Boots on the Ground: The Third Way is going for National Security.

[madfloridian]

Hey, I want to be very secure, but at this point boots on the ground are not gonna do it for us..they are not the solution.
I took the page that cosmicdot found, which is really the Third Way, but it has a cute little dash in it. Heck, we only thought this DLC bunch was going away.

http://www.third-way.com /

There is no year on this page, but it does look like 2005. They are not going to give up any power to the "people" of the party.

Boots on the ground...the National Security Democrats featuring Hillary and Joe Lieberman.

This has a lot of their goals, and it verifies what I thought...they are using The New Republic for their security message. Beinart and all, you know. I asked TNR to end my membership after Beinart and others starting sounding so militant..they refunded my money, but they will NOT take me off the list.
http://www.third-way.com/products/national_security.htm

Conferences: Third Way is teaming with other organizations to host semi-annual retreats that will engage Senators, senior progressive officials, and experts on security affairs on issues that go to the heart of the progressive problem on national security. The first such retreat, co-hosted by The New Republic, will take place in September at the Aspen Institute’s Wye River Plantation. The insights and arguments elicited at that retreat will play a major role in the production of the first Third Way blueprint on national security.

I also suspect that Simon Rosenberg is a part of this as well. Here is something I found at his NDN blog. I can't figure his role yet.
http://www.ndnblog.org/archives/cat_national_security.html

And here is their project page, and please note the word "products", as in something you have to package and sell:

http://www.third-way.com/products/

The National Security Project (Their #1 priority)

Rebuilding progressive credibility on national security by producing policy and communications blueprints, hosting issue briefings, conducting strategy retreats and drafting legislation.

REPORT: Boots On The Ground: Increasing The Size of the Army To Meet the Missions of the 21st Century

The Middle Class Project

Seeking a better understanding of why progressives have lost middle class support, designing new themes and policy ideas to advance a progressive economic agenda, and turning those ideas into messaging and legislation. Hell, I can tell them why the middle class is not happy.

REPORT: Unrequited Love: Middle Class Voters Reject Democrats at the Ballot Box

The Culture Project

Finding effective ways for progressives to handle hot-button issues like abortion, gay marriage, and guns, as well as methods with which to put the right on the defensive.

ISSUE BRIEF: Who Is Winning The Abortion Grays?

REPORT: The Porn Standard: Children and Pornography on the Internet -
The New South Project

Partnering with southern elected officials and grassroots leaders on a research and education program aimed at strengthening support for progressive ideas in the South.


The Conservative Re-Branding Project

Identifying weaknesses in the conservative brand and developing messaging and narratives that undermine their claim to represent the mainstream.


And I noticed their map was even redder than the reddest map used by the Republicans. I don't think of us that way at all.

The Need for the Third Way
http://www.third-way.com/need/

A whole bunch of talking points that sound good and signify very little.

And their map.

[Gyre]

1. Yeah, Hill and JoeMentum,

Quite a convincing national security conscious ticket. Only, why does anybody need Hillary when they can have a real republican?

Gyre

[AntiCoup2K4]

2. Funny how a lot of those "red" areas turned red in recent years....

...while a certain faction deternined that they and they alone had the (extreme)right to decide our platform and pick our candidates.

[madfloridian]

7. And they refuse to admit that the losses occurred under their watch.

It is like the definition of insanity...doing the same thing over and over and getting the same results.

They fail to see the irony of the redness they present...it happened because of them.

[wli]

3. DLC poised to take over where the neocons left off?

Time to run before the Homeland Offense Gestapo incinerates me in a death camp for Democrats.

[madfloridian]

4. Here you go, they're at it...Boston Globe article.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2005/08/14/democrats_embrace_tough_military_stance/

Democrats embrace tough military stance
Sharpen message on foreign policy
By Rick Klein, Globe Staff | August 14, 2005

WASHINGTON -- "After months of internal debate and closed-door discussions, Democrats have begun to develop a more aggressive foreign policy that focuses heavily on threats they say are being neglected by the Bush administration, while avoiding taking a contentious stance on Iraq.

''Having the strongest military in the world is the first step, but we also have to have a strong commitment to using our military in smart ways that further peace, stability, and security around the world," Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton, Democrat of New York, said at the Democratic Leadership Council in Columbus, Ohio, last month.

The approach involves a closer embrace of the armed forces than many Democrats and even Republicans have been comfortable with in recent years. Clinton has called for adding 80,000 troops to the armed services, at a time when Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld has called for a streamlined force with greater emphasis on technology.

Senator Evan Bayh, Democrat of Indiana, hit the presidential proving ground of Iowa early this month to warn that ''people don't think we have the backbone" to deploy the military, and said Democrats must overcome that perception to be successful in future elections.

Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr. of Delaware, the ranking Democrat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, has laid out a doctrine of rebuilding alliances while making clear that ''force will be used -- without asking anyone's permission -- when circumstances warrant"

[madfloridian]

5. Roemer again...we lost on security not abortion and values.

Then why the heck are you working to do away with 95% of abortions? Why are you working with a group that refused to support John Kerry.

"Tim Roemer, a former Democratic congressman from Indiana, noted that Kerry lost 97 of the 100 fastest-growing counties in the nation. Those areas are filled with young suburban families who want a president who will make them feel safe after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

''We didn't lose those 97 counties on cultural issues or on abortion," said Roemer, a member of the 9/11 Commission who ran for party chairman this year on a national-security platform. ''We primarily lost those because we did not have a compelling national-security message."

Then leave our women's rights alone!!!!!

[Pithy Cherub]

6. The "Third Way" corporate driver is trapped in the cul de sac &

has a malfunctioning VOTER GPS sysytem.:eyes:

[Warren Stupidity]

8. I have only one question for these asshats.

Does Cindy Sheehan have a place in your party?





'cause I'm standing with Cindy. And from where we are standing your party appears to have as little care for us as the rest of the neocon crowd.

[Q]

9. The Third Way Leadership...

...looks like a bunch of political hacks, fund-raisers and corporate lobbyists. Yet another group to advise Democrats on how to 'win' without being beholden to the traditional base of Blacks, Workers and Women. I wish them luck in triangulating their Chosen Candidates way into office.

Their purpose:

Marginalize, demonize and neutralize the 'liberal agenda' that puts people first.

Put corporate-friendly, pro-war candidates in as many seats as possible and make sure they work with the GOP to replace social with corporate welfare.

Selling out people so that corporations may thrive will become the norm in the Democratic party.

[madfloridian]

10. The WP article I posted last night said they would make a move.

And they have.