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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 10:31 AM
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Gary Hart: "Remember her name. It is Cindy Sheehan."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/theblog/archive/gary-hart/a-voice-crying-in-the-wil_5482.html

If democracy only works when there is open discussion of opposing ideas and policies, and if the opposition party, in this case the Democrats, has hand-cuffed, blind-folded, gagged, and hog-tied itself to a failed invasion and occupation in the Middle East, where will the expanding majority of Americans look for a representative, a spokesperson, a voice for their anger, frustration, and distrust at being misled?

The circumstances suggest it should be a Senate or House Democratic leader, a recognized authority on foreign policy constantly seen on the Sunday talk shows, certainly one of the many “leaders” lining up to seek the Democratic Party’s nomination for president in 2008. Strangely, no one in any of those categories comes to mind. Their voices are silent. Thus, both they and the party they claim or presume to represent look dumbstruck, awkward, pitiful, and timid. Where the single greatest issue of the day, and one of the most potent issues of our time, is concerned, there is no courageous opposition.

<>But wait. There is someone to hold the emperor to account. There is someone willing to look ridiculous, to be mocked and made a fool of, to challenge the conventional wisdom of the court. She, unfortunately, is not a Senator. She is not a party leader. She is not in the regular establishment Rolodex of the Sunday talk producers. Yet, she holds the highest office available in a republic, that of citizen.

And to the embarrassment of both Republican and Democratic establishments, she takes that office more seriously than they—the silent “leaders”—do theirs. When the last Marine leaves Iraq, dead or alive, she can claim more credit than them all. Because of the courage of one brave woman, she quite possible will have had more to do with finally bringing this great nation back to its senses... and to its principles.

Remember her name. It is Cindy Sheehan.

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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 10:34 AM
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1. Most excellent!
Cindy will go down in history as a GREAT citizen.
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 10:38 AM
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2. Just how I feel
Cindy speaks for us, for the real America, while the dem 'leadership 'remains silent and afraid.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 10:39 AM
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3. good article
Hart has become an excellent elder statesmen with his voice on anti-terrorism measures (Hart-Rudman report still collecting dust in Cheney's office??)

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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 10:39 AM
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4. We need to hear more from Gary Hart.
A lot more.
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 10:45 AM
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5. Screw his old scandals...
Edited on Sun Aug-14-05 10:46 AM by HawkeyeX
Donna Rice has since then became a fundie...

I want him running against Mallard in 2008. Or even take the governorship for 2006. It's his choice. He's still very well-respected and well-liked in Colorado.

Hawkeye-X
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StudentOfDarrow Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 10:49 AM
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6. Wonderful.
The man is a genius.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 10:53 AM
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7. There ARE Democrats who have carried our Banner.
They just don't have the Corporate Connections to get on the Pro-War Anti-Labor CorpoMedia Talk Shows.
You can find the Opposition Party here:

http://www.pdamerica.org/
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 11:08 AM
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8. Any of them leaders lining up to seek the Dem nomination for prez in '08?
As former Senator Gary Hart noted above in his piece for the Huffington blog.

Answer: None. Case in point, Senator Joe Biden, Dem war hawk, repudiated Cindy Sheehan today in so many words on "Meet the Press" when he said he did not agree with what she was doing in Crawford.
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 11:14 AM
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9. Wanted: Anit-war Dem leaders NOW
Wonder how long I'll be waiting... :eyes:
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 11:20 AM
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12. Wow, four minutes. That was long wasn't it?
Four minutes between your post above and my post citing three anti-war Dems below.

NGU.


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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 12:55 PM
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20. I'm all for Boxer, Conyers, and Fiengold
but I don't see any big push by them to get to the front of the Dem line. :shrug:
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 04:32 PM
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23. Maxine Waters is in Crawford as I type.
Edited on Sun Aug-14-05 04:32 PM by rucky
there has been plenty of antiwar dem leadership, they just don't get any press.
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 08:10 PM
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27. Then we need some real alternative media to start covering these Dems
and get their names and actions out to the general public in preparation for 2008. I'd bet most people have no idea who Maxine Waters is.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 10:10 PM
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32. Maxine is a Congressional Representative, not a Senator.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 11:18 AM
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11. There's a Draft Feingold movement underway... and I'd like to see...
...a Conyers/Boxer 2008 ticket.

It's up to us. We have the power.

NGU.


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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 11:46 AM
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14. I agree on Biden, and you WON'T find "hair plugs" Joe
at Progressive Democrats of America.

The best known is Dennis Kucinich, but he won't be getting any Big Air time from the CorpoMedia because he has pledged to break up the Media cartel.
It is too early to be committing to a particular candidate. There is much talent in the Democratic Wing of the Party, but you won't be seeing them on Meet the Press. We can't let the CorpoMedia choose the Democratic Nominee for 2008 again (they have already chosen Hillary). It is up to us to educate ourselves and pass that knowledge on to the rest of the Democratic Party.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 09:52 PM
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31. Biden's son should be in Iraq
He's in his thirties I think. He'd be the perfect age.

I really am starting to dislike that smug son of a bitch!

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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 11:18 AM
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10. A Pilgrimage to Crawford
Who will write that story?

Maxine Waters is making the pilgrimage today. Who will follow her? Sens. Kennedy, Kerry, and Boxer have voiced support, but will they also make the pilgrimage to honor Ms. Sheehan's bravery?

The Iraq war is the most important issue on the table. It is everything to this administration and it is going extraordinarily badly. The extent to which our representatives ignore Cindy Sheehan is the extent to which they are ignoring their responsibilities.

They all need to make the pilgrimage and listen to what she has to say. Those hundreds of cars on Prairie Chapel Road should contain our Senators and Congressmen.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 11:42 AM
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13. Why don't you ask them? Last time I looked in the mirror...
...I wasn't Sens. Kennedy, Kerry, or Boxer.

:rofl:

NGU.


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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 11:55 AM
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15. great piece
Cindy Sheehan and all of those at Camp Casey should be proud.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 11:55 AM
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16. Gary Hart has very much stated why I am so angry at
the Dem party. NOT EFFIN' ONE of the legislators have done or said ANYTHING since the beginning of this debacle except defer to * and his war mongers. Watch them be lead by their noses into Iran and then bait Korea and Syria.

Something needs to turn around with this party and SOON.

When it comes to Iran, who will be the first Dem legislator to sign away war powers to * again? Anyone care to take bets?

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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 12:02 PM
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17. Not one? I cited three in post #11.
Nice try.

NGU.


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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 12:21 PM
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18. I didn't read your post.
Edited on Sun Aug-14-05 12:29 PM by Skidmore
I was responding to Hart's article. Thus far I've seen Biden xtoo many and Nelson--not anyone else. Hardly opposition. And what the heck do you mean with "nice try". Because I'm a little disgusted with Dems, does that imply that I'm not one?
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 04:32 PM
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22. So because you haven't SEEN the others on your corporate box...
..."NOT EFFIN' ONE of the legislators have done or said ANYTHING since the beginning of this debacle except defer to * and his war mongers??"

And no, "a little disgust" with Dems doesn't imply that you're not one. Sentences like the one above, even though patently false, do.

NGU.


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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 03:41 AM
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34. Please clarify...
What is my "corporate box"? I wasn't aware I had one.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 09:08 PM
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29. My exact sentiments, too, Skidmore
I even posted similar frustrations a couple days ago about this very subject with this thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4331935
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meg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 12:37 PM
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19. great post! (eom)
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 02:26 PM
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21. .
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 04:42 PM
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24. the Dems are all terrified of getting Wellstoned n/t
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 06:07 PM
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25. Senator Sheehan. Sounds Pretty Good to Me!
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 06:12 PM
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26. Matter-of-Fact: Hackett Should Re-Run For Office! 48+% Not Bad
In an historically "red" district. What's that tell everyone... Matter-of-fact, it's time for a change. Can't think of better people to vote in to office to clean-up, bring on the changes of getting rid of so much Corporate power then those that served and lost.

Who better to represent the 98% of us all!

Excellent Post!

P.S. t r u t h o u t | One Mother's Stand
By Scott Galindez Sunday 14 August 200512:55 PM

Maxine Waters has arrived at Camp Casey. She brought a basket of fruit to present to Cindy along with water and food for the camp. Congresswoman Waters is now meeting with the Gold Star Families, Iraq Veterans Against the War and Military Families Speak Out. After her meeting Ms. Waters plans to tour Camp Casey.

http://www.truthout.org/cindy.shtml
http://www.angelfire.com/de3/4osad/osad.html
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 08:43 PM
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28. We all have to be Sheenans, or it's not America.
Not the faux phoney-reaction of republicans. That is not dissent. It is just the opposite. America was born of this rebellion for the betterment of a society. From the bottom up, is how it works. And fails.

It is our duty.
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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 09:29 PM
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30. Outstanding!
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 11:05 PM
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33. I'll be joining Cindy in Washington!!
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