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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 10:33 PM
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More Trails Lead to Rove; Aschroft's Involvement Again Comes into Question
Edited on Tue Aug-16-05 11:09 PM by paineinthearse
God bless John Conyers, Louise Slaughter, Murray Wass & Larisa Alexandrovna!

http://www.conyersblog.us/

Blogged by JC on 08.16.05 @ 10:07 PM ET

More Trails Lead to Rove; Aschroft's Involvement Again Comes into Question
Latest on Detainee Abuse Photos

Those who read the American Prospect or the Village Voice, know that as of late Murray Waas has had the most up to date information on treasongate. Last week, in the American Prospect, Murray disclosed that Rove had met with Judith Miller shortly before Valerie Plame was outed as a CIA Agent, and that the princiipal reason Miller has not cooperated with Fitzgerald is that Scooter Libby had never given a specific privelege waiver to her ( which I of course asked him to do -- no response as of yet).

This week, in theVillage Voice,
Waas revealed that the reason Ashcroft ultimately was forced to permit the appointment of a special prosecutor was because of concerns that Rove may have misled FBI investigators regarding his role in the matter. The problem is, because of his personal and political relationships with Rove, Ashcroft should have recused himself when he first learned about Rove's involvement. He also should not have allowed himself to be privately briefed on Rove's involvement.

Because of these concerns, I plan to ask the Department's Office of Inspector General to investigate whether Ashcroft violated applicable recusal and conflict of interest rules and guidelines.

(I previously asked them to investigate the delay in the Department's investigation and the advance notice given to the White House). I hope to have more on this tomorrow.

While I am discussing treasongate, I am happy to report that more than 3500 individuals have joined with me in asking the president not to pardon Karl Rove, should he eventually be indicted. Let me also remind readers that Louise Slaughter is still gathering signatures in her effort to ask the president to give Rove a Pink Slip. Both are important and worthwhile efforts.

Finally,Rawstory
has a story on the governnment's sad efforts to prevent not only the release of detainee abuse photos, but to prevent any public scrutiny of their arguments. As I explain in the article, it is "truly Kafkaesque to envision a government which does not even permit its legal arguments to be disclosed for publlic scrutiny. This not only violates the Freedom of Information Act, it turns the Act on its head."




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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 10:49 PM
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1. may they all burn in hell.
:kick:
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 10:54 PM
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2. Ashcroft has huge problems with this !!
there appears to be evidence that even though he recused himself from the case, he continued to feed information to "people in the WH for several months" ...

his loyalty to Rove is touching, isn't it? what's that expression about lying down with pigs ??
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 12:58 AM
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4. Ass ...hat...croft humps pigs!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 03:19 AM
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8. "When you wallow with pigs, expect to get dirty"--is the expression you
are-perhaps thinking of?---Anyway--seems to be lots of piglets awallowing.
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Tesla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 07:08 AM
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11. Can you say.....
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 01:41 PM
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22. Whoa, I hadn't quite connected the dots on that one: that Ashcroft was
in a position to interfere with, confiscate and destroy evidence of, and deep-six the investigation of Paul Wellstone's plane crash, all of which seems to have occurred. I guess I just thought, sort of vaguely, that when the Bush Cartel black ops team pulls these things off, they do it with deniability for the beneficiary (as with the earlier Carnahan plane crash, in Oct. '00, also pre-election down to the wire, designed to make Ashcroft into a US Senator, but which backfired, when Missourians voted for the dead Carnahan rather than Ashcroft, and Carnahan's wife got the job). I just figured the big shots wouldn't have ashes from the burning croft...ahem, craft... right under their fingernails. Do you suppose he uses pieces of these incinerated planes, taken from the evidence that disappeared into some FBI dungeon, as paper weights?

I'm getting a bit macabre here. Sorry. Couldn't help it. All kinds of bodies are turning up. See my riff on David Kelly (and Judith Miller and the panicked Bushites on AF-1 in July 2003) at

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1707056

Hint:

May 22, 2003: David Kelly, Brits chief WMD expert, starts whistleblowing to the BBC, on the Brits "sexed up" Iraq intel docs.

July 7, 2003: Kelly identified, interrogated, and Blair warned that Kelly knew something worse.

July 14, 2003: Plame outed.

July 18, 2003: Kelly found dead, under highly suspicious circumstances; his office and computers searched.

July 22, 2003: Second Plame outing, of the entire CIA WMD monitoring project, Brewster Jennings.

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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 10:55 PM
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3. Louise Slaughter's "thank you" message
Edited on Tue Aug-16-05 11:47 PM by paineinthearse
Thank You!

Your personal pink slip to Karl Rove will help us hold the President accountable. He made a promise to the American people that he'd fire whoever leaked the identity of Valerie Plame, an undercover CIA agent. Now that we know the leaker was, at least in part, Karl Rove; it is time for the President to keep his word.

Please use the form below to ask your friends to join our call and send their own personalized pink slip to Karl Rove. Together we can force the President's hand and bring Karl Rove to justice!

==================================

No, thank YOU, Rep. Slaughter!
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 12:59 AM
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5. I would be so glad to see those responsible be held responsible
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 01:08 AM
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6. I knew Rove would do something really good at some point. RECOMMEND
Edited on Wed Aug-17-05 01:08 AM by autorank
Well, lying to the FBI is not "really good" but the outcome of that, Prosecutor Fitzgerald and his Plame investigation, are really good. Thanks Karl, we needed that.

:kick:
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Autonomy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 01:32 AM
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7. Conyers kicks ass!
:kick:
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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 11:51 AM
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20. you got that right autonomy - welcome to the fun
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 05:20 AM
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9. Thank you very much Conyers.
You'd be shocked, SHOCKED, how often lawyers take up cases which have conflicts of interest, and there isn't anything a common person can do about it. Most of the time, they aren't even aware of it until after an unfortunate settlement is reached between the conflicting parties.

I hope Conyers has success driving this point, that Ashcroft should have recused himself the second Rove's name came up. Maybe it will trickle down.
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 05:57 AM
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10. Conyers is like the Energizer bunny.
He amazes me. He just keeps going and going.

:kick:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 07:53 AM
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12. i read that there are a total of 21 people involved but seems the
court goes up and up.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 09:34 AM
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13. You are correct - see...
21 Administration Officials Involved In Plame Leak
Topic started by paineinthearse on Aug-15-05 05:15 PM (18 replies)
Last modified by Peace Patriot on Aug-15-05 10:59 PM

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2011282&mesg_id=2014747
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 11:02 AM
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14. Breaking: Conyers & Hinchey's letter calling for investigation of Ashcroft
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 11:08 AM
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15. Show support for John Conyers - sign the "DU Activists for Conyers" pledge
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 11:10 AM
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16. What happenned to Asscrotch anyway?
Unlike most of the ex Chimpamaniacs, he's been strangely quiet.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 01:01 PM
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21. He's teaching at Regent University in VA
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Rambis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 11:15 AM
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17. If we are at war like the "president" says....
and Karl Rove committed treason by outting a CIA agent in a time of war then he should be hanged. This is war not a political game played by chicken hawks.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 11:20 AM
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18. Rove is hoping Cindy coverage will make his problems fade
Even if Bush pardons him, it'll only show more how corrupt this administration is!
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 04:36 PM
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23. Are you saying
Cindy is insincere, she is a Rove operative?
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Marnieworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 11:44 AM
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19. Thank you. Kick.
:bounce:
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