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HardWorkingDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 11:27 PM
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Democrat Problem....
Why is that so many times Democrats seem to be taken by surprise at the new lows the Republican Party will stoop to?

Because of my low post numbers, people have accused me of being a fake, but I sincerely believe that for us to win this fight, and it is a fight, we must examine our weaknesses and get rid of them. We have to get over the suprise of the Rethuglicans kicking us in the groin.

For example, before the 2004 election, a friend of mine would not believe that the Repugs would take Kerry and his military experience head on and that they would run from it. I told her that Rethugs do not care. That they will go after anything and they did.

We have got to learn how to tell a compelling story that captures the attention of the voter. We've got to sink our teeth in and refuse to let go. I mean, look at the Gannon/Guckert story and even Rovegate. They have fallen off the radar (though Rovegate is destined to return, hopefully with indictments).

One last example...recall during the Cheney/Edwards debate when Cheney said he never had met Edwards before. Edwards had to remember when they had met and he should have blatantly called Cheney a "liar". But Dems are too polite and meek to do such a thing on a nationwide basis, when in contrast, Rethuglicans have no problem calling Dems liars, treasonous and giving aid to the enemy.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 11:34 PM
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1. We're catching on. Be persistent but patient please.
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VADem11 Donating Member (783 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 11:35 PM
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2. It's Democratic
not Democrat problem. Democrat party or democrat candidate is what the rethuglicans say. I do agree that we are too nice to the rethuglicans sometimes.
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safi0 Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 11:37 PM
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3. As for the Edwards/Cheney
Thing, I think the reason why Edwards didn't call him out on it, is because I don't think he remembered the 2-3 times they'd met.
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SamBass Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 12:04 AM
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5. Oh, c'mon, now!
I guarantee you, if I met ChenLink just once, I would never forget it. OK, so I'm just s civie. But there's no way I can believe Edwards didn't remember meetin' the MasterOfDoom. I'd guess he was bent on focusin' on the debate, figurin' the press would out ChainLink the next day. And they did. Kinda. Well, I'm sure it made the Daily Show. And not much of anything came of it.

I agree, Dems need to learn to play the rethug game. It's mean and nasty, and I really get exasperated with the ol' " . . . then we'll sink to their level . . ." crap. Hello? There's some pie in the sky idea that Dems have never played a dirty game. Wrong.

I don't think it's as much about not playin' the rethug game, as it is about how clueless and unfocused the party seems to have been for way too long.

Make no mistake, here. I'm a Texas Yellow Dog and proud of it. I just wish my party would grow some balls.

Whoa! Sorry. Slid way off topic.

Or did I? I'm new around here, so I'd appreciate any slack you can cut.
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safi0 Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 12:11 AM
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6. Obviously for us
Its completely different being that we aren't politicians and things like that. Edwards was focusing on other things and it may have simply slipped his mind the 2-3 times him and Cheney had met
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terrible beauty Donating Member (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 12:31 AM
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8. Setup
Cheney was trying to set up Edwards.If he had insisted they met
Cheney's comeback would have been .."well it was must not have been very memorable".
Personally I like the Dean/Hackett approach put these f@$%$#^ on the defensive.
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 12:00 AM
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4. Welp...
I don't think you're a phoney.. I just think that maybe once in a blue, blue moon - you could consider a post title that's not such a downer? :shrug:

I mean.. even this post.. "Democrat Problem"

Howzabout once in a while you try a title with an upbeat sound to it? ..Or.. if you have to post something as dismal as the title you created for this post, consider changing it so it doesn't sound so.....

what's the word I'm thinking... :think: ..crappy! :evilgrin:

That's all.. I seriously don't think you're a phoney. I've just never seen an upbeat post from you.. (not yet anyhow ;) .. I'm sure there's one coming sooner or later!)

Big hug to HardworkingDem ~~ :grouphug:

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HardWorkingDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 01:36 AM
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9. Okay....here's a promising one..
I think Howard Dean is the best thing to happen to the Dems in a long, long time.

This man is a true fighter and I think the rest of the Dems could learn a great deal from him. Now, what is truly great about Dean is while he is no far lefty (like me) even the Nation magazine loves the guy. Hell, even In These Times hasn't attacked Dean and why is that?!? Because the guy is tough as nails and shows us Dems where we need to be.

Thanks for the hug....
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 12:22 AM
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7. I agree!
I have been saying this since the 80's when Reagan commited Treason by declaring war on Americans. Nobody wanted to take that seriously and now look at where that has gotten us. When our Forefathers gave up the responsibility to create a more perfect union. I don't think joining the Republicans in acts of treason is what they had in mind.

I also agree with Bill Marr. The democratic leaders are more afraid of what the republicans will say about them if they are opposed. Than they are afraid of what the Repiblicans will do to America or Americans if they are unopposed. As a party the sooner we can admit and change this. The better off we will be in the long run. Other wise we might as well just start saying, Iraq really did have WMD's. We saw them! :puke:
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