comes down to where resources are most needed, I would think that the DCCC or other such organizations should focus on more "purple" districts than those that go with 50 points to an Repug incumbant. That being said, no race should be uncontested. We should find candidates to run and start a debate. Just MHO -
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kevsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 06:03 PM
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7. As you suggest, I think that it is possible to run everywhere
and still strike a balance. Put the heaviest resources into the races with the closer margins, i.e., the purple districts. There actually are a surprising number of counties that were within 10 points for Kerry.

But still run grassroots campaigns (people and labor intensive door to door and special event stuff) in all the rest to raise the buzz and the awareness levels, and strengthen the party.

In football, it's called "stretching the field," and it works if you have the personnel. The only way we'll ever be able to fully implement Dean's vision of rebuilding the party is with a massive grassroots element.
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neuvocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 06:05 PM
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8. Back in the '02 elections
republicans took up 41 uncontested seats nationwide. The less seats the dems have, the less resources in general.
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 06:09 PM
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9. YES!
Why give them a freebie? HELL yes.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 06:13 PM
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10. Make them work for it. I'm in a deadly red area (rest of the state
is blue or purple) and we rarely see challenges to Republican offices.

Bad, bad, bad, idea. There should be a Dem box on every single ballot, from dog-catcher to President and all points between.
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PeachyDem88 Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 06:31 PM
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11. Of course...
Democrats can win everywhere. They should run everywhere.

We control state legislatures and governors' mansions in some pretty conservative states.

Red State Dems, no matter how conservative, run with the (D) next to their names. They take on the "liability" of being associated with the national party, and they win.

'04 was the high water mark of the modern Republican Party, and the Neo-Con movement in general. Democrats will start winning in Alaska and Utah, if the Republicans keep it up.

2006 is going to be sweet.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 06:31 PM
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12. Yes, or
campaign independents if they have a better chance of beating the incumbent.
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 06:33 PM
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13. We have a big name running against the #2 Republican in the
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bribri16 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 06:47 PM
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14. Yes, but i would run them as repugs or Independents. n/t
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