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FormerRepublican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 02:12 PM
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What nastiness will BushCo pull as they attempt to save themselves...
...from the political death spiral growing around them? We have the Plame leak. We have Cindy Sheehan. We have investigations of various Republican operatives. We have dropping poll numbers. We have the Iraq crisis. We have North Korea and Iran thumbing their nose at BushCo threats. We have an economy in the crapper and gas prices going through the ceiling...

BushCo is in trouble. What nastiness do you think they might pull in coming weeks and months to distract us from reality?

More terror attacks? Invade a new country? Targeted assassination of prosecutors?

Lord knows none of those clowns will ever willingly resign, so they must have some other plot up their sleeve to stave off the populace...
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 02:17 PM
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1. hey, let's run a practice nuke exercise, and blow one up.
blame osama. Saddam. The french. The Russians and the north Koreans.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 02:18 PM
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2. Had to say how bad things are going to get. They aren't
very good now. The gas prices are probably going to put an end to all this rw folly, but it will take time. The only thing that they have in their tool kit is to start wars as a distraction, but they haven't been able to conclude the two they are currently fighting.

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H5N1 Donating Member (777 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 02:21 PM
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3. More War! (And this time, no more Mr. Nice Guy!)
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 02:22 PM
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4. September 30th: Bush Tax Panel will propose "fair and simple" tax reform
Edited on Sun Aug-14-05 02:23 PM by Bush_Eats_Beef
...and so far, Bush (as well as Dennis Hastert and Tom DeLay) favors John Linder's "National Sales Tax" proposal, also being referred to as the "Fair Tax."

He showed interest during the 2004 election, DENIED interest when John Kerry exposed the reality of the proposal, and IMMEDIATELY started discussing it when he was "re-elected."

http://www.nrf.com/content/default.asp?folder=press/release2005&file=NRST-comments.htm&bhfv=2&bhqs=1

Retailers File Comments Urging Rejection of Consumption Tax

WASHINGTON, D.C., June 13, 2005 - The National Retail Federation today announced that it has filed comments with the President's Advisory Panel on Federal Tax Reform urging the panel to reject economically risky proposals to replace the nation's income tax system with a consumption tax or to add a new consumption tax on top of existing taxes.

"The United States should not experiment with a brand new tax system that will put our economic future at risk," NRF said. "It is better to engage in substantial reforms of the income tax that are designed to eliminate some of the major complications in the current Internal Revenue Code and stimulate economic growth without causing major economic dislocation."

NRF's remarks came in response to proposals for tax reform that were presented to the Advisory Panel during a series of hearings this spring. The panel asked for public comments on the proposals last month.

NRF on Friday submitted a detailed statement outlining the dangers of various consumption tax proposals. The statement addressed the National Retail Sales Tax proposed by Representative John Linder, R-Va., plans for a Value Added Tax similar to those used in Europe, and other consumption tax proposals.

The NRF statement cited a study commissioned by NRF in 2000 that found that a national sales tax would bring a three-year decline in the economy, a four-year decline in employment and an eight-year decline in consumer spending. The study showed that similar results could be expected if other types of consumption taxes were enacted to replace the current system.

NRF argued that consumption taxes are inherently regressive because low-income families spend virtually their entire incomes while wealthier families have larger percentages of unspent income that would go untaxed.

NRF particularly urged the Advisory Panel to reject proposals to maintain the current tax system while adding a VAT or other new tax that would be used to pay for programs such as Social Security or health care. Doing so would amount to a tax increase rather than tax reform and would provide lawmakers with "a money machine" to finance increases in government spending, NRF said.
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unrepuke Donating Member (763 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 02:24 PM
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5. Financial Disaster. From an email I got yesterday
can't find the article right now but it claims Bush has said "If I have to answer any indictments I will cause a financial disaster."

??Huh?? What, another one? He's already doing every possible thing in his power to destroy us...how can it get any worse?

"Hey, ya better leave me alone while I'm wrecking your life, or I'll R E A L L Y make it bad for you."
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 02:29 PM
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7. Don't know of the validity of that claim, but the seeds of a financial
disaster have already been sown and more seeds are planted every day.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 02:28 PM
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6. Spread the rumor that they might invade Iran ?
That would definitely get everyone's attention. Fortunately for us and Iran, we don't have enough troops to invade Costa Rica, let alone Iran.
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1956 Donating Member (314 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 02:42 PM
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8. Just watch em start the draft again!
It could happen.
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 07:35 PM
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9. nuclear MIHOP and martial law, of course n/t
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Chicago1 Donating Member (560 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 08:58 PM
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10. Gen Byrnes TERMINATION has been linked w/ POSSIBLE NUCLEAR ATTACK
EVERYONE EVERYONE has to get on the phone and email politicians and reporters. This story STINKS TO HIGH HELL. If he knows of a pending attack, HOPEFULLY HE TOLD THE RIGHT PEOPLE SO IT CAN BE FOILED. Below are posts and URL's for posts on General Byrnes and the story of his termination and what he might know.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4340706

blm (1000+ posts) Sat Aug-13-05 04:32 PM
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CONFIRMED: There IS more to Gen. Byrnes firing and reporters are working
Edited on Sat Aug-13-05 04:33 PM by blm

to uncover the real story.

I just got off the phone with someone who confirmed that several reporters KNOW the official story for the firing is untrue.

I can only share this bit of an email from a reporter who is commenting on the Gen. Kennedy piece re Gen. Byrnes:

"..... we know there's more to the story than reporters
have been able to get so far. This (Kennedy's piece) paints a different sort of picture of
him than just the official complaint..."


We MUST help them - time is of the essence.

Keep an eye out for ANYTHING we can send to the reporters working on this story.

BTW...consider yourselves thanked for alerting them to the story yesterday.



marekjed (354 posts) Sat Aug-13-05 04:56 PM
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17. The scariest part of it
Is that Byrnes was at Fort Monroe, which is where "Sudden Response," the nuclear exercises, will be happening this month:

http://www.northcom.mil/index.cfm?fuseaction=news.shows...

Note the press release says these drills have been moved to Fort Monroe this year - they're normally done elsewhere:




FORT MONROE, Va. -- Here’s the scenario…A seafaring vessel transporting a 10-kiloton nuclear warhead makes its way into a port off the coast of Charleston, S.C. Terrorists aboard the ship attempt to smuggle the warhead off the ship to detonate it. Is this really a possibility?

Joint Task Force Civil Support (JTF-CS) here is planning its next exercise on the premise that this crisis is indeed plausible.

Sudden Response 05 will take place this August on Fort Monroe and will be carried out as an internal command post exercise. The exercise is intended to train the JTF-CS staff to plan and execute Consequence Management operations in support of Federal Emergency Management Agency Region IV’s response to a nuclear detonation.

Some of this year’s objectives for SR05 are to refine nuclear incident Concept of Operations, produce a CM Operation Order, refine command post set-up procedures and maintain situational awareness of multiple CM incidents.

The Sudden Response exercise has been held at Quantico, Va., in the past, but has been moved to Fort Monroe to maximize command post training time. The senior leadership felt that it was more important to accomplish training instead of losing up to a day and a half in travel time, said Paul Deflueri, J7 Lead Exercise Planner. “This will allow us to still meet our training objectives,” he said.

Some external participants may work with JTF-CS during the exercise.

(snip)


Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Sat Aug-13-05 09:12 PM
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66. OH. MY. GOD. That's GOT to be it - they are arranging for their coverup
Edited on Sat Aug-13-05 09:34 PM by Nothing Without Hope

BEFORE they stage their nuclear 9/11 to justify nuclear attack of Iran.

According to DUer Flyarm, General ONeill fired Byrnes - and he has already covered up at least two murders under his watch. He is obviously one of the black-hearted supporters of ANYTHING GOES FOR WHAT WE WANT. There must have been a number of military people involved in the staged attacks on 9/11, and the Air Force must have been a major part of it.

They don't want any honest whistleblowers to stop their planned crime, so they're purging them to get them out of the way.



WE MUST BE VERY, VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE "EXCERCISE" SCHEDULED AUGUST 17. WE MUST GET THE WORD OUT, THE WARNING - THIS COULD BE THE NEXT DOMESTIC ATTACK LIKE 9/11, ONLY EVEN WORSE. IF THEY WANT TO USE NUCEAR BOMBS IN IRAN -AND THEY DO - IT WOULD BE A NUCLEAR ATTACK.


This would fit all the hints of what is to come, all the pieces they have set into place:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
Thread title: Three extremely important threads on Iran nukes & the Bush agenda

And of course, they would want to do it while Congress is in recess - that makes declaring martial law and attacking Iran (as per plans already made by Cheney) every so much easier. A martial coup to follow up on the electoral coup.







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