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Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 10:12 PM
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Re: the Chicago/Washington Grand Juries that Fitz has...
.. now, don't shoot me, I was just pondering this.

We know Fitz has Grand Jury(s?) operating in DC, obstinately for the Plame affair.

We know Fitz has Grand Jury(s?) operating in Chicago also, as the story today about him starting to dig into Daley.

Now... just for a minute, open the minds...

The story that appeared on the 'site that will not be named' implied that Fitz has indictments(or whatever) from the Grand Jury in Chicago, and folks (probably correctly, but...) yelled 'bullshit, He's in DC'.

He is in Chicago also.

What if, WHAT IF! (and I've always believed those two words are some of the most powerful in the world), that in order to 'keep a low profile' for what could be some of the most devastating indictments in the history of this country....

... Fitz is using the Chicago Grand Jury for that purpose as a (er.. bad term, but whatever) "shadow Grand Jury".

The one in DC is doing the majority of the Plame investigation, but material is being passed to the Chicago Grand Jury and they are conducting their own investigation (re: the 'runaway jury' concept).

I ain't saying it's true...

I ain't even saying it's got a chance of being true...

But if Fitz is the aggressive investigator and prosecutor people say it is...

.. could it be possible???
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 10:15 PM
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1. No. Forget it.
No one in Nigeria is willing to split $25 million with you, either.
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Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 10:18 PM
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4. What is your problem? What kinda smart-remark is that?
Ghod forbid people try to think and consider possibilities....
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 10:23 PM
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6. This is total bullshit, and people keep posting on it!
It's a lie. Forget it!

You should have known the FIRST time you saw it. You're just propogating it.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 10:16 PM
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2. Techtonic Plates
I just keep hearing Josh Marshall saying Techtonic Plates
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 10:16 PM
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3. No. It's impossible.
It just isn't possible that a GJ in Chicago is investigating when the GJ is impaneled in DC and hearing witnesses there.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 10:20 PM
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5. Hate to break it to you, but there is no such thing as the Easter Bunny.
The Chicago grand jury is a very specific investigation having to with very specific Illinois politicos and has NOTHING to do with the Plame case.

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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 10:24 PM
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7. No reason to think the Chicago indictments concern the Bush cabal
Edited on Mon Aug-08-05 10:27 PM by JDPriestly
Chicago is the other prong of the Fitzgerald attack on corruption. I doubt that it concerns Bush, et al.
Are the problems in Chicago with Democrats?

By Andy Shaw
August 8, 2005 — US Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald got a vote of confidence from his boss Monday. There had been speculation Fitzgerald's aggressive investigations in Chicago and Washington might have angered important people and that Fitzgerald might not get reappointed.

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/news/080805_ns_fitzgerald.html

. . . .

Embattled Chicago mayor still thinking big
By Jeremy Grant
Published: August 7 2005 19:47 | Last updated: August 7 2005 19:47

. . . .
Yet City Hall is in turmoil. Mr Daley's administration is reeling from a damaging federal corruption probe led by US federal attorney Patrick Fitzgerald - the same lawyer investigating whether White House officials illegally leaked the name of a covert CIA agent, Valerie Plame.

Mr Fitzgerald has filed criminal complaints against two city officials in Chicago, alleging "pervasive fraud" at City Hall and charging them with using political patronage to award jobs and faking tests for employees.
. . . .

The charges include evidence that the city hired "goofballs" who "should not have been awarded positions". In one case, a candidate for a city job was "a drunk".
. . . .

Mr Daley has not been accused of any wrongdoing. Yet many wonder how a mayor as powerful as Mr Daley could not have some inkling that patronage and corruption was as widespread as Mr Fitzgerald's charges indicate.
http://news.ft.com/cms/s/9745d6de-076c-11da-a742-00000e2511c8.html
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 10:44 PM
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8. Doesn't seem like many want to respond seriously... so I'll try...
I'm no lawyer, but it would seem that the respective jurisdictions of the respective courts (and thus grand juries) would rule out your theory...:shrug: But, if we assume that is not the case, I would think that travel of all these witnesses (which appear to be pretty substantial by now) from DC to Chicago would be hard to keep secret...

That's my take, at least...
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