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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 07:10 AM
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Jeff Greenfield,on CNN, just compared WWII to Iraq
Edited on Fri Aug-12-05 07:11 AM by Feeney2
He said Cindy Sheehan can't change the opinion of the war because she lost a child and look how many mothers lost sons and daughters in WWII. That can't be a reason to change opinions on the line of lost sons. Sorry Jeff. WWII ain't Iraq. What a stretch to make a point. Another slam against Ms. Sheehan and not against Bush policy.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 07:12 AM
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1. I heard that. It was such a disingenuous analysis...
...that it makes you wonder just exactly who was under Jeff's desk, while he was speaking.
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 07:17 AM
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6. What is with his idea that mother's can't speak for their sons?
He looks these days like he is just going through the motions. He used to have a little fire under him when he gave reports.
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GCP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 07:12 AM
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2. Germany and Japan declared war on the US
When did Iraq?
And where are the WMDs?
And where's the uranium?
Jeff Greenfield should shut his big fat yap.
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 07:13 AM
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3. LOL,why not compare it to Vietnam Jeff??
Why the compairison to WWII?
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 07:14 AM
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4. He's a huge whore for the repukes.
and has been for as long I can remember.
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libhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 07:17 AM
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5. W.W. 2
Was a fight for survival - Iraq is unnecessary aggression. End of Story -
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 07:20 AM
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8. I was going to ask why are the neo cons trying to link it to ww2
Thanks for the clarification. THere trying to desperately justify thier actions.
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libhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 07:34 AM
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16. Because they are
Edited on Fri Aug-12-05 07:36 AM by libhill
arrogant ass hats who assume, maybe correctly, that the American people are simple minded morons who believe any thing we are told. But there's a hell of a lot of difference between the Axis war machine of World War Two, and the third or fourth rate power that Iraq is / was. Not to mention the fact that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. Nothing like using an aircraft carrier to knock over a peanut stand. I'm impressed.
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 07:19 AM
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7. Wait, it is like WWII--we're occupying a country like the Nazi's did...
Edited on Fri Aug-12-05 07:20 AM by OneTwentyoNine
Way to go Jeff--SPOT ON!!
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 07:37 AM
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17. Think of our Iraqi Blunder
As similar to Italy's humiliating mismanaged invasion of ethiopia. Our pompous imperialists have ruined their Big Plans in a bungled occupation of a backwards nation.

Rather than sweeping the planet clean of 'rougue states' and bullying all adversaries, current and future into client-state submission to the Great Hegemon, we have exposed our weaknesses for all to see, revealed out unilateralist plans, created new global alliances to thwart our efforts at world domination, and most unfortunately, set the stage for global conflict, rather than global cooperation, as we enter the peak oil crisis.

Bush is not Hitler. Bush is Mussolini.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 07:21 AM
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9. I hear that every day from repukes on TV
and on the radio. Of course that isn't the right comparison Vietnam is but ya won't hear those bushbots** say it!
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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 07:26 AM
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10. Whenever anyone makes that comparison...
..i respond with "O.K. when is the draft coming? Why aren't people siging up in droves? When do we get asked to start rationing and conserving essential goods and services? When are we going to raise taxes? all those things happened in WW2 so let's get to it!"
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 07:27 AM
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11. Well if saddamn had not attacked...
Poland, then jeff could not make the comparison.
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snowbird42 Donating Member (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 07:28 AM
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12. I turned it off
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 07:28 AM
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13. ww2=iraq?
Edited on Fri Aug-12-05 07:28 AM by madrchsod
he really is fuck`n stupid talking asshole.
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NoFederales Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 07:30 AM
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14. Greenfield went over to the "dark side" early in his career. Forget him.
NoFederales
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DemNoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 07:31 AM
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15. Poor Jeff
He is not really right wing, but he has to play one on TV in order to keep his cable TV gig.

Gotta earn a living ya know.
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GoBlue Donating Member (930 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 07:37 AM
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18. Jeff is correct...
except that Cindy is more comparable to the mother of misled German soldier who was killed in WWII. And by Jeff's logic about as likely to succeed.
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 07:52 AM
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19. interesting take on it.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 07:58 AM
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21. Right. Every war has dead mothers asking, and for some wars,
the answer is deeply disappointing.

Greenfield punted the issue of what the answer is for the Iraq war. He seems to think the answer doesns't matter. In my mind, just having the questoin out there leads to an unsatisfactory answer, as Bush gave in his field conference yesterday.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 07:56 AM
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20. Cindy symbolizes the QUESTION OF WHETHER IT IS WORTH IT
Greenfield simply assumed that having the question out there, unanswered, isn't a problem. It is, because this ISN'T WWII.

If cindy were asking, please justify WWII to me, this would be a different issue.
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:09 AM
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22. For that
He can't eat at Fresco by Scotto anymore.
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bribri16 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:10 AM
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23. We were actually fighting AGAINST evil in WWII. In Iraq we ARE
the evil. No comparison.
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bribri16 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:11 AM
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24. Send Jeff a boatload of e-mail to explain the difference. n/t
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